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emjel wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote:
Hey, Juan,do i get a "like" from you? :lol:
Doesn't Juan get one from you for posting his OP with interesting background info on the song and two worthwile clips? Would be the first time you would show some appreciation for juan's work.

When is your well thought out OP scheduled? Looking forward to it.

It's a relaxing song, Juan. One which Elvis sings perfectly. It sounds so far away from his speaking voice. It's amazing. Thanks for posting and the Eddy Arnold clip.

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To be fair, the info was nothing new to me,nothing that i didn't know about already - i posted a positive comment - my reply was just a bit of fun since he never likes any of my posts,even though i do post some positive comments on his topics.l
Are you aware you are using 3 times I and 3 times me/my in only one sentence?

It's a true sign of grandiosity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosity

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Unbelievable - absolutely unbelievable. DaveLee was simply trying to add a bit of humour and maybe offer an olive branch to Juan - smooth the waters a bit - and you have to come in once again giving lessons on English grammar coupled with a link on specific wording that you use to describe him. And then you ask why his response is hostile. I remember you did a similar thing on another thread. We are here just adding simple comments on an Elvis forum - we are not trying to win some kind literary award.

The title of the thread must be considered as quite relevant to how you attack others for derailing a thread when you do so yourself. Why oh why did you feel the need to add a comment on how people should write. I know Juan and I do not always agree on things, but Juan has my sympathy for spending time in adding the topic and must be tearing his hair out at the prospect of seeing it deteriorate into a slanging match because of a comment that simply was not needed.

I've already added my thoughts on how superb this song is, and I have added my thanks to Juan for uploading the Eddy Arnold track so I can safely withdraw from this thread too.
Thank you. But I cannot agree with the line in bold. Especially coming off minutes from this post.
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93421&start=50#p1499404 And that is just the latest of many. Thanks again.




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Wow, what a subtle,low-key ballad.I enjoy it very much.



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Juan Luis wrote:Thank you. But I cannot agree with the line in bold. Especially coming off minutes from this post.
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93421&start=50#p1499404 And that is just the latest of many. Thanks again.
emjel doesn't have time to read all topics. But he does have time to meddle, while he hasn't have a clue on what's going on between people here.

It's a sin :wink:

Love the song. Take 2:

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emjel wrote:To my ears - Elvis at his best. Simple perfection as are several ballads from the SFE Album. Thanks for the Eddy Arnold upload but Elvis' version for me is the better one. I could listen to Elvis' voice from this period all day. I Met Her Today is another beauty for me from this era and it was a shame in some ways it was relegated to the shelves until Elvis for Everyone came out. Great stuff.
I fully agree. And I Met Her Today is one of my all time favorites. Never getting bored listening to it.

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Two albums that were like a breath of fresh air for me were Something For Everybody & Pot Luck.
I didn't realize "It's A Sin" was a remake until I heard it on an Eddy Arnold CD.
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I sampled a few of the other versions and the Ivory Joe Hunter recording and I have to agree that Elvis could possibly have based his in it.
Did this song come to Elvis through the Colonel because it was an Eddy Arnold song or did Elvis just pull it out of his hat because he remembered it from years before ?
Well,along with the "Something For Everybody" album,it's tops with me.In those early 60's years Elvis's voice was untouchable.He was a singer's singer.
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r&b wrote:His 1961 voice was like milk & honey. This is a great example of it. Perfect execution. The whole album is good, but could have been better with I Feel So Bad on it.
I Feel So Bad would have been a nice track for the album for sure. The only thing that doesn't work, for me, about the album is placing all the rockers on one side and the ballads on the other side. To have six ballads, though they are all perfection, all grouped together can get a bit monotonous, it would have been better to have mixed them up - start off with a rocker, then a ballad, another rocker and so on. Other then that, as far as the music goes theres no complaints from me, sheer perfection and at his peak vocally.




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In those shots of Eddy Arnold with Elvis, I wish he would have pulled the youngster off to the side and told him about the other side of Colonel Parker and how he fired him. I'm sure there were similarities in the ways Parker managed both of them.




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Davelee wrote:
r&b wrote:His 1961 voice was like milk & honey. This is a great example of it. Perfect execution. The whole album is good, but could have been better with I Feel So Bad on it.
I Feel So Bad would have been a nice track for the album for sure. The only thing that doesn't work, for me, about the album is placing all the rockers on one side and the ballads on the other side. To have six ballads, though they are all perfection, all grouped together can get a bit monotonous, it would have been better to have mixed them up - start off with a rocker, then a ballad, another rocker and so on. Other then that, as far as the music goes theres no complaints from me, sheer perfection and at his peak vocally.
I always thought it was an attempt at being innovative which was rare for an Elvis album. I see what you are saying, but it didnt bother me all that much because he was so good then. Now if it was the Stax stuff or later,,,,




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r&b wrote:
Davelee wrote:
r&b wrote:His 1961 voice was like milk & honey. This is a great example of it. Perfect execution. The whole album is good, but could have been better with I Feel So Bad on it.
I Feel So Bad would have been a nice track for the album for sure. The only thing that doesn't work, for me, about the album is placing all the rockers on one side and the ballads on the other side. To have six ballads, though they are all perfection, all grouped together can get a bit monotonous, it would have been better to have mixed them up - start off with a rocker, then a ballad, another rocker and so on. Other then that, as far as the music goes theres no complaints from me, sheer perfection and at his peak vocally.
I always thought it was an attempt at being innovative which was rare for an Elvis album. I see what you are saying, but it didnt bother me all that much because he was so good then. Now if it was the Stax stuff or later,,,,
From 1961 to 1973 is a big jump.




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Juan Luis wrote:
r&b wrote:
Davelee wrote:
r&b wrote:His 1961 voice was like milk & honey. This is a great example of it. Perfect execution. The whole album is good, but could have been better with I Feel So Bad on it.
I Feel So Bad would have been a nice track for the album for sure. The only thing that doesn't work, for me, about the album is placing all the rockers on one side and the ballads on the other side. To have six ballads, though they are all perfection, all grouped together can get a bit monotonous, it would have been better to have mixed them up - start off with a rocker, then a ballad, another rocker and so on. Other then that, as far as the music goes theres no complaints from me, sheer perfection and at his peak vocally.
I always thought it was an attempt at being innovative which was rare for an Elvis album. I see what you are saying, but it didnt bother me all that much because he was so good then. Now if it was the Stax stuff or later,,,,
From 1961 to 1973 is a big jump.
Yes and my point being, his voice should not have changed so much. He was only 37. He lost a lot of that early 60's tone, breath control, and phrasing, Way before 1973 BTW. But thats another topic isnt it.




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IIrc, side A is titled, the "Ballad" side and side B is titled the "Rythym" side.

Sort of a concept there.


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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
minkahed wrote:IIrc, side A is titled, the "Ballad" side and side B is titled the "Rythym" side.

Sort of a concept there.
I agree on that :wink:. Some say that the only Elvis concept album did was "Elvis Country" but to me the first was Something For Everybody lp!.

That said, this song belongs to one of the greatest Elvis 60´s album (peaked at number 1 on Billboard's Top Pop LPs). The only song that should not have been included was: I Slipped, I Stumbled, I fell :facep:.
the single "I Feel So Bad" was initially scheduled to be the twelfth track for the album, but Presley chose, after RCA executive Bill Bullock overruled the Colonel who wanted "Wild In The Country" paired with "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell" as the single, it to accompany the title track to the film Wild in the Country as the promotional 45 for the film. "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell", became the final track for the album.
The original 60´s Canadian lp version, included a more fuller picture on the cover compared to the U.S one 8).

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Thanks Juan Luis for another nice topic, love this country tune :smt020. Bye for now :smt006.

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Something For Everybody was and still is a favorite album of mine! And I must admit that I like the Canadian cover better than the original! :)


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Isn't it amazing that some artists nowadays take years to come up with one album, while eleven tracks of Something For Everybody were recorded in just one 12 hour session?

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Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! :D :D :D.
minkahed wrote:IIrc, side A is titled, the "Ballad" side and side B is titled the "Rythym" side.

Sort of a concept there.
I agree on that :wink:. Some say that the only Elvis concept album did was "Elvis Country" but to me the first was Something For Everybody lp!.

That said, this song belongs to one of the greatest Elvis 60´s album (peaked at number 1 on Billboard's Top Pop LPs). The only song that should not have been included was: I Slipped, I Stumbled, I fell :facep:.
the single "I Feel So Bad" was initially scheduled to be the twelfth track for the album, but Presley chose, after RCA executive Bill Bullock overruled the Colonel who wanted "Wild In The Country" paired with "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell" as the single, it to accompany the title track to the film Wild in the Country as the promotional 45 for the film. "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell", became the final track for the album.
The original 60´s Canadian lp version, included a more fuller picture on the cover compared to the U.S one 8).

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Thanks Juan Luis for another nice topic, love this country tune :smt020. Bye for now :smt006.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_for_Everybody
I have always preferred that Canadian cover as the pic is so clear and focused.

The printing they used on some of the re-issues was simply awful.

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I actually think I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell works well on the rhythm side. I sometimes (gasp) skip I Want You With Me to immediately get to the infectious and playful sounding movie cut. Besides Elvis, I like the keyboard work on this.

I certainly like I Feel So Bad on the single as opposed to I Slipped/Wild In The Country. That could have been the first single to miss the top 10, if they had done it.




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A real nice song from the "Something for Everybody" album. It's a nice soft a arrangement that Elvis delivers on. He seems to really connect with this one. I enjoy hearing his voice from the time in his career.
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Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! :D :D :D.
minkahed wrote:IIrc, side A is titled, the "Ballad" side and side B is titled the "Rythym" side.

Sort of a concept there.
I agree on that :wink:. Some say that the only Elvis concept album did was "Elvis Country" but to me the first was Something For Everybody lp!.

That said, this song belongs to one of the greatest Elvis 60´s album (peaked at number 1 on Billboard's Top Pop LPs). The only song that should not have been included was: I Slipped, I Stumbled, I fell :facep:.
the single "I Feel So Bad" was initially scheduled to be the twelfth track for the album, but Presley chose, after RCA executive Bill Bullock overruled the Colonel who wanted "Wild In The Country" paired with "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell" as the single, it to accompany the title track to the film Wild in the Country as the promotional 45 for the film. "I Slipped, I Stumbled, I Fell", became the final track for the album.
The original 60´s Canadian lp version, included a more fuller picture on the cover compared to the U.S one 8).

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Thanks Juan Luis for another nice topic, love this country tune :smt020. Bye for now :smt006.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_for_Everybody
Glad you and everyone enjoyed it! Thanks all for posting!




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Juan Luis wrote:Written by country guitarist Zeb Turner and music publisher Fred Rose. Recorded by Eddy Arnold in 1946 for RCA, and a #1 country hit in 1947 for five weeks. According to Ernst Jorgensen, Elvis in 1954 saw Arnold perform the tune with The Jordaniares backing him. This was the same event Elvis talked to Gordon Stoker about wanting The Jordanaires in words to the effect of working with him in the future.
Eventually Elvis used The Jordanaires to back him with this song, but in my opinion, it stops there. Sounds to me closer to Ivory Joe Hunters version if it needs comparing to anyone at all. Welcome will be, if someone finds another version Elvis might have emulated closer. A beautiful tune recorded by Elvis swiftly in four takes, on March 12, 1961, in Nashville's RCA Studio B. Bill Porter behind the console with Steve Sholes at the helm. Included in the aptly titled "Something For Everybody" album released on June 17 of the same year.
This is Elvis Presley in 1961! Need I say more?

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I think Elvis' voice from 1960 - 1966 was THE BEST even though I do love the 50's voice Juan! To me he was trying o be Tom Jones in the 70's and while I do like more songs from those years than I usually admit to when I listen to Elvis' music it's normally 1953 - 1966 but that's just me!




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wwelvis wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:Written by country guitarist Zeb Turner and music publisher Fred Rose. Recorded by Eddy Arnold in 1946 for RCA, and a #1 country hit in 1947 for five weeks. According to Ernst Jorgensen, Elvis in 1954 saw Arnold perform the tune with The Jordaniares backing him. This was the same event Elvis talked to Gordon Stoker about wanting The Jordanaires in words to the effect of working with him in the future.
Eventually Elvis used The Jordanaires to back him with this song, but in my opinion, it stops there. Sounds to me closer to Ivory Joe Hunters version if it needs comparing to anyone at all. Welcome will be, if someone finds another version Elvis might have emulated closer. A beautiful tune recorded by Elvis swiftly in four takes, on March 12, 1961, in Nashville's RCA Studio B. Bill Porter behind the console with Steve Sholes at the helm. Included in the aptly titled "Something For Everybody" album released on June 17 of the same year.
This is Elvis Presley in 1961! Need I say more?

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I think Elvis' voice from 1960 - 1966 was THE BEST even though I do love the 50's voice Juan! To me he was trying o be Tom Jones in the 70's and while I do like more songs from those years than I usually admit to when I listen to Elvis' music it's normally 1953 - 1966 but that's just me!
I know. We use to chat about that over the phone ages ago. Especially TTWII 1970, where Tom Jones influence is highest, in my opinion. Jones was doing Elvis, while Elvis was doing Jones! :lol:



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Steve Morse wrote:Beautiful performance.

Unfortunately the line, "The dreams I built for us has tumbled", always jars with me.
Very fascinating observation Steve! That bit always made me think the same.




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wwelvis wrote:
Juan Luis wrote:Written by country guitarist Zeb Turner and music publisher Fred Rose. Recorded by Eddy Arnold in 1946 for RCA, and a #1 country hit in 1947 for five weeks. According to Ernst Jorgensen, Elvis in 1954 saw Arnold perform the tune with The Jordaniares backing him. This was the same event Elvis talked to Gordon Stoker about wanting The Jordanaires in words to the effect of working with him in the future.
Eventually Elvis used The Jordanaires to back him with this song, but in my opinion, it stops there. Sounds to me closer to Ivory Joe Hunters version if it needs comparing to anyone at all. Welcome will be, if someone finds another version Elvis might have emulated closer. A beautiful tune recorded by Elvis swiftly in four takes, on March 12, 1961, in Nashville's RCA Studio B. Bill Porter behind the console with Steve Sholes at the helm. Included in the aptly titled "Something For Everybody" album released on June 17 of the same year.
This is Elvis Presley in 1961! Need I say more?

I think Elvis' voice from 1960 - 1966 was THE BEST even though I do love the 50's voice Juan! To me he was trying o be Tom Jones in the 70's and while I do like more songs from those years than I usually admit to when I listen to Elvis' music it's normally 1953 - 1966 but that's just me!
I still like the richness of Elvis' voice in the early seventies. Nevertheless, your point is well taken. Elvis' voice was amazing from 1960-1966 as you suggest.

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