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Always thought that the original came from Big Maybelle in 1955:

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Source: http://davidneale.eu/elvis/originals/list10.html#S1562


Now someone just posted this March 1955 version of Roy Hall on YouTube, claiming this is the original version for Roy being one of the writers under pseudonym "Sunny David".

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Hall was born in Big Stone Gap, Virginia in 1922. Although he is often stated to have learned the piano from a local blues player who also turned Hall into a drunkard by his early teens, he was actually first introduced to the instrument by his mother. Hall cited Piano Red as his primary influence in his playing style. After performing in his home town, Hall accompanied Uncle Dave Macon in 1933 in a traveling broadcast for the Grand Ole Opry.

While working for a sibling group called the Hall Brothers, the third brother, Roy Hall, died in a car accident in 1943.[2] Hall adopted the brother's name for his stage moniker, and formed his own band, the Cohutta Mountain Boys. It was a five-piece band, with Tommy Odum (lead guitar), Bud White (rhythm guitar), Flash Griner (bass guitar), and Frankie Brumbalough (fiddle).[3] In 1949, the band cut their first record, which included a hillbilly boogie-woogie song called "Dirty Boogie", with two different B-sides released on the independent record label, Fortune Records, in Detroit, Michigan.[4][1] The single became a jukebox favorite in the Midwest; however, its followups, which delved more into traditional country music, failed to match the initial success produced by "Dirty Boogie".[5] The Cohutta Mountain Boys' popularity earned them, briefly, a supporting role for singer Tennessee Ernie Ford in Nashville. Afterwards, the band continued a journeymen existence, eventually returning to Detroit where Hall assembled a new group, the Eagles, and recorded material for Citation Records.

However, the group could not sustain itself, and in 1950 Hall moved to Nashville to record two solo singles for Bullet Records and another for Tennessee Records in 1951; the releases were commercially unsuccessful. He then opened a music and gambling club called the Music Box, later renamed the Musicians' Hideaway, where he was a regular performer. Hall claimed that Elvis Presley performed there one night in 1954, but Hall fired him because "he weren't no damn good." He also claimed that, in the same year, Jerry Lee Lewis played there for several weeks.
Between 1954 and 1955, Hall recorded with Webb Pierce, Marty Robbins, and Hawkshaw Hawkins. In 1954, Hall met black musician Dave "Curlee" Williams and while on vacation in the Everglades Hall co-wrote, under the pseudonym "Sunny David", the song "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On".

Interesting: Hall then opened a music and gambling club called the Music Box, later renamed the Musicians' Hideaway, where he was a regular performer. Hall claimed that Elvis Presley performed there one night in 1954, but Hall fired him because "he weren't no damn good." He also claimed that, in the same year, Jerry Lee Lewis played there for several weeks.


So from now on I assume this version by Roy Hall is the original version.


Other versions.

Eddie Cochran, 1957
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Cliff Richard, 1958
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Little Richard, 1964
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Jerry Lee Lewis & Tom Jones
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Elvis, 1970
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Wasn't a big fan of this until that unedited version from 'A Hundred Years From Now' (1996). It wasn't until later that I got the 'Whole lotta Shakin' boot CD released a year earlier.

Love that scat singing after the original master was edited and that note around the 4 min mark.

Fade it out man.

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jetblack wrote:Wasn't a big fan of this until that unedited version from 'A Hundred Years From Now' (1996).
Exactly the same counts for me!


Just came across this version by the Ozark Jubilee Boys, 1959:
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I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns


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Recorded in 1955:

21-03-55 - Big Maybelle (Okeh 7060) = original version;
15-09-55 - Roy Hall (Decca 29697); (matrix number can't be from march 1955)
00-10-55 - Dolores Fredericks (Decca 29716);
00-11-55 - The Commodores (Dot 15439).


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jetblack wrote:Wasn't a big fan of this until that unedited version from 'A Hundred Years From Now' (1996). It wasn't until later that I got the 'Whole lotta Shakin' boot CD released a year earlier.

Love that scat singing after the original master was edited and that note around the 4 min mark.

Fade it out man.

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I have to agree. While no doubt someone will chime in here uttering the words "drugs" and "high" before very long, and that might have played a factor, but it doesn't matter at all. Here is Elvis, no matter what his mood or the circumstances, taking someone else's signature song, completely reinventing it, and then getting completely lost in the moment at the same time. The unedited master is a wonderful way to spend five minutes, and I don't give a damn why or how it happened!




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poormadpeter2 wrote:
jetblack wrote:Wasn't a big fan of this until that unedited version from 'A Hundred Years From Now' (1996). It wasn't until later that I got the 'Whole lotta Shakin' boot CD released a year earlier.

Love that scat singing after the original master was edited and that note around the 4 min mark.

Fade it out man.

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I have to agree. While no doubt someone will chime in here uttering the words "drugs" and "high" before very long, and that might have played a factor, but it doesn't matter at all. Here is Elvis, no matter what his mood or the circumstances, taking someone else's signature song, completely reinventing it, and then getting completely lost in the moment at the same time. The unedited master is a wonderful way to spend five minutes, and I don't give a damn why or how it happened!
I was going to write something along those lines as well. I liked Elvis' version before I even knew who Ernst Jorgensen was, or a book about recording sessions. That goes for every pop/rock record in my collection from any act. Thanks MikeFromHolland for the thread!



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colonel snow wrote:Recorded in 1955:

21-03-55 - Big Maybelle (Okeh 7060) = original version;
15-09-55 - Roy Hall (Decca 29697); (matrix number can't be from march 1955)
00-10-55 - Dolores Fredericks (Decca 29716);
00-11-55 - The Commodores (Dot 15439).


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Thank you. So Big Maybelle's version IS the original. :smt023


00-10-55 - Dolores Fredericks (Decca 29716)
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More versions by release date:

Jerry Lee Lewis May 27, 1957
Ricky Nelson October 1957
The Tunettes October 1957
Johnny O'Keefe and The Dee Jays December 1957
Jimmy Breedlove March 1958
Carl Perkins November 1958
Bill Haley and His Comets April 1960
Chubby Checker October 1960

Conway Twitty, Released October 1960:
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Duffy Power, Released November 1960
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Vince Taylor et ses play-boys December 1961
Johnny Hallyday April 1962
Royale Monarchs featuring Roger Stafford September 1962
Mickey Gilley 1962
Don Lang & The Twisters 1962
Col Joye & The Joy Boys 1963
Sherree Scott and her Melody Rockers with The Thompson Sisters 1963
Wanda Jackson March 1964
Johnny Rivers September 1964
The Weedons September 1964
The Rocking Ghosts November 1964
Johnny Devlin 1964
The Hep Stars December 1965
The Tremolons 1965
Gerry and The Pacemakers 1965
Jerry Jaye May 1967
Mitch Ryder November 1967
The Boston Show Band 1968
Warren Phillips & The Rockets 1969
Doug Ashdown 1969
Wild Angels 1970
Vinegar Joe December 1972
Mae West 1972
Little Gerhard 1972
Billy Crash Craddock September 1973
Coloured Balls December 1973
Sha Na Na 1973
Bob Mitchell Orchestra 1973
Mountain July 1974
Rock House 1974
Burt Blanca & The King Creoles 1974
New Jordal Swingers 1974
Lee Hazlewood 1976
Sonny Burgess 1976 (medley with Mean Woman Blues)
Rohdes Rockers 1976
Renée 1978
Janne Lucas 1978
Big Star 1978
' Slasher 1979
Gene Vincent 1982
Flamingokvintetten 1982
Jannicke 1982
The Flying Lizards 1984
Elton John 1985
Modern Jazz 1986
Georgia Satellites 1988
Billy Field 1989
Micke Muster 1989
Mollie O'Brien 1990
Linda Gail Lewis October 1991
The Rockabilly's 1994
Siren & Kevin Coyne 1994
Pamela April 1995
Jerry Lee Lewis with Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band 1996
John Lennon's Original Quarrymen 1997
The Jive Giants April 8, 1998
Alan Clark featuring The Kelly Four & Special Guests May 1998
Andy Lee Lang and The Spirit 1999
Sébi Lee 2000
Ross Wilson 2001
Linda Gail Lewis & The Firebirds 2001
Ricky Norton 2002
Tom Green 2003
Linda Gail Lewis & The Rockarounds 2004
Rock Nalle & The Yankees 2004
The P-Funk Allstars feat. Bobby Womack September 26, 2005
Dreadnaught 2005
Four Vegas 2008
The John Moore Rock and Roll Trio featuring The Loose Moorelles March 2010
Hasse Andersson 2010
Ray Ellis [1] 2012
Heartbeat 2013
Stella Parton July 1, 2015

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LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.


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And we're off!




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poormadpeter2 wrote:And we're off!
Again with your unprovoked harassing behavior. Respond to the post if you have something worth adding. If not give Padre a spin.


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fn2drive wrote:
LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.
He was a few years ahead of Phil Spector's horns with Lennon's rock and roll album. But thankfully (for Elvis) the experiment with the horns was not released on that one song. On the other hand, Lennon's was with a whole album full!... :lol:




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fn2drive wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:And we're off!
Again with your unprovoked harassing behavior. Respond to the post if you have something worth adding. If not give Padre a spin.
Why would I want to give Padre a spin? Have you ever, in all your time writing such ridiculous comments, bothered to even look up what my views are on these songs you keep spouting off about?




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poormadpeter2 wrote:
fn2drive wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:And we're off!
Again with your unprovoked harassing behavior. Respond to the post if you have something worth adding. If not give Padre a spin.
Why would I want to give Padre a spin? Have you ever, in all your time writing such ridiculous comments, bothered to even look up what my views are on these songs you keep spouting off about?
He's foaming at the mouth with all that senseless drivel.


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.."take it out Jerry, take it out..." (Jerry Carrigan).(The undubbed unedited master) I've always like Elvis' version of this song since I first heard it on that famous album. I'm not too keen on the horns version though. :smt020


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fn2drive wrote:
LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.
Spot-on! Elvis' version is good without Feltons blaring horns and fa rting trombones - it also shows how Elvis first envisioned the song before it was killed by Jarvis.

Anyway, the song belongs to Jerry Lee Lewis, thats the real version.




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Davelee wrote:
fn2drive wrote:
LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.
Spot-on! Elvis' version is good without Feltons blaring horns and fa rting trombones - it also shows how Elvis first envisioned the song before it was killed by Jarvis.

Anyway, the song belongs to Jerry Lee Lewis, thats the real version.
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smuling wrote:
Davelee wrote:
fn2drive wrote:
LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.
Spot-on! Elvis' version is good without Feltons blaring horns and fa rting trombones - it also shows how Elvis first envisioned the song before it was killed by Jarvis.

Anyway, the song belongs to Jerry Lee Lewis, thats the real version.
Jerry lee lewis is the best:
While no doubt this is JLL's for all of time, i,give Elvis a huge amount of credit for a cover that makes you forget or at least suspend that knowledge while listening. Indeed it hardly sounds like the same song. I was never quite sure why Elvis covered but he does make it his own. This has always been a 70s highlight more so with EE Vol 4 extened version. The session chatter sadly reveals both the good side of Elvis ( laying what he likes) and Elvis at his worst as a person.


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Davelee wrote:
fn2drive wrote:
LSP-4445 wrote:I like it as long as I dont have to hear the awful version with the horns
That was Felton Jarvis big moment. His communion with his star. They were so in touch that he just knew that Elvis would fall in love with those big beautiful horns. So what if the star was explicit in exactly the sound he wanted at the session. No, Felton, being the world class producer that he was surely knew better. The true tragedy is we had to wait 20+ years to see the genius that was Jarvis and how little Elvis knew about how things should sound. Give me those horns and play them loud-truly inspired. Felton Jarvis was a one of a kind.
Spot-on! Elvis' version is good without Feltons blaring horns and fa rting trombones - it also shows how Elvis first envisioned the song before it was killed by Jarvis.

Anyway, the song belongs to Jerry Lee Lewis, thats the real version.
Bologna. For all we know Elvis was curious of how it would sound with horns. Anyway and most importantly, it never came out until decades after the fact. The album came out great.



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Probably the worst recording Elvis ever put to tape aside from the Frankie and Johnnie Soundtrack.



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promiseland wrote:Probably the worst recording Elvis ever put to tape aside from the Frankie and Johnnie Soundtrack.
Indeed. It's not even a shadow of what c.o.n.f.i.d.ence was.

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Jerry Lee owns this song... nuff said.

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elvis-fan wrote:Jerry Lee owns this song... nuff said.

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I far prefer Elvis' version, it sounds far more contemporary, involved and energetic than the dated boogie-woogie piano accompaniment and the careful, unhurried vocals of JLL's version.

I also like the horn overdubs version too, as well as without them.




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I like Elvis' version and what he does with it, but really, this is one of the greatest recordings of all time by Jerry Lee Lewis. Only those who see Elvis' name on the record label will say his version is better because his name is on the record label. There is no way in the universe Elvis betters Jerry Lee on this one and no way anyone else does either. its one of rock and rolls most revered classics despite Jerry's 'careful and unhurried' vocals. Just when I think Ive heard everything here, I still get amazed.



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r&b wrote:I like Elvis' version and what he does with it, but really, this is one of the greatest recordings of all time by Jerry Lee Lewis. Only those who see Elvis' name on the record label will say his version is better because his name is on the record label. There is no way in the universe Elvis betters Jerry Lee on this one and no way anyone else does either. its one of rock and rolls most revered classics despite Jerry's 'careful and unhurried' vocals. Just when I think Ive heard everything here, I still get amazed.
It seems you have made no progress in appreciating the subjectivity of music nor in accepting another persons personal tastes and preferences since the last time I bothered to read one of your comments.

Yeah, his name on the label, that explains it (to you, anyway) :facep: