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After having this on cassette for many years I recently picked up the CD version on eBay. The cassette version had all the tracks in mono, including an edited intro to 'Saved'. The CD however had been remastered in 1991 and aside from the 'incorrect' spliced master of 'I want to be free' (you see, it's not a new phenomenon!) and a rather unimaginative fade in on 'Saved', I was surprised to hear a little count-in on the track 'Don't' which I don't recall hearing before. So for those of you have never heard it either, follow the link below...

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I have no idea if it's been tagged on from another song or whatever or indeed if it's appeared on anything else, but I'm sure one of you guys will know...
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Yup, that cd has the Don't count in. It has also a digital tape glitch on "Love Me". The recordings skips at one point in the middle of the song.


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Mike C wrote:Yup, that cd has the Don't count in. It has also a digital tape glitch on "Love Me". The recordings skips at one point in the middle of the song.
Indeed. Clocked that too...


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Yes, I bought this recently hoping it had the correct spliced version of I Want To Be Free. One of the few CDs that does have it is Essential Elvis.



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The LP and cassette versions have all tracks in mono; the CD has stereo tracks.



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Man I played the hell out of that CD when I got it :smt020




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Mike C wrote:Yup, that cd has the Don't count in.
is the count-in available elsewhere??



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sweetangeline wrote:
Mike C wrote:Yup, that cd has the Don't count in.
is the count-in available elsewhere??
Not on any other BMG Cd that I can think of. It may be on a import release.


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didn't had the cd version the first release of you're the boss (even shortly before collectors gold)?



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matilda wrote:didn't had the cd version the first release of you're the boss (even shortly before collectors gold)?
Quite possibly, both were released in 1991, I'm not sure which came first in the EU or the U.S., the US catalogue numbers suggests the Leiber & Stoller CD? The credits in the Collectors Gold box state 'Digitally Mastered at BMG Recording Studios, New York City, December 1990'. The Leiber & Stoller CD mentions 'Special Bonus Track : You're The Boss - A much requested and sought after collectible makes it's U.S. debut. This classic duet with Ann-Margret was recorded in July 1963 for the M.G.M motion picture Viva Las Vegas. A recent search of the RCA Records vault led to the discovery of the unreleased tape master.'

Edit : I just looked in Ernst Jorgenson book 'Elvis Presley : A Life In Music - The Complete Recording Sessions' and it seems in the U.S. , as the CD notes suggest, it made it's debut on the Leiber And Stoller CD April 1991, Collectors Gold then followed in August 1991.
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Great post, W.I.R.!
Can we see the back cover, please? :D


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When In Rome wrote:
matilda wrote:didn't had the cd version the first release of you're the boss (even shortly before collectors gold)?
Quite possibly, both were released in 1991, I'm not sure which came first in the EU or the U.S., the US catalogue numbers suggests the Leiber & Stoller CD? The credits in the Collectors Gold box state 'Digitally Mastered at BMG Recording Studios, New York City, December 1990'. The Leiber & Stoller CD mentions 'Special Bonus Track : You're The Boss - A much requested and sought after collectible makes it's U.S. debut. This classic duet with Ann-Margret was recorded in July 1963 for the M.G.M motion picture Viva Las Vegas. A recent search of the RCA Records vault led to the discovery of the unreleased tape master.'

Edit : I just looked in Ernst Jorgenson book 'Elvis Presley : A Life In Music - The Complete Recording Sessions' and it seems in the U.S. , as the CD notes suggest, it made it's debut on the Leiber And Stoller CD April 1991, Collectors Gold then followed in August 1991.
Ernst's book is correct. These are the only cds which have the first edit of "You're the Boss" which is take 16 and ending from take 3, as I recall. All other releases, including the VLV FTD, have just the full take 16. Indeed, the complete alternate take 3 actually made its initial debut on an Ann Margret RCA Greatest hits collection in 2001, as I recall.


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JimmyCool wrote:Great post, W.I.R.!
Can we see the back cover, please? :D
Forgive my crude scanning, but here you go...
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Looks good to me, thank you very much ;)


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I like best the version of You're The Boss that splices the end of take 3 onto take 16. Elvis and Ann ooze sexuality on that ending. To this day, it is only available on this Leiber/Stoller CD, correct?



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This one is a beauty from France (2004)

Elvis Chante Jerry Leiber And Mike Stoller

CD 1 (77 mins)
Hound Dog, Love Me, Hot Dog, Loving You, Jailhouse Rock, I Want To Be Free, Baby I Don't Care, Treat Me Nice, Don't (w/count-in), Santa Claus Is Back In Town, Trouble, King Creole, Steadfast, Loyal & True, Dirty, Dirty Feeling, Just Tell Her Jim Said Hello, She's Not You, Girls! Girls! Girls!, Bossa Nova Baby, You're The Boss, Little Egypt, Fools Fall In Love, Saved, If You Don't Come Back, Three Corn Patches, Jailhouse Rock (S 2001 #6), I Want To Be Free (S 2010 #11), Steadfast, Loyal & True (accappella).
Alternates: Loving You (KX #1), Loving You (HZ #1), Treat Me Nice (S 2003 #19), Treat Me Nice (2008 #6), I Want To Be Free (2009 #3,4), Loving You (HY #3), Loving You (HZ #6), King Creole (R #8, instrumental).

CD 2 (77 mins)
Loving You (20 secs live '69/ KX #5), Loving You (HZ #10), Jailhouse Rock (2001 #5), Jailhouse Rock (2002 overdub), Loving You (KX #8), Loving You (HZ #12), Treat Me Nice (2008 sp#10/13), Loving You (KX #13), Treat Me Nice (S 2008 sp#10/13 w/guitar OD), I Want To Be Free (2009 sp#10/12/13), Loving You (S KX #15), Treat Me Nice (S 2008 #12-13), I Want To Be Free (S 2009 #12), Baby I Don't Care (S 2015 #1), Loving You (KX #20,21), King Creole (E #3), King Creole (E #18), Steadfast, Loyal & True (M #6), Just Tell Her Jim Said Hello (#1), Just Tell Her Jim Said Hello (#4), She's Not You (#2sp), Girls! Girls! Girls! (PO1#15), Bossa Nova Baby (AO #2), You're The Boss (2011 #3), You're The Boss (2011 #16), Little Egypt (AO #21), If You Don't Come Back (#3), Three Corn Patches (#14), Little Egypt/Trouble (68 Special), Trouble (#21), Saved (#6).
Bonus tracks: Hound Dog (Freddie Bell & The Bellboys), Love Me (Willy & Ruth), Bossa Nova Baby (Tippie & The Clovers).

- See more at: http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/cd/cd_elvischante_released.shtml#sthash.xWYHN9wB.dpuf


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Bought this CD when it was first released. Haven't played it in years will have to give it a spin this week.



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stevelecher wrote:I like best the version of You're The Boss that splices the end of take 3 onto take 16. Elvis and Ann ooze sexuality on that ending. To this day, it is only available on this Leiber/Stoller CD, correct?
It is also available on 1991's Collector's Gold, CD1.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
stevelecher wrote:I like best the version of You're The Boss that splices the end of take 3 onto take 16. Elvis and Ann ooze sexuality on that ending. To this day, it is only available on this Leiber/Stoller CD, correct?
It is also available on 1991's Collector's Gold, CD1.
Yeah, you're right. I had thought Collector's Gold featured the complete take 16. This spliced take is very entertaining.

On another note, there are a few fans here that are really hung up about that spliced master take of I Want To Be Free. I'm all for getting it right, but the unspliced complete take isn't much of a downgrade. Like Don'tcha Think It's Time, I sometimes wonder why they didn't think the take was fine the way it was.



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Will have to look out for this CD. Thanks for the post.


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Addendum from my earlier post. Below is a question answer Ernst gave to the FECC site back in 1999:

"RCA celebrates his 100th anniversary with a serie of CD's. One is dedicated to Elvis, and another to Ann Margaret. On this last CD, we can find two versions of the duets with Elvis and Ann. The version of "The Lady Loves Me" has the indication "Take 9" (we know that the master take is 10). But, there is no indication for the song " You're the boss", and it is an alternate version. I would like to know what is the take number and why the takes are so clean and sound so good.
(From Germain Tremblay)

+++ I haven't heard the CD. The producer must have gotten back to the session reels, and without permission, just used the outtakes. The reason they sound so good, is that I recently acquired the original 3 track tapes of the two songs, and I'm very annoyed of this abuse. These should have come out on an Elvis CD, and not be used to force collectors into buying an Ann Margret CD they may not want. More information to follow."


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The sound quality of Viva Las Vegas tracks has GREATLY improved since Ernst obtained those original 3 track tapes.



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Mike C wrote:Addendum from my earlier post. Below is a question answer Ernst gave to the FECC site back in 1999:

"RCA celebrates his 100th anniversary with a serie of CD's. One is dedicated to Elvis, and another to Ann Margaret. On this last CD, we can find two versions of the duets with Elvis and Ann. The version of "The Lady Loves Me" has the indication "Take 9" (we know that the master take is 10). But, there is no indication for the song " You're the boss", and it is an alternate version. I would like to know what is the take number and why the takes are so clean and sound so good.
(From Germain Tremblay)

+++ I haven't heard the CD. The producer must have gotten back to the session reels, and without permission, just used the outtakes. The reason they sound so good, is that I recently acquired the original 3 track tapes of the two songs, and I'm very annoyed of this abuse. These should have come out on an Elvis CD, and not be used to force collectors into buying an Ann Margret CD they may not want. More information to follow."
I have that CD. I know we've since got those takes on the FTD now but here are the tracks in question from the Ann-Margret compilation, just for the heck of it...
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You're the Boss -
http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/84512782/file.html

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When In Rome wrote:
Mike C wrote:Addendum from my earlier post. Below is a question answer Ernst gave to the FECC site back in 1999:

"RCA celebrates his 100th anniversary with a serie of CD's. One is dedicated to Elvis, and another to Ann Margaret. On this last CD, we can find two versions of the duets with Elvis and Ann. The version of "The Lady Loves Me" has the indication "Take 9" (we know that the master take is 10). But, there is no indication for the song " You're the boss", and it is an alternate version. I would like to know what is the take number and why the takes are so clean and sound so good.
(From Germain Tremblay)

+++ I haven't heard the CD. The producer must have gotten back to the session reels, and without permission, just used the outtakes. The reason they sound so good, is that I recently acquired the original 3 track tapes of the two songs, and I'm very annoyed of this abuse. These should have come out on an Elvis CD, and not be used to force collectors into buying an Ann Margret CD they may not want. More information to follow."
I have that CD. I know we've since got those takes on the FTD now but here are the tracks in question from the Ann-Margret compilation, just for the heck of it...

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2001 CD The Very Best Of Ann Margret. 'May I take your wrap Missus?'


You're the Boss -
http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/84512782/file.html

The Lady Love Me -
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/18756691/file.html
They sound pretty good, don't they? The former is alternate take 9, the latter alternate take 3. IIRC, they both appear on FTD's Silver Screen Stereo, released in 2001.

It's a travesty "You're The Boss" was cut from the film, and the master takes of the above duets were not officially issued in 1964 as part of a soundtrack LP for "Viva Las Vegas." It would have been a chart-topper. Ultimately, one must call it what it was: management sabotage, and all in the name of maintaining "control" of the artist.


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When In Rome wrote:The CD however had (...) a rather unimaginative fade in on 'Saved'.
I made this edit of "Saved!" a few years ago:
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/47511018/file.html


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