The Jailhouse Rock Sessions

[davide]

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[53310761]

Fantastic, thanks for this!

[keninlincs]

A great post,very interesting,thanks

[Elton]

Nicely done davide!

[claude 91]

davide beautiful thank you

[Little Darlin]

Thanks for another brilliant topic davide.

[JamesVRoy]

Cool. There's a couple of nice ones there I hadn't seen and a couple uncropped versions of stuff I had. I think a couple are from Ger's book Inside Jailhouse Rock too.

heres a page on radio recorders http://scottymoore.net/studio_radiorecorders.html

[jean mary]

Fantastic post ......thank you!

[california boy]

Wow !!!
Love it
Thank you Davide, as always you are doin a great job, lots of details and lots of photos
One of my favorites topics: Photos and information from Recording sessions to see the recordings in "real time"
Hope to see some day another post like this for ACAPULCO \ ROUSTABOUT \ GIRL HAPPY SESSIONS
Cant recall any pictures from those 3 recording sessions, would love to see them
Have a great week
Sincerely
Lior

[drjohncarpenter]

Tremendous and enjoyable posting! Thank you.

Note: in the two photos where you are unsure if it is Gordon Stoker, the first is definitely Gordon, the second is not.

In fact, that second image may well depict MGM musical supervisor Jeff Alexander.

[E-Cat]

May 1st or May 3rd 1957

Notice Elvis is wearing black shoes in this image and white/black ones in the other's.
This has caused the dates to be inconclusive at this stage.

Another great post Davide, but Elvis is not wearing black shoes as you assumed.
The cropped picture only show the top of the shoes but the less cropped picture
below shows that he was wearing the same white/black shoes.....

apologies for the bad quality

[davide]

Thanks E-Cat for that,I will change the dates.

JamesVRoy, thanks for the extra info on Radio Recorders - Would you know which studio is which by any chance? The photo you have with the caption "Studio B control room during an André Previn session in the '60s" looks like the studio Elvis used on April 30th 1957 which would be at 7000 Santa Monica Blvd?
The tape legend for the 3rd May has the same studio marked as the April 30th session (reproduced page 143 of Flashback FTD book)
Any thoughts ?

drjohncarpenter,thanks for the photo info.

thanks again
Davide

[E-Cat]

May 1st or May 3rd 1957.

Dudley Brooks at the piano,Hugh Jarrett ,same unknown sat at the drum kit,
Bill Black,Elvis holding electric bass and Scotty Moore on guitar,unknown
lower right of frame.

Strange enough, EJ's book (A Life in Music) mentions that the picture is from
May 5th. This date must be a mistake - there was no session that day.

[Barbie]

Wow - thanx - what a great posting - a few shots there I've never seen before!! It's always so great to see Elvis in the studio .. I really hope we get to see more exclusive photos from his recording sessions.......it was great seeing more session photos in Elvis Sessions III.............

[Little Darlin]

BUMP

[JamesVRoy]

Thanks E-Cat for that,I will change the dates.

JamesVRoy, thanks for the extra info on Radio Recorders - Would you know which studio is which by any chance? The photo you have with the caption "Studio B control room during an André Previn session in the '60s" looks like the studio Elvis used on April 30th 1957 which would be at 7000 Santa Monica Blvd?
The tape legend for the 3rd May has the same studio marked as the April 30th session (reproduced page 143 of Flashback FTD book)
Any thoughts ?

drjohncarpenter,thanks for the photo info.

thanks again
Davide

Yes, all the studios at Radio Recorders at the time were at 7000 Santa monica Blvd when Elvis recorded in the 50s. The caption for the Andre Previn photo I beleive came with the photo from the company, Digital Excellence which if I remember correctly was the company that eventaully owned the business. They told me that was at the Santa Monica Blvd address too. There were 3 rooms there and I don't remember sure which ones were which from the photos from when I did the page. I could never really get a feel either how they were laid out looking at the the diagrams. Bob Moore identified one for me back then, I think the one where Elvis has the bass, but he didn't record with them there till the 60s



This is only speculation, but for simplification, let's call the wall to Elvis left the North wall and we're looking towards the NE corner.



this would be looking NW along the north wall.


given the orientation of the piano if it hadn't been moved this would be looking towards the SE corner


this would be roughly facing the south wall


to be honest though, I'm not even sure these are the same rooms. Most of the mics in the earlier ones are RCAs and the ones in the later look like Nuemans. What I called the south wall should be about where the control room should be.
Is it possible that these pix with Elvis playing the Fender bass are from the September session at Radio Recorders? We've all heard the story about Elvis playing bass on Baby I Don't Care but it bugs me that Bill didn't get one of those until August of 57

[davide]

Found a slightly less cropped version of the this shot,from Fans star library no 2

Also the songs originally submitted for the Soundtrack - from a letter on 'Elvis Presley Music,Inc' dated March 30th 1957,from Jean Aberbach to Colonel Parker.

Tepper - Bennett : Quarters,Nickles,and Dimes
Young Hearts
One More Day





Leiber and Stoller : Jailhouse Rock
Sands Of Time
Treat Me Nice
I Want To Be Free
Yeah,Yeah,Yeah

Bernie Weisman : Lonesome Blue

Aaron Schroder and Josephine Peoples : That Ain't Right

Rosemarie McCoy and Kelly Owens : Don't Be Araid


Additional information:
Quarters,Nickles,and Dimes (First Registration Number / Date EU0000475437 / 1957-04-19 ) 19th April 1957
Young Hearts (First Registration Number / Date: EP0000110933 / 1957-07-26) 26th of July 1957


Davide

[jon_burrows]

Another great post davide, thank you very much.

[PStoller]

songs originally submitted for the Soundtrack - from a letter on 'Elvis Presley Music, Inc' dated March 30th 1957,from Jean Aberbach to Colonel Parker.

Leiber and Stoller : Jailhouse Rock
Sands Of Time
Treat Me Nice
I Want To Be Free
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

FYI:

"Sands of Time" is sufficiently obscure that I've never heard it; nobody has ever recorded it for release. The good news is, there is an acetate of a demo; the bad news is, the song was significantly rewritten after that acetate was recorded, so what's on it is not what Elvis heard. That later version seems to have been lost in, uh, the sands of time.

"Yeah, Yeah, Yeah" is an R&B number that was cut by Joe Liggins in 1954. Amongst other places, you can find it on Ace's The Leiber & Stoller Story, Vol. 1: Hard Times—The Los Angeles Years 1951-56.

Conspicuously absent from this list is "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care."

[midnightx]

songs originally submitted for the Soundtrack - from a letter on 'Elvis Presley Music, Inc' dated March 30th 1957,from Jean Aberbach to Colonel Parker.

Leiber and Stoller : Jailhouse Rock
Sands Of Time
Treat Me Nice
I Want To Be Free
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

FYI:

"Sands of Time" is sufficiently obscure that I've never heard it; nobody has ever recorded it for release. The good news is, there is an acetate of a demo; the bad news is, the song was significantly rewritten after that acetate was recorded, so what's on it is not what Elvis heard. That later version seems to have been lost in, uh, the sands of time.

"Yeah, Yeah, Yeah" is an R&B number that was cut by Joe Liggins in 1954. Amongst other places, you can find it on Ace's The Leiber & Stoller Story, Vol. 1: Hard Times—The Los Angeles Years 1951-56.

Conspicuously absent from this list is "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care."

PStoller, thank you. Always love seeing your awesome contributions!

[drjohncarpenter]

songs originally submitted for the Soundtrack - from a letter on 'Elvis Presley Music, Inc' dated March 30th 1957,from Jean Aberbach to Colonel Parker.

Leiber and Stoller : Jailhouse Rock
Sands Of Time
Treat Me Nice
I Want To Be Free
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

FYI:

"Sands of Time" is sufficiently obscure that I've never heard it; nobody has ever recorded it for release. The good news is, there is an acetate of a demo; the bad news is, the song was significantly rewritten after that acetate was recorded, so what's on it is not what Elvis heard. That later version seems to have been lost in, uh, the sands of time.

"Yeah, Yeah, Yeah" is an R&B number that was cut by Joe Liggins in 1954. Amongst other places, you can find it on Ace's The Leiber & Stoller Story, Vol. 1: Hard Times—The Los Angeles Years 1951-56.

Conspicuously absent from this list is "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care."

PStoller, thank you. Always love seeing your awesome contributions!

Agreed!

It is possible "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care" was a late add to the mix. Wish we knew for sure. It's neat to remember that it is Elvis playing the quarter notes on Bill Black's Fender Bass, after Black left the studio. Apparently, the final mix includes an acoustic bass doubling Elvis' work on the master take -- perhaps Bill made up for his impulsive retreat.

The CD Peter mentions is by Ace (UK) and is a great compilation:



The Leiber & Stoller Story, Vol. 1: Hard Times -- The Los Angeles Years 1951-56
http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=421

Among others, it has Freddie Bell's "Hound Dog" and Young Jessie's "Hot Dog." Woof!

[JamesVRoy]

Thanks E-Cat for that,I will change the dates.

JamesVRoy, thanks for the extra info on Radio Recorders - Would you know which studio is which by any chance? The photo you have with the caption "Studio B control room during an André Previn session in the '60s" looks like the studio Elvis used on April 30th 1957 which would be at 7000 Santa Monica Blvd?
The tape legend for the 3rd May has the same studio marked as the April 30th session (reproduced page 143 of Flashback FTD book)
Any thoughts ?

drjohncarpenter,thanks for the photo info.

thanks again
Davide

Yes, all the studios at Radio Recorders at the time were at 7000 Santa monica Blvd when Elvis recorded in the 50s. The caption for the Andre Previn photo I beleive came with the photo from the company, Digital Excellence which if I remember correctly was the company that eventaully owned the business. They told me that was at the Santa Monica Blvd address too. There were 3 rooms there and I don't remember sure which ones were which from the photos from when I did the page. I could never really get a feel either how they were laid out looking at the the diagrams. Bob Moore identified one for me back then, I think the one where Elvis has the bass, but he didn't record with them there till the 60s



This is only speculation, but for simplification, let's call the wall to Elvis left the North wall and we're looking towards the NE corner.



this would be looking NW along the north wall.


given the orientation of the piano if it hadn't been moved this would be looking towards the SE corner


this would be roughly facing the south wall


to be honest though, I'm not even sure these are the same rooms. Most of the mics in the earlier ones are RCAs and the ones in the later look like Nuemans. What I called the south wall should be about where the control room should be.
Is it possible that these pix with Elvis playing the Fender bass are from the September session at Radio Recorders? We've all heard the story about Elvis playing bass on Baby I Don't Care but it bugs me that Bill didn't get one of those until August of 57

Hi Davide, After looking at these again I don't believe the ones with Elvis with the P-bass are from Radio Recorders, at least not the same studio as the others. You may be right in that they could be from the MGM soundstage. The ones that show the drumset are clearly in a different orientation then the others against the wall.

[drjohncarpenter]

***Elvis's group consisted of George Klein,Arthur Hooton,Gene Smith,Lamar Fike,Junior Smith and Cliff Gleaves.My feeling is thats most likely Cliff Gleaves.

Of that group, the build most closely matches that of Arthur Hooten.

Here's a screen grab from "Jailhouse Rock" with Hooten:




L-R: Mike Stoller, Steve Warren, Scotty Moore, Katherine Warren, Arthur Tovey, Arthur Hooten and Gene Smith

[davide]

***Elvis's group consisted of George Klein,Arthur Hooton,Gene Smith,Lamar Fike,Junior Smith and Cliff Gleaves.My feeling is thats most likely Cliff Gleaves.

Of that group, the build most closely matches that of Arthur Hooten.

Yes,I agree it does look Arthur Hooten,will change caption - thanks

Davide

[JamesVRoy]

***Elvis's group consisted of George Klein,Arthur Hooton,Gene Smith,Lamar Fike,Junior Smith and Cliff Gleaves.My feeling is thats most likely Cliff Gleaves.

Of that group, the build most closely matches that of Arthur Hooten.

Here's a still from "Jailhouse Rock" with Hooten:




L-R: Mike Stoller, Steve Warren, Scotty Moore, Katherine Warren, Arthur Tovey, Arthur Hooten and Gene Smith

That's not a still, that's a frame I captured from the movie
http://www.pbase.com/jroy/jrock
Thanks for the other names