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Your Mama Don't Dance?

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The medley from "Recorded Live In Memphis" consists of 50's rockers and in the middle of it all there's a few lines from the 1972-73 hit by duo Loggins and Messina

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Long Tall Sally first released 1956
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On first released 1955
Flip, Flop and Fly first released 1955
Jailhouse Rock first released 1957
Hound Dog first released 1952

And then there's
Your Mama Don't Dance first released 1972

Even if it fits the medley just fine - it still seems a bit out of place.
So how did Elvis wind up with Your Mama Don't Dance?


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Elvis began using it in the summer of 1973, around the same time he quietly produced a demo of "Danny's Song" for Voice. Both were done by Loggins & Messina on a 2-16-1973 broadcast of ABC-TV's "In Concert" and both were big radio hits that year, the latter in a version by Anne Murray. So this program may be the inspiration.


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Loved Kenny loggings singing Danger Zone from Top Gun and Footloose from film of same name,also his early work with The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band was a good listen


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The nadir of Elvis' stage career. The Biblical equivalent of Dante's seventhe level of hell. Perhaps only bested by the EIC Jailhouse Rock and Hound Dog. A tragic fall from grace.


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Rockin_John wrote: Long Tall Sally first released 1956
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On first released 1955
Flip, Flop and Fly first released 1955
Jailhouse Rock first released 1957
Hound Dog first released 1952
Excuse my nitpicking, but "Hound Dog", as recorded by Big Mama Thornton, was first released in 1953, although it had been recorded in 1952.




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Doc what's the story with Danny's Song? Do you mean Elvis quietly produced the demo? I don't know that story.



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Nice medley I think the song fits right in - but I am not big fan of 50's rock and roll - with those 3 chords etc. But nice to hear one in a while.




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Fabbe wrote:Nice medley I think the song fits right in - but I am not big fan of 50's rock and roll - with those 3 chords etc. But nice to hear one in a while.

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I agree about the medley. It's fun and entertaining, and that's what Elvis was all about in that March tour. We know from the concerts we have available over the previous nine months or so that Elvis tried out different songs in different places in that medley, and clearly had a difficulty trying to find the right 2 songs to end it with, going through a number of options before finally coming to the version we know about mid-way through the August/September 1973 Vegas season. I'm not sure he ever found a satisfactory conclusion for the medley, which is a shame, for the first couple of minutes build up rather nicely but then Jailhouse Rock and Hound Dog are a bit pedestrian after that.

As for Your Mama Can't Dance, I don't really see where the year of release is any issue - the medley flows well at that point and the song harks back to 50s rock n roll during that little snippet anyway. I think it's easy to start pulling things to bits and analysing them instead of just sitting down and enjoying them for what they are.



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poormadpeter2 wrote:We know from the concerts we have available over the previous nine months or so that Elvis tried out different songs in different places in that medley, and clearly had a difficulty trying to find the right 2 songs to end it with, going through a number of options before finally coming to the version we know about mid-way through the August/September 1973 Vegas season.
Are you saying that there are other variations of the medley? Never heard them, please provide more info! ::rocks

EDIT <<<<<<
Just heard the Takin' Tahoe Tonight version, your right it differs a bit :)
Are there more variations?


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rickeap wrote:Doc what's the story with Danny's Song? Do you mean Elvis quietly produced the demo? I don't know that story.
http://www.keithflynn.com/recording-sessions/70_index.html#65

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Rockin_John wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:We know from the concerts we have available over the previous nine months or so that Elvis tried out different songs in different places in that medley, and clearly had a difficulty trying to find the right 2 songs to end it with, going through a number of options before finally coming to the version we know about mid-way through the August/September 1973 Vegas season.
Are you saying that there are other variations of the medley? Never heard them, please provide more info! ::rocks

EDIT <<<<<<
Just heard the Takin' Tahoe Tonight version, your right it differs a bit :)
Are there more variations?

There's the May 10th 1973 version:

Long Tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On / Your Mama Don't Dance / Flip Flop & Fly / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On

There's the May 13th 1973 version:

Long Tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On / Mama Don't Dance / Shake Rattle and Roll / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On

There's the Uniondale June 23rd 1973 version:

Long Tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On / Mama Don't Dance / Shake, Rattle and Roll / Jailhouse Rock / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On

There's The June 30th 1973 version:


Long Tall Sally / Mama Don't Dance / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On

There's the August 6th 1973 version:

Long Tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On / Mama Don't Dance / Flip Flop & Fly / Jailhouse Rock / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On


There are probably more variations, but these above show that Elvis was indeed searching at that time. By the time we get to the August 23rd concerts the medley has the format we know from Memphis '74. On the April '73 tour and in Tahoe '73 the Long tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On medley was used also.
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Post by Juan Luis »

"Your Mama Don't Dance" fit perfectly with the rhythm of the medley and groove.
When I first heard it, I thought it was an old 50's rockn roll number. IMO, Elvis knew the feel of this, and proceeded. He got it!




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I continue to enjoy that medley. I also like the albeit short, Mama Don't Dance. While I like it in the medley, I really would have loved to have heard Elvis do a complete version either on stage or a studio version. I think the song itself and especially the arrangement in the medley fit Elvis well.

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Rockin_John wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:We know from the concerts we have available over the previous nine months or so that Elvis tried out different songs in different places in that medley, and clearly had a difficulty trying to find the right 2 songs to end it with, going through a number of options before finally coming to the version we know about mid-way through the August/September 1973 Vegas season.
Are you saying that there are other variations of the medley? Never heard them, please provide more info! ::rocks

EDIT <<<<<<
Just heard the Takin' Tahoe Tonight version, your right it differs a bit :)
Are there more variations?
There are ones where he ends with Whole Lotta Shakin Again. And Shake Rattle and Roll and Blue Suede Shoes were used at various points too. If you click on info beside each concert in the link, you will normally find a tracklisting.

http://www.elvisconcerts.com/concerts/dboutput.php?search_tourref=search_tourref&search_month=search_month&search_day=search_day&search_year=search_year&search_city=search_city&search_state=search_state&search_suit=search_suit&search_musician=search_musician&search_song=Mama+Dont+Dance&search_pics=search_pics&search_cd=search_cd&search_vid=search_vid&search_aud=search_aud

EDIT: Just saw Stefankock got there before me. I'll leave the link anyway.



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I love that song... not really a fan of Elvis' version and although it fits with his medley, it's not even the same song.
Here's a great version Kenny does with Darryl Hall at Darryl's place...


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Keith wrote:
rickeap wrote:Doc what's the story with Danny's Song? Do you mean Elvis quietly produced the demo? I don't know that story.
http://www.keithflynn.com/recording-sessions/70_index.html#65

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