San Fransico,Oakland,LA - 1957 MAJOR UPDATE!!!

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Re: San Fransico,Oakland,LA - 1957

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davide wrote:Lower row(far left) Photo is from the San Francisco afternoon Press Conference,again new to me.
I'm certain it was published in Shaver's The Life of Elvis Presley (1979), and I've seen it in color, just cannot recall where. I'll try to pin it down.

Also, I'm pretty sure these are the correct views for these images:


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"Also, I'm pretty sure these are the correct views for these images"

Thanks - have updated the images.

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The fool wrote:Please, tell me I´m not dreaming. This seems too good to be true.

I just found these incredible photos here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/arresteddecaymusic/elvis57.html

These are real photographs from the San Francisco evening show, aren´t they?


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How was the soundsystems in the 50's?? I can't see any big speakers? :)



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torbjorn94 wrote: How was the soundsystems in the 50's?? I can't see any big speakers? :)
the sound ranged from around 13 to adult, mostly female and some with big ...speakers



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bripet56 wrote: The three photos in the center row are NOT from San Francisco. Just take a look at the background and compare with the one below. And they're not from Los Angeles either.
So what we have here are the first ever onstage photos from Oakland, October 27, 1957.

Cool! Too bad they weren't a liitl bigger.



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JamesVRoy wrote:
torbjorn94 wrote: How was the soundsystems in the 50's?? I can't see any big speakers? :)
the sound ranged from around 13 to adult, mostly female and some with big ...speakers
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bripet56 wrote:
JamesVRoy wrote:
torbjorn94 wrote: How was the soundsystems in the 50's?? I can't see any big speakers? :)
the sound ranged from around 13 to adult, mostly female and some with big ...speakers
LOL
Funny....



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torbjorn94 wrote:How was the sound systems in the 50s?? I can't see any big speakers?
From what I've seen, in October 1957 there were almost no sound systems like we appreciate today. Using the Civic Center example above, the music was heard via Scotty and Bill's guitar amplifiers, and the PA system (voices). Some venues might have added a mic or two near the drums, but also running through the house PA system.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
torbjorn94 wrote:How was the sound systems in the 50s?? I can't see any big speakers?
From what I've seen, in October 1957 there were almost no sound systems like we appreciate today. Using the Civic Center example above, the music was heard via Scotty and Bill's guitar amplifiers, and the PA system (voices). Some venues might have added a mic or two near the drums, but also running through the house PA system.
That's must have been awful sound :S
Sharp sound with just a little bass :)



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torbjorn94 wrote:That's must have been awful sound :S
Sharp sound with just a little bass :)
It's hard to say. Seeing a rock concert 53 years ago was a new and different experience. At an Elvis concert, the loudest sound in the building had to be the girls screaming.

The closest example we have is the amazing recording from Honolulu in 1961. The sound systems hadn't changed all that much in three and a half years, and the screaming is almost non-stop, but the show is very listenable regardless.


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Original image as posted on page 2 of this thread (above), August 27th 1957 from Memphis Central Railway station - and new improved (though smaller in size) and full frame below, where Vernon Presley can now be seen left of frame.

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I seem to keep dredging old threads up - thanks for this one, what fantastic photos!! :smt118


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29th October 1957 , Pan Pacific Auditorium.

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davide wrote:Image
Original image as posted on page 2 of this thread (above), August 27th 1957 from Memphis Central Railway station - and new improved (though smaller in size) and full frame below, where Vernon Presley can now be seen left of frame.

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Check out that look that Elvis is giving his mother! I've seen this picture before and noticed that he shot this interesting glare at Gladys while kissing that girl. Then that boy and girl next to Gladys are looking at her too. I wonder what was going on.



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Elvis in 1957 must surely have been the peak of his live career. One can only dream of a decent quality recording surfacing.


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Who says that treasure's still can't turn up! From ebay

October 26, 1957 - San Francisco afternoon performance. The listing of the numbers performed, and new photo's from this concert, Elvis wearing the Red Wine suit.


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1. Heartbreak Hotel
2. Don't Be Cruel
3. I've Got A Woman
4. MEAN WOMAN BLUES
5. Jailhouse Rock
6. I Was The One
7. Hound Dog
8. All Shook Up
9. Teddy Bear
10. That's When Your Heartaches Begin
11. When Your Blue Moon Turns To Gold Again
12. Blueberry Hill
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Wow! Fantastic.



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Thank you all for this fantastic topic, sensational !!!!

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Hi David!

Great find! Even in those semi-distorted images, the excitement is palpable.
Why, oh why, were these shows (apparently) not recorded?

The dozen listed songs are a delight, but it should be noted:

1 - Of the two missing numbers, one is most likely "Treat Me Nice" and the other possibly "Too Much" or "Blue Suede Shoes"
2 - "Mean Woman Blues" was done on 9-27-1957 in Tupelo, and "Loving You" was still in theaters, so it is not a major surprise in SF
3 - The tunes are not in chronological order: "Hound Dog" always closed the set, it would not be #7 and "Mean Woman Blues" also fell later in the set, it was a show-stopper

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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Hi David!

Great find! Even in those semi-distorted images, the excitement is palpable.
Why, oh why, were these shows (apparently) not recorded?

The dozen listed songs are a delight, but it should be noted:

1 - Of the two missing numbers, one is most likely "Treat Me Nice" and the other possibly "Too Much" or "Blue Suede Shoes"
2 - "Mean Woman Blues" was done on 9-27-1957 in Tupelo, and "Loving You" was still in theaters, so it is not a major surprise in SF
3 - The tunes are not in chronological order: "Hound Dog" always closed the set, it would not be #7 and "Mean Woman Blues" also fell later in the set, it was a show-stopper

Rockin' and awesome update, man!
1. Agreed about "Treat Me Nice" as being one of the missing songs on the list - Alan Hanson mention's that title in his book 'Elvis 57' from that performance.
2. "Mean Woman Blues" Would he have done this live, with the moves from the movie, on stage?
3. Yes, the list must have been written out, after the concert, as like you mentioned the songs don't appear to be in the correct order and are missing two.

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davide wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Hi David!

Great find! Even in those semi-distorted images, the excitement is palpable.
Why, oh why, were these shows (apparently) not recorded?

The dozen listed songs are a delight, but it should be noted:

1 - Of the two missing numbers, one is most likely "Treat Me Nice" and the other possibly "Too Much" or "Blue Suede Shoes"
2 - "Mean Woman Blues" was done on 9-27-1957 in Tupelo, and "Loving You" was still in theaters, so it is not a major surprise in SF
3 - The tunes are not in chronological order: "Hound Dog" always closed the set, it would not be #7 and "Mean Woman Blues" also fell later in the set, it was a show-stopper

Rockin' and awesome update, man!
1. Agreed about "Treat Me Nice" as being one of the missing songs on the list - Alan Hanson mention's that title in his book 'Elvis 57' from that performance.
2. "Mean Woman Blues" Would he have done this live, with the moves from the movie, on stage?[/collor]
3. Yes, the list must have been written out, after the concert, as like you mentioned the songs don't appear to be in the correct order and are missing two.

Davide

Thanks. Regarding "Mean Woman Blues" my suspicion is ... yes.


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The Miami News, Nov 2, 1957
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Cool article, Hopper clearly went to the first L.A. show, on 10-28-1957.

Do you have the missing paragraph?


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drjohncarpenter wrote:Cool article, Hopper clearly went to the first L.A. show, on 10-28-1957.

Do you have the missing paragraph?
Just a couple of lines - have put them in.

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Thanks for this new information, it just makes you wish even more you could've been at one of these shows. Possibly the best concerts of his life.


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