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drjohncarpenter wrote:But the suggestion that Sam Phillips taped more than two and a half minutes of mouth noises from Elvis, then relied on that as a playback while the trio laid down a vocal and backing, is absolutely ludicrous.
Elvis Recorded "Mouth Noises" At Sun --> Mystery Solved ?


This is feckin' hilarious. The sound on "Blue Moon" is clearly acoustic string based, with just a touch of 'slide'.
Yes, a lot of people say that. It's easy. Still I haven't seen one bit of proof that you can make this sound on a guitar. Just one YouTube clip would be enough. We have Elvis making mouthsounds in 1958 that sound very similar.
If there is one thing those sounds in '58 are not, it is very similar. But OK, I'll humor you. First, where did you get the notion that those sounds from '58 came from Elvis' mouth?

On the tape they start singing a bit of Tumbling Tumbleweeds and Elvis does a clip clop sound.
I heard the clip clop sound. The question I'm asking, is where does the notion that Elvis is making the sound with his mouth, come from.


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mike edwards66 wrote:
Domino wrote:
mike edwards66 wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
mike edwards66 wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:But the suggestion that Sam Phillips taped more than two and a half minutes of mouth noises from Elvis, then relied on that as a playback while the trio laid down a vocal and backing, is absolutely ludicrous.
Elvis Recorded "Mouth Noises" At Sun --> Mystery Solved ?


This is feckin' hilarious. The sound on "Blue Moon" is clearly acoustic string based, with just a touch of 'slide'.
Yes, a lot of people say that. It's easy. Still I haven't seen one bit of proof that you can make this sound on a guitar. Just one YouTube clip would be enough. We have Elvis making mouthsounds in 1958 that sound very similar.
If there is one thing those sounds in '58 are not, it is very similar. But OK, I'll humor you. First, where did you get the notion that those sounds from '58 came from Elvis' mouth?

On the tape they start singing a bit of Tumbling Tumbleweeds and Elvis does a clip clop sound.
I heard the clip clop sound. The question I'm asking, is where does the notion that Elvis is making the sound with his mouth, come from.

I think the notion comes from Elvis's words after he clip clops.He says "I did that on one of my first records ,Blue Moon".......then he sings the title and hums a bit of it.I think he's just saying Blue Moon had a clip clop in it but doesn't mean he's saying he's making the clip clop himself.
In my opinion the Blue Moon clip clop and the 1958 clip clop are apples and oranges.


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Fwiw here's some guitar tab from Elvis Presley - The Sun Sessions (Guitar Recorded Versions - Wise Publications).
P.M. means palm mute. I haven't tried this myself though.
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It is also rumoured that an actual horse was present at the recording of 'Blue Moon'. Sam had it clip-clopping back and forth across the studio while he recorded it 'on the hoof' then with the live feedback tape running simultaneously he was able to get that wonderful reverb effect.
'Lonesome Cowboy' from 1957 has a similiar arrangement but it was not the same horse apparently, this is easy to distinguish as it is more a cloppity-clip sound.
It would be interesting to get the facts from the horses mouth but sadly the rumored mare passed away in the early sixties under rather mysterious circumstances...


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When In Rome wrote:It is also rumoured that an actual horse was present at the recording of 'Blue Moon'. Sam had it clip-clopping back and forth across the studio while he recorded it 'on the hoof' then with the live feedback tape running simultaneously he was able to get that wonderful reverb effect.
'Lonesome Cowboy' from 1957 has a similiar arrangement but it was not the same horse apparently, this is easy to distinguish as it is more a cloppity-clip sound.
It would be interesting to get the facts from the horses mouth but sadly the rumored mare passed away in the early sixties under rather mysterious circumstances...


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Why take elvis' words as true? He never listened to his old records anyway.
Remember the early 1956 interview while talking about his sun records where he mentions that they don't recorded his guitar? And his first single, that's allright, opens with what?

Elvis would have been an unsuitable person to write about his own recordings in a book decades later.



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matilda wrote:Why take elvis' words as true? He never listened to his old records anyway.
Remember the early 1956 interview while talking about his sun records where he mentions that they don't recorded his guitar? And his first single, that's allright, opens with what?

Elvis would have been an unsuitable person to write about his own recordings in a book decades later.
I don't agree at all. It's been proven again and again that when Elvis cared about his history, he was deadly accurate in his memory. For example, both D. J. Fontana and June Juanico (1955-1956 girlfriend) are on record about this fact.

The interview you allude to is the one given to WLW disc jockey Don Davis, likely taped between March 14 and 22, 1956. You misunderstand what Elvis says to him. They are speaking about recording at Sun, and "Blue Moon of Kentucky." When Presley says "I play the guitar but they don't record it" he means that Sam Phillips only put recording microphones near Bill Black's bass and Scotty Moore's guitar, And the rest of the interview shows him being quite on point about people, places and events.

Almost twenty years later, super-fan John Herman handed him a copy of the 1975 U.K. Sun collection at a Vegas show, and the singer immediately noted it contained his first five singles for Sun. With the right collaborator, Elvis' thoughts on his own recordings would have been a revelation.


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No, I don't misunderstand.
Since elvis' guitar was miked through his vocal mike (it didn't need an extra mike, it was prominent enough) it was used as an integral part on the recordings....with especially 2 sun- songs opening (and not by accident) with elvis' Guitar (that's allright, I' m left, you're right, she's gone).
So elvis' comment is wrong or at least misleading in that interview.



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matilda wrote:No, I don't misunderstand.
Since elvis' guitar was miked through his vocal mike (it didn't need an extra mike, it was prominent enough) it was used as an integral part on the recordings....with especially 2 sun- songs opening (and not by accident) with elvis' Guitar (that's allright, I' m left, you're right, she's gone).
So elvis' comment is wrong or at least misleading in that interview.
You are mistaken. And there are later Sun sessions where Elvis' guitar did get a microphone placed near it, just not at the date where he cut the B-side to his debut single. Argue all you want, those are the facts.


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I said my 2 cents.
Just because you don't agree doesn't make your opinion, which is just that, more right.
Listen to the opening of the 2 songs I mentioned, it's fun.
It may enlighten you and you may hear a guitar.

I am not playing your games.