fn2drive wrote:Both this track and Girl Next Door are excellent vocal performances. They're no Padres but what is.
poormadpeter2 wrote:Once again you have to bring out the old yawn-inducing, annoying, pathetic, juvenile Padre reference.
fn2drive wrote:Perhaps an early version of Padre would have made for a more inspired opening for you.
English lyrics to "Padre" were provided in the mid 1950s by Paul Francis Webster. Toni Arden had a million-seller with the number in 1958, reaching number 13 in the Billboard Hot 100. During an interview in 1958, Elvis stated that this was his favourite song
Not quite. The statement comes from a press conference, and Presley names two songs that are favorites at the time:
My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden? And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
fn2drive wrote:Like Darth Vader as apprentice to Obi Wan with none of the remdemption at the end. Atkins will long be remembered; Felton who?
IIRC, it was Steve Sholes who had problems with all-night Presley sessions, and would fall asleep in the control room. But he was a producer in name only, and certainly not the last one like that for Elvis.
fn2drive wrote:Both this track and Girl Next Door are excellent vocal performances. They're no Padres but what is.
poormadpeter2 wrote:Once again you have to bring out the old yawn-inducing, annoying, pathetic, juvenile Padre reference.
fn2drive wrote:Perhaps an early version of Padre would have made for a more inspired opening for you.
English lyrics to "Padre" were provided in the mid 1950s by Paul Francis Webster. Toni Arden had a million-seller with the number in 1958, reaching number 13 in the Billboard Hot 100. During an interview in 1958, Elvis stated that this was his favourite song
Not quite. The statement comes from a press conference, and Presley names two songs that are favorites at the time:
My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden? And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.
And his love for and commitment to the song was revealed in the monstrous Hack Jarvis produced mess that should have never been released in his lifetime. Thanks Felton.
Hack n. 1. a person, esp. a professional, who surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward
fn2drive wrote:Both this track and Girl Next Door are excellent vocal performances. They're no Padres but what is.
poormadpeter2 wrote:Once again you have to bring out the old yawn-inducing, annoying, pathetic, juvenile Padre reference.
fn2drive wrote:Perhaps an early version of Padre would have made for a more inspired opening for you.
English lyrics to "Padre" were provided in the mid 1950s by Paul Francis Webster. Toni Arden had a million-seller with the number in 1958, reaching number 13 in the Billboard Hot 100. During an interview in 1958, Elvis stated that this was his favourite song
Not quite. The statement comes from a press conference, and Presley names two songs that are favorites at the time:
My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden? And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.
And his love for and commitment to the song was revealed in the monstrous Hack Jarvis produced mess that should have never been released in his lifetime. Thanks Felton.
Somebody woke me up too early. He's still prattling on.
fn2drive wrote:Both this track and Girl Next Door are excellent vocal performances. They're no Padres but what is.
poormadpeter2 wrote:Once again you have to bring out the old yawn-inducing, annoying, pathetic, juvenile Padre reference.
fn2drive wrote:Perhaps an early version of Padre would have made for a more inspired opening for you.
English lyrics to "Padre" were provided in the mid 1950s by Paul Francis Webster. Toni Arden had a million-seller with the number in 1958, reaching number 13 in the Billboard Hot 100. During an interview in 1958, Elvis stated that this was his favourite song
Not quite. The statement comes from a press conference, and Presley names two songs that are favorites at the time:
My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden? And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.
And his love for and commitment to the song was revealed in the monstrous Hack Jarvis produced mess that should have never been released in his lifetime. Thanks Felton.
Somebody woke me up too early. He's still prattling on.
fn2drive wrote:Both this track and Girl Next Door are excellent vocal performances. They're no Padres but what is.
poormadpeter2 wrote:Once again you have to bring out the old yawn-inducing, annoying, pathetic, juvenile Padre reference.
fn2drive wrote:Perhaps an early version of Padre would have made for a more inspired opening for you.
English lyrics to "Padre" were provided in the mid 1950s by Paul Francis Webster. Toni Arden had a million-seller with the number in 1958, reaching number 13 in the Billboard Hot 100. During an interview in 1958, Elvis stated that this was his favourite song
Not quite. The statement comes from a press conference, and Presley names two songs that are favorites at the time:
My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden? And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.
And his love for and commitment to the song was revealed in the monstrous Hack Jarvis produced mess that should have never been released in his lifetime. Thanks Felton.
Somebody woke me up too early. He's still prattling on.
If it keeps you from hurling your insults in every direction, then i'm happy. Recharge your batteries-give Padre a couple of spins and all will be well with the universe. I know it works for you. Just not the outtakes.
Hack n. 1. a person, esp. a professional, who surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward
skatterbrane wrote:Had Elvis recorded Padre in the early 60s, it probably would have been decent.
I agree. Indeed that early 60s voice and no Jarvis might have produced a masterpiece. By the time he got around to recording it, the song was beyond dated and neither he nor Jarvis did themselves any favors. Had Jarvis had an ounce of credibility, he would have left it in the vault. As we know he didnt and hence its release on the career killer Fool LP. But it is a narcotic for many here so it has a purpose.
Hack n. 1. a person, esp. a professional, who surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
Hack n. 1. a person, esp. a professional, who surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
I agree too. Never been a big fan of Stuck On You I think it's not a great song, ok but not great. Make Me Know It/Fame And Fortune sounds better.
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
I agree too. Never been a big fan of Stuck On You I think it's not a great song, ok but not great. Make Me Know It/Fame And Fortune sounds better.
I don't agree at all. "Stuck On You" was clearly meant to hit all the bells for the first single since coming stateside: catchy vocal hook, easy melody with another hook (start-stop-start), hand claps and sturdy backing vocals from the Jordanaires, and a bridge that echoed the fire of "One Night." It hit #1 exactly as planned, and set Elvis on his way. "Make Me Know It" is a very good album track, but does not possess any of the above qualities which propelled "Stuck On You" to the top.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
Kiss in the lyrics? Sure, that must have been essential.
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
I agree too. Never been a big fan of Stuck On You I think it's not a great song, ok but not great. Make Me Know It/Fame And Fortune sounds better.
I don't agree at all. "Stuck On You" was clearly meant to hit all the bells for the first single since coming stateside: catchy vocal hook, easy melody with another hook (start-stop-start), hand claps and sturdy backing vocals from the Jordanaires, and a bridge that echoed the fire of "One Night." It hit #1 exactly as planned, and set Elvis on his way. "Make Me Know It" is a very good album track, but does not possess any of the above qualities which propelled "Stuck On You" to the top.
I agree that the song is certainly more commercial than Make Me Know It , but for me personally, it's not a killer, it's good but not great! It's performaned great by Elvis and the band, but there's something about it that doesn't reach killer material.
Having said that, I honestly believe if it hadn't of been Elvis' first post army single, say released later in 1960 or 1961 even, I don't think the single would've sold a million or made #1. The anticipation of Elvis' first release from the army was very high and I think that was the reason it did so well.
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
I agree too. Never been a big fan of Stuck On You I think it's not a great song, ok but not great. Make Me Know It/Fame And Fortune sounds better.
I don't agree at all. "Stuck On You" was clearly meant to hit all the bells for the first single since coming stateside: catchy vocal hook, easy melody with another hook (start-stop-start), hand claps and sturdy backing vocals from the Jordanaires, and a bridge that echoed the fire of "One Night." It hit #1 exactly as planned, and set Elvis on his way. "Make Me Know It" is a very good album track, but does not possess any of the above qualities which propelled "Stuck On You" to the top.
And thats the key here. Pick the most commercial uptempo song for the first single , and they did. I can tell you as a kid, I loved it. It reminded me of All Shook Up which was one of my favorite songs. Over the years though, I do prefer Make Me Know It for its edgier quality. Either way, both songs couldnt miss being #1 upon his return.
r&b wrote:It reminded me of All Shook Up which was one of my favorite songs.
Very much so. Definitely a throw-back to ASU. And yes, a little like the climax of One Night as well:
A team of wild horses couldn't tear us apart/Been too lonely too long.
Classic track. Not quite as rockin' as Make Me Know It but the right single choice for 1960. Maybe MMKI would've been a better choice had it been 1958
brian wrote:I like the song it might have made a better single release instead of Stuck on you and as it is it was a solid album track.
I agree. The track is imo superior to Stuck On You. I always wondered how that was the track to pick. Good performance but weak song. I wouldnt be surprised if RCA went back and forth on the demos. Both have kiss in the lyrics so perhaps that was something that was a must for the first song.
I agree too. Never been a big fan of Stuck On You I think it's not a great song, ok but not great. Make Me Know It/Fame And Fortune sounds better.
I don't agree at all. "Stuck On You" was clearly meant to hit all the bells for the first single since coming stateside: catchy vocal hook, easy melody with another hook (start-stop-start), hand claps and sturdy backing vocals from the Jordanaires, and a bridge that echoed the fire of "One Night." It hit #1 exactly as planned, and set Elvis on his way. "Make Me Know It" is a very good album track, but does not possess any of the above qualities which propelled "Stuck On You" to the top.
You do an excellent job of laying out the elements of this track. As I reflected on your observations, it hit me- it just feels contrived and that's why i used to pass it by. It was only a couple of years ago that i finally saw his performance on the Timex special of SOY and the visual really made me enjoy the track a whole lot more. I usually listen now but i replay the performance in my head.
Hack n. 1. a person, esp. a professional, who surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward
drjohncarpenter wrote:I don't agree at all. "Stuck On You" was clearly meant to hit all the bells for the first single since coming stateside: catchy vocal hook, easy melody with another hook (start-stop-start), hand claps and sturdy backing vocals from the Jordanaires, and a bridge that echoed the fire of "One Night." It hit #1 exactly as planned, and set Elvis on his way. "Make Me Know It" is a very good album track, but does not possess any of the above qualities which propelled "Stuck On You" to the top.
You do an excellent job of laying out the elements of this track. As I reflected on your observations, it hit me- it just feels contrived and that's why i used to pass it by. It was only a couple of years ago that i finally saw his performance on the Timex special of SOY and the visual really made me enjoy the track a whole lot more. I usually listen now but i replay the performance in my head.
The TV performance of "Stuck On You" is outstanding, and the audience reaction underscores why it went to #1.
. Dr. John Carpenter, M.D. Stop, look and listen, baby <<--->> that's my philosophy!
Make Me Know It was a fine opener to the album. In the EU it ended up as a B-side to It's Now Or Never and was ok at that. As for a first single after the army I think they did fine with Stuck On You. I like that one over Make Me Know It. Still MMKI is a great track!
"If you love me let me know, if you don't, ....move it!"
bajo wrote:Make Me Know It was a fine opener to the album. In the EU it ended up as a B-side to It's Now Or Never and was ok at that. As for a first single after the army I think they did fine with Stuck On You. I like that one over Make Me Know It. Still MMKI is a great track!
There were so many fine tracks recorded in 1960, many could have been used as A sides. Some of the B sides were much better than A sides used later on in the decade. Arguably, 1960 was Elvis' most productive year in the studio.
Juan Luis, I must ask you this, and I am not trying to be a wise guy here, but what is with your severe admiration to Felton Jarvis? You like him as no other person I ever met or talked to. This is your 3rd (I think) avatar photo of him. People think Elvis devotees are a bit strange, but a Jarvis devotee? Please, I want to know why you think he was so special. Again, not being a person who wants to rile things up, but I really want to know. If you want to pick a sideman, why not a pic of Sam Phillips, Scotty Moore, or if a 70's fan, James Burton? But Jarvis? I just dont get it. What did he do that was so special?
Juan Luis, I must ask you this, and I am not trying to be a wise guy here, but what is with your severe admiration to Felton Jarvis? You like him as no other person I ever met or talked to. This is your 3rd (I think) avatar photo of him. People think Elvis devotees are a bit strange, but a Jarvis devotee? Please, I want to know why you think he was so special. Again, not being a person who wants to rile things up, but I really want to know. If you want to pick a sideman, why not a pic of Sam Phillips, Scotty Moore, or if a 70's fan, James Burton? But Jarvis? I just dont get it. What did he do that was so special?
