Fun In Acapulco?

[mick967]

Watch the derailment . . .

I see what you did there. Not bad....

[Jaime1234]

All of this about derailmment, and ignoring reminds me of a film Martin Sheen, who is a huge Elvis fan, made back in 2015.

[drjohncarpenter]

Watch the derailment . . .

Here's my solution...

https://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/download/file.php?id=166859

You've made seven (7) visits to this topic, and the best you can do is a post making fun of someone else.

My posts answered the OP's question, and later paid tribute to a member who also contributed all the time, and died last year.

Maybe a better solution would be to stop acting like a wopper.

[Jaime1234]

Here is the only KNOWN photo of the person who was hired to play Elvis double in "Fun in Acapulco", appearing mostly from a distance and during the scenes shot in Acapulco. To this day, his name is unknown to me and I suspect, it may also be unknown to anyone in this forum.

https://scontent.fmga3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13958206_1169670113074266_1087347937406607646_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=2sx3C-2ZOJ0AX-5RmT0&_nc_ht=scontent.fmga3-2.fna&oh=00_AfBpLxbBfMFUVvSUS6uzzGGekp1hqcU1aWoaTQ00Rp41Yg&oe=64B6F57A

[drjohncarpenter]

Here is the only KNOWN photo of the person who was hired to play Elvis double in "Fun in Acapulco", appearing mostly from a distance and during the scenes shot in Acapulco. To this day, his name is unknown to me and I suspect, it may also be unknown to anyone in this forum.

https://scontent.fmga3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13958206_1169670113074266_1087347937406607646_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=2sx3C-2ZOJ0AX-5RmT0&_nc_ht=scontent.fmga3-2.fna&oh=00_AfBpLxbBfMFUVvSUS6uzzGGekp1hqcU1aWoaTQ00Rp41Yg&oe=64B6F57A

If only we could find out his name, see if he's still around, and learn what brand of watch he wore that day.

[Jaime1234]

I know the brand, but it isnt even worth naming it.

[drjohncarpenter]

Oh, no, anything to do with Elvis and watches is really important.

[Sugarfoot]

Here is the only KNOWN photo of the person who was hired to play Elvis double in "Fun in Acapulco", appearing mostly from a distance and during the scenes shot in Acapulco. To this day, his name is unknown to me and I suspect, it may also be unknown to anyone in this forum.

Question: how hard is it to display the image here directly, instead of a messy looking link?
Answer: Too damn hard.

[drjohncarpenter]

I think you misunderstood me. Blocking that particular user is my solution to avoid his constant derailments, which had ruined many topics for me.

I appreciate all that bripet56 contributed (his website is an enduring source of knowledge), as I appreciate your topics and posts.

Ohhhhh, shoot. I must've been blootered when I read your post, my apologies.

Thank you for the kind words.

[Jaime1234]

Peace almost invariably comes at the expense of a third party. Glad to be the one who wears that particular badge of honour, blocked as I may be, by a distinguished member of this forum with the approval of God only knows how many distinguished others. LOL.

Now, in my immediate family we have both financed, executed, and won a constitutional war, as was the case in 1927, as well as put an end to several others, in four continents, so this is nothing new to me. I

[drjohncarpenter]

One often wonders what kind of watches did Nelson Mandela endorse through ownership.

[Jaime1234]

The person who wrote the script for the movie "Invictus" did so basing it in the best selling book about the events written by John Carlin, a journalist and the son of an undercover MI6 man in Buenos Aires. He grew up there, with his prying parents, went to Oxford, and then in 1988 married a great friend of mine, one I know practically since her own birth, and who is a journalist herself. WOW!!

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carlin

Apparently when Carlin did the research with the actor who played Nelson Mandela (Morgan Freeman who was cast to play him in 2009 and has visited my country several times in the last 7 years...WOW ), Freeman told Carlin that he was not able to get the info from Mandela about his preferred brand of watches, WOW, not even in 1994, when Carlin first met him, nor later, so in the movie, in all 105 scenes done by Freeman, no watch as worn by Freeman is ever seen. WOW and LOL, Here is Freeman with another one of my childhood friends. This one went to Stanford, and loves the rum he produces, in turn labelled as the rum industry's global leader in sustainability

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSicUMSCMAEZjGu?format=jpg&name=900x900

But Mandela was a wise man, and he always kept secret his favourite brand, which is none other than Patek Philippe, as finally disclosed and seen at the 2019 Berlin Bikini Expo,

https://www.alamy.es/berlin-alemania-18-oct-2019-un-reloj-de-pulsera-de-nelson-mandela-esta-expuesta-en-la-exposicion-mandela-la-exposicion-oficial-en-el-lugar-de-la-exposicion-bikini-de-berlin-la-exposicion-utiliza-objetos-seleccionados-desde-la-vida-de-mandela-para-recapitular-los-acontecimientos-en-la-lucha-contra-la-segregacion-racial-y-la-superacion-del-apartheid-credito-paul-zinken-dpa-alamy-live-news-image330217233.html


The above is the answer to someone in our forum whose sarcasm is well noted. Now I ask our distinguished sarcastic poster to tell all of us here in this thread, which of these sarcastic affirmations he deems as not true, and which he reckons are true? Tough stuff...

[Jaime1234]

The watch in Fun in Acapulco is the same one he wore in Girls, Girls, Girls, which sold for $567,000 at a London auction in 2018.

Look at this beauty

i) With Ursula Andress, in a Paramount, LA set, with fake Acapulco background

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ii) With Elsa Cardenas at Paramount set in LA

https://d.latintimes.com/en/full/147831/elsa-cardenas-elvis-presley.webp?w=1100&f=bc1ebf7e71169800eece705ec306337b

iii) With Teri Hope, in a Paramoumt set in LA with fake Acapuloo bay in the background.

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iV9 The watch up close. It is the Bog Crown model https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/355317076_9551245954916598_6435450777671462401_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p320x320&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=BXS5dZABfQUAX-AaTlQ&_nc_ad=z-m&_nc_cid=0&_nc_ht=scontent.xx&oh=00_AfAoQXTR1CLjwkyhQhJaR6G90ax1EDtMJfU3-WiHEbvtnQ&oe=64994360

[drjohncarpenter]

Maybe the right watch could've saved Elvis in August 1977.

[Jaime1234]

The last watch he wore was a gift from Col. Parker , an 18 kt . gold and diamond-set automatic calendar ROLEX OYSTER PERPETUAL, one of the classiest presents he ever received, from anyone. Here it is, from the front and the back, so that some members of our distinguished forum can continue to admire several of these timepieces and, as a result, write such classy comments about them.

FRONT
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BACK

https://scontent.fmga3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/95137197_3831299040244680_8915898656733790208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=zmw1s3E0vVIAX-bkWzh&_nc_ht=scontent.fmga3-2.fna&oh=00_AfBq00-8SOpCAeyWV1lnreCryNb_048gWmy0M7snMTZ7hg&oe=64BB4B84

Lovely inscription which reads " To Elvis, Merry Christmas from your pal, Col, Thomas Parker. December 1976"

[jurasic1968]

Too bad he didn't sign with his real name.

[latebloomer]

Gorgeous, Jaime!

[Jaime1234]

Too bad he didn't sign with his real name.

LOL

[Jaime1234]

Gorgeous, Jaime!

Thank buddy, and to think the three most famous watches Elvis wore, not necessarily the costliest, were gifted to him, as you can see below,

The one at left in the photo, which was gifted to Elvis by Paramount, is a 1961 14kt yellow gold Hamilton Ventura which is currently at Graceland, It is worth little, maybe US$4,000? This watch is not to be confused with the one he wore during Blue Hawaii, which was never his and whose cost to SWATCH, which bought it from Paramount,. was US$1m. . \

The second was a December 25, 1960 gift by RCA to Elvis, , a 1960 18k white gold Omega by Tiffany, with 24 diamonds, It is currently at the Swatch Museum, It cost SWATCH $!.8m.

And the third in the photo is the one gifted to him by the Astrodome organizers, the 1970 18kt yellow gold Rolex Midas, which is also at Graceland and whose current cost would be difficult to assess. Priceless in fact. \

Note: The Midas, of which only 1000 were made, is the only model made by Rolex with the crown on the left side of the piece, thus inviting the person who owns it to wear it on the person's right wrist. This is because when the mythical King Midas turned things he touched into gold, he always did that with his left hand, not his right. So anyone trying to touch that crown, to change the time, has to use the left hand. Conversely, if its is used in the left wrist, the person would have to use the right hand to change the time, a hard task to do, especially is the person is not left handed.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5c78138211f784469d4817df/2104edaa-afef-4797-aa0d-c42d310f81ed/SIX_13CF92B1-1EDE-4D79-89D3-F1EBA37DCDBD+2.jpg?format=1000w

[Jaime1234]

One of the reasons Elvis, the person, shall not need to be EVER associated with an Oscar...This NYT article was written in early 2020, when filming for Baz Luhrmann "Elvis" had just started in Australia. LOL

Starring Role on the Wrist
What do “2001: A Space Odyssey,” “Mad Men” and all four “Men in Black” films have in common? Watches by Hamilton.



Elvis Presley wore the gold Hamilton Ventura in “Blue Hawaii” in 1961, and the black Ventura was worn by Tessa Thompson in “Men in Black: International” in 2019.
Credit...From left: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images; Daniel Auf der Mauer for The New York Times; Giles Keyte/Columbia Pictures, via Associated Press

By Ming Liu
Feb. 19, 2020
BIEL, Switzerland — The awards season is prime time for fashion designers and jewelry houses, but luxury watchmakers are in the scrum, too, as top brands vie to dress Hollywood on the red carpet.

At the Oscars, a 1993 Pasha de Cartier Collection watch in 18-karat gold was on Rami Malek’s wrist when he presented the best actress award to Renée Zellweger for “Judy.” And last month at the Golden Globes, a Bulgari ultrathin Octo Finissimo kept time for Antonio Banderas, a best actor nominee for “Pain and Glory.”

But one watch brand that lets its own cinematic history do the talking is Hamilton.

The Swiss house says its men’s and women’s watches have appeared in more than 500 films over the last 88 years. And it doesn’t pay product placement fees.

“We give total freedom to the movie’s creative team,” Sylvain Dolla, Hamilton’s chief executive, said during an interview at company headquarters. “We have no influence. But it’s authentic and genuine because there is no relationship of money.”

Hamilton’s mechanical and quartz watches end up in films in several ways, Mr. Dolla said. Many costume designers or prop masters already familiar with the brand just choose something from the current line. (The company has around 300 models, and introduces 60 to 80 new references a year.)

Or Hamilton acts as a consultant. It has two employees based in Los Angeles, one of whom often reads scripts in studios’ windowless, high-security rooms and then makes suggestions about which model might best suit a character.

The third way — and, Mr. Dolla said, most demanding — is to create a watch from scratch, something Hamilton did in the late 1960s when Stanley Kubrick asked it to make a futuristic wristwatch and desk clock for “2001: A Space Odyssey.”

Hamilton’s screen credits span genres, ranging from “Ocean’s 8” to “The Talented Mr. Ripley,” from “Mad Men” to Amazon Prime’s “Jack Ryan.” But action films are particularly frequent, with its Khaki tool watches — in military, diving and pilot styles — turning up in “The Martian,” “Independence Day,” “Pearl Harbor” and “A Good Day to Die Hard.”

In recent years Hamilton’s timepieces have been featured in 15 to 20 movies or TV series a year, Mr. Dolla said. And it is working on several at the moment, he said, declining to reveal any details.

At the start
Founded in 1892 in Lancaster, Pa., Hamilton initially supplied pocket watches to the booming railroad market and, later, became the official supplier to the U.S. Armed Forces.

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Its earliest watch cameo dates to the Jazz Age, when two of its Art Deco-style models — the cushion-shaped Flintridge and a Piping Rock model — featured in the 1932 thriller “Shanghai Express.” In the film, Shanghai Lily, played by Marlene Dietrich, realizes that her former lover still cares when she sees that her photograph is still inside the case of his Flintridge wristwatch.


René Rondeau, an author and former watchmaker who also was a Hamilton consultant for 25 years, said it was likely that the company’s watches appeared in early films because the actors already were fans. “This was a time before product placement, and the watches could very well have been the actors’ own,” he said.

It was Mr. Rondeau who identified the “Shanghai Express” appearances, but only a couple of years ago. Hamilton does not have precise records of its early silver screen history — and Mr. Dolla admitted the company wasn’t even sure about the exact number of films: “We say 500 films because we’re in around 15 to 20 per year, but we don’t count. It could be more.”mes

One model that it is positive about is the futuristic, shield-shaped Ventura. First produced in 1957 and still a best seller, the watch rose to fame when Elvis Presley strapped one to his wrist in 1961 for “Blue Hawaii.” It was immediately nicknamed “the Elvis watch.
It also appeared in 2017 in “Spider-Man: Homecoming” and in all four “Men in Black” movies.

Mr. Rondeau said Hamilton was “completely taken unawares” in 1997 when the Ventura appeared in the first M.I.B. movie. “Demand suddenly exploded and everybody wanted a Ventura,” he said. “There weren’t enough in the market and it’s not easy to ramp up production at the last second.” (In the second film, released in 2002, Will Smith as Agent J gives a chronograph version of the timepiece to tiny aliens living in a Grand Central Terminal locker.)

Watchmaking
Hollywood trivia aside, the Ventura also has real watchmaking cred as one of the first electric battery-powered timepieces — and much of Hamilton’s history is peppered with similar innovations. In 1970, for example, the company produced the LED display Pulsar, billed as the world’s first digital watch.

In 1974, Hamilton was bought by what would become the Swatch Group, and in 2003 moved its manufacturing and offices to Biel, Switzerland.

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Sylvain Dolla, Hamilton’s chief executive, says the company does not pay for product placement. “There is no relationship of money.”

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A visitor would never match the headquarters with Hamilton’s glamorous film history. None of its famous film watches are displayed and the office space could be that of almost any business — well, except perhaps for the Elvis mural in one room and the large orange airplane model in the lobby that references the brand’s aviation watches.

There aren’t even photographs from the brand’s annual Behind the Camera Awards, introduced in 2006, which celebrate the work of set and costume designers and prop masters. In recent years stars like Ryan Gosling, Rosamund Pike and Jake Gyllenhaal have attended the awards in Los Angeles and acted as presenters — but without any financial incentives, the company said.

Hamilton has more than 200 employees and approximately 3,500 points of sale worldwide — including 1,000 shop-in-shops, six e-commerce sites and four monobrand boutiques. Its top markets are the United States and Asia, and its most popular models are mechanical timepieces selling for $495 to $995.

(Hamilton’s parent, Swatch Group, does not release individual revenue figures for its 18 brands but the group’s 2019 results showed its net profit down almost 14 percent, to 748 million Swiss francs, or $775 million. Much of the decrease was linked to the political protests that roiled Hong Kong, a key market for the group.)

In Hollywood
When it comes to its movie associations, Hamilton sounds more like a nimble, entrepreneurial company than a 128-year-old corporate Swiss watchmaker.

“With a watch, you usually have 18 months to develop your model,” Mr. Dolla said. But when Hollywood calls, the watch is required “within weeks.”

That was the case with the 2014 film “Interstellar.”

For the movie, Ritchie Kremer, the props master whose other credits include the Coen brothers’ 2004 film “The Ladykillers” and the 2016 season of the TV series “Westworld,” chose a 42-millimeter Hamilton Khaki Field mechanical watch for the lead character of Joseph Cooper, a former NASA pilot, played by Matthew McConaughey. “He was a Midwest farmer type and Hamilton is that kind of brand,” Mr. Kremer said. “It seemed like a natural pairing for the character.

The watch played a key role in the plot when — spoiler alert — Cooper uses it to send a Morse code message that essentially saves humanity. And Hamilton had just three weeks to redevelop the watch so it would look as if it were relaying the code, a process that Mr. Dolla described as “intense.”

The effort was certainly not lost on Mr. Kremer. “They were really cool in coming through with the request that we had for the watch face. There was a lot of cut and paste with the design,” he said. “They made it pretty much exactly to our specifications. The time frame was tight, and they came through with flying colors.”

Fans also loved it. In 2019, Hamilton released a commercial version of The Murph watch, named for the movie’s lead female character. In steel with a black dial, it is identical to the one in the film, save for the tiny embellishment on the second hand — the word eureka in Morse code; it’s the word that, in the movie, the character exclaims when she deciphers the code message.

Mr. Dolla said he had seen the film nine times and considered the collaboration a career highlight. “I will remember this when I retire and talk to my grandchildren about it,” he said.

But he was quick to point out that Hamilton’s Hollywood ties didn’t ensure the watch’s sales success. “I don’t think a weaker design would have sold as much just because it’s in the movie.”

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