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Elvis charity performance in England?

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New for my eyes and posted on Elvis Videos, Interviews & Documentaries fb.
Looks likes 1962. Date and place? :?

It´s possible some connection with the USA giant 43 city tour "The Biggest Tour Ever" planned by Colonel Parker on 1962?
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javierTCB wrote:New for my eyes and posted on Elvis Videos, Interviews & Documentaries fb.
Looks likes 1962. Date and place? :?

It´s possible some connection with the USA giant 43 city tour "The Biggest Tour Ever" planned by Colonel Parker on 1962?
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I'm pretty sure this was taken when Elvis was filming "Kid Galahad," circa October 1961.

U.K. impresario Vic Lewis and his partner in William-Victor Productions, Manchester promoter Bill Benny, came over to solicit Elvis for a charity show. The entire "agreement" was detailed in the 11-01-1961 issue of Melody Maker.

Clearly, history proves Presley management had no true desire to fulfill this agenda, and it never happened. Parker probably told them his "bad back" required the show be postponed.

http://www.elvistoday.com/index.php/news-clippings8/4019-elvis-for-britain-okays-genuine-charity-concert.html


Sadly, Benny died about two years later, in October 1963 at the age of 44:
https://books.google.com/books?id=UgsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=RA1-PA36
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Many thanks Doc for your in-put :D


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The 43 city tour of Elvis in 1962 was only a manipulative move of the Colonel. He wanted 1 million dollars for this. When RCA made a counteroffer with 500.000 dollars for ONLY 11 city tour, Parker refused. So, The Colonel snowed Elvis and RCA once again, and the only result was that Elvis never went on tour for 13 years (1957-1970). This speaks volumes and maybe the fans of the Colonel who still believe he is the greatest manager of all time will abandon their color rose glasses.



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Elvis himself thought that he was going to make eight personal appearences in Seattle.
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The fool wrote:Elvis himself thought that he was going to make eight personal appearences in Seattle.
Thanks The Fool. This is new for me :D


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The fool wrote:Elvis himself thought that he was going to make eight personal appearences in Seattle.
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Actually, Elvis says he "hopes" to be doing those shows "this spring." At the time he spoke to Gloria Winters of 16 magazine, circa October-November 1961, playing Seattle was one of the possible concert plans.

The "Century 21 Exposition" world's fair held in Seattle ran from April 21 to October 21, 1962. However, by the spring, Elvis was doing a film for Paramount and was in Hawaii that April. The next plan was for a U.S. tour in the fall, after completing his MGM film project in October. But that fell through as well, when RCA refused to underwrite the tour. And then Elvis went into the wilderness for the next six years.
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Thanks, Doc. Elvis had 2 month and a half off (from middle June to late August 1962) so it was a lot of time for touring. But the Colonel was not interested, that's all. 1962 was the only year in the 1960-1968 period when Elvis made only 2 movies, after all.



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A tour would've been the idea situation!

After watching Girls! Girls! Girls! a lot more fans began questioning what Elvis was doing on screen and how it was moving in the opposite direction of becoming a serious actor.

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Here's U.K. promoter Bill Benny's obit in Billboard, always meant to add it to this topic.

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At least he managed to get one American "King" across the pond . . .
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jurasic1968 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:48 pm
The 43 city tour of Elvis in 1962 was only a manipulative move of the Colonel. He wanted 1 million dollars for this. When RCA made a counteroffer with 500.000 dollars for ONLY 11 city tour, Parker refused. So, The Colonel snowed Elvis and RCA once again, and the only result was that Elvis never went on tour for 13 years (1957-1970). This speaks volumes and maybe the fans of the Colonel who still believe he is the greatest manager of all time will abandon their color rose glasses.
Parker prevented everything and manipulated Elvis until the end.



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How on earth Elvis agreed to not do live appearances for such a long time, and instead worked in these kind of films one after another, arouses serious incredulity. No matter how much one reads and does post facto analysis and explains away things with logic and all, it just remains unbelievable.

He had to have known that Brando dream was over. Whatever lethargy he was going through, that phase hurt him in long term. What a horrible horrible waste of such a talent.




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Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:53 am
How on earth Elvis agreed to not do live appearances for such a long time, and instead worked in these kind of films one after another, arouses serious incredulity. No matter how much one reads and does post facto analysis and explains away things with logic and all, it just remains unbelievable.

He had to have known that Brando dream was over. Whatever lethargy he was going through, that phase hurt him in long term. What a horrible horrible waste of such a talent.
Elvis looked his best in the 1960s. He could have performed concerts all over the world.



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Sarita wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 8:59 am
Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:53 am
How on earth Elvis agreed to not do live appearances for such a long time, and instead worked in these kind of films one after another, arouses serious incredulity. No matter how much one reads and does post facto analysis and explains away things with logic and all, it just remains unbelievable.

He had to have known that Brando dream was over. Whatever lethargy he was going through, that phase hurt him in long term. What a horrible horrible waste of such a talent.
Elvis looked his best in the 1960s. He could have performed concerts all over the world.
Elvis was a supernaturally good looking man pretty much his entire life. In fact around 64-67 his style was the weakest what with helmet hair and bad make up. I also think he lost his sex appeal during his 60s movie years in those inane roles.

But point is not his looks but his performing abilities. Elvis was just 28 in 1963. This was not a time to spend on bad films and mediocre music and no live performances.



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That's the way it was.



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Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:11 pm
Sarita wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 8:59 am
Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:53 am
How on earth Elvis agreed to not do live appearances for such a long time, and instead worked in these kind of films one after another, arouses serious incredulity. No matter how much one reads and does post facto analysis and explains away things with logic and all, it just remains unbelievable.

He had to have known that Brando dream was over. Whatever lethargy he was going through, that phase hurt him in long term. What a horrible horrible waste of such a talent.
Elvis looked his best in the 1960s. He could have performed concerts all over the world.
Elvis was a supernaturally good looking man pretty much his entire life. In fact around 64-67 his style was the weakest what with helmet hair and bad make up. I also think he lost his sex appeal during his 60s movie years in those inane roles.

But point is not his looks but his performing abilities. Elvis was just 28 in 1963. This was not a time to spend on bad films and mediocre music and no live performances.
Elvis could have done a European and world tour. His success would have been the same as the Beatles' in the US. But Parker wanted to prevent it.



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Sarita wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:05 pm
Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:11 pm
Sarita wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 8:59 am
Igotstung wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:53 am
How on earth Elvis agreed to not do live appearances for such a long time, and instead worked in these kind of films one after another, arouses serious incredulity. No matter how much one reads and does post facto analysis and explains away things with logic and all, it just remains unbelievable.

He had to have known that Brando dream was over. Whatever lethargy he was going through, that phase hurt him in long term. What a horrible horrible waste of such a talent.
Elvis looked his best in the 1960s. He could have performed concerts all over the world.
Elvis was a supernaturally good looking man pretty much his entire life. In fact around 64-67 his style was the weakest what with helmet hair and bad make up. I also think he lost his sex appeal during his 60s movie years in those inane roles.

But point is not his looks but his performing abilities. Elvis was just 28 in 1963. This was not a time to spend on bad films and mediocre music and no live performances.
Elvis could have done a European and world tour. His success would have been the same as the Beatles' in the US. But Parker wanted to prevent it.
Parker was all about counting pennies. Movies were more profitable in short term what with guaranteed salary, profit sharing by keeping costs low and accompanying soundtracks sold on the back of the movie & vice versa.

Elvis- be it his personality, his insecurities, his co- dependence issues- went ahead with the plan. Squandered his monsterous talent on crap movies and crappier music.



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And Elvis didn't have the courage to separate from Parker.



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The article below, from New Musical Express, is probably worth adding here. This was in regards to an invitation for Elvis to perform at the Royal Variety Show in London on October 29th, 1962, which (contrary to the article) was actually after his commitments to It Happened at the World's Fair (Take Me to the Fair) had been completed. Elvis, in fact, was back in Memphis on that date, with conversations concerning the proposed forty-three city tour happening around this time between Tom Parker and RCA.

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Elvis had previously been invited to an earlier Royal Command Performance in 1960, although this was also turned down. I'm not aware of a third invitation being made.
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Wouldn't Elvis also be invited to the Royal Albert Hall?



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Sarita wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:40 pm
Wouldn't Elvis also be invited to the Royal Albert Hall?
That would be up to Elvis's management and the management of the Royal Albert Hall in conjunction with tour promoters. It was and is a very popular concert venue, and a prestigious venue. It doesn't have a large capacity (typically around 5000 seats), but it would have been ideal for Elvis, in my opinion. It isn't invitation only. It's a venue that hosts all sorts of artists and events.

Dusty Springfield at the Royal Albert Hall in 1979.

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Led Zeppelin at the Royal Albert Hall in 1970.

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Robbie Williams at the Royal Albert Hall in 2001.

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Right, Greystoke. Thanks for the videos.



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jurasic1968 wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:05 am
Right, Greystoke. Thanks for the videos.
It was also a favourite venue for Frank Sinatra over the years.

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Thank you