"A World Of Our Own"

[rickeap]

Average at best. Elvis deserved a lot better.

[jurasic1968]

Right.

[r&b]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

[Juan Luis]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs that many of us have played to no end. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

[r&b]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I was part of your grp a long time ago & did enjoy it, all of it, and as Ive grown up, Ive come to see them for what they are. The songs were bad, some very bad. I do enjoy these songs more than rap music, hip-hop, & heavy metal, if that means anything, so I may come back to your grp one day, who knows. But to me, they dont compare to what many artists were doing at the time, and certainly not to what came to our shores in 1964. I have really come to despise the way The Col handled things after the Army. Elvis should have been cutting quality albums like Ray Charles, The Everly Bros., Gene Vincent, Sam Cooke and others. Yeah they were not all great sellers(something that seems to be very important here), in fact some bombed, but Id rather play them today than the Worlds Fair album and most soundtracks. Its my reality.

[Juan Luis]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I was part of your grp a long time ago & did enjoy it, all of it, and as Ive grown up, Ive come to see them for what they are. The songs were bad, some very bad. I do enjoy these songs more than rap music, hip-hop, & heavy metal, if that means anything, so I may come back to your grp one day, who knows. But to me, they dont compare to what many artists were doing at the time, and certainly not to what came to our shores in 1964. I have really come to despise the way The Col handled things after the Army. Elvis should have been cutting quality albums like Ray Charles, The Everly Bros., Gene Vincent, Sam Cooke and others. Yeah they were not all great sellers(something that seems to be very important here), in fact some bombed, but Id rather play them today than the Worlds Fair album and most soundtracks. Its my reality.

Some of these ditties I have discovered by chance without (gasp) even knowing what album they came from or exact year. Oh man! This song came from an unpopular soundtrack. I did not know that before. So what the heck. I enjoy it, and let it be until I stumble upon another! This will end for me one day. But I am sure happy and grateful to enjoy by discovering or rediscovering, "new" for me Elvis music! Great not to be an "expert" in some areas! And I am proud to admit it.

[r&b]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I was part of your grp a long time ago & did enjoy it, all of it, and as Ive grown up, Ive come to see them for what they are. The songs were bad, some very bad. I do enjoy these songs more than rap music, hip-hop, & heavy metal, if that means anything, so I may come back to your grp one day, who knows. But to me, they dont compare to what many artists were doing at the time, and certainly not to what came to our shores in 1964. I have really come to despise the way The Col handled things after the Army. Elvis should have been cutting quality albums like Ray Charles, The Everly Bros., Gene Vincent, Sam Cooke and others. Yeah they were not all great sellers(something that seems to be very important here), in fact some bombed, but Id rather play them today than the Worlds Fair album and most soundtracks. Its my reality.

Some of these ditties I have discovered by chance without (gasp) even knowing what album they came from or exact year. Oh man. This song came from an unpopular soundtrack. I did not know that before. So hell. I enjoy it, and let it be until I stumble upon another! This will end for me one day. But I am sure happy and grateful to enjoy by discovering or rediscovering, "new" for me Elvis music! Great not to be an "expert" in some areas! And I am proud to admit it.

Thats cool. As Sly sang, different strokes for different folks. (and also different generations)

[emjel]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs that many of us have played to no end. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I do not think you will ever get all fans to like all of the songs that he recorded. Personally I like the majority with many a lot more than others. Even the poorer songs I will still listen to as an album plays through, but there is one song that springs to mind that I do tend to hit the Next button and that is Hey Jude. It is not that the actual song is poor but Elvis' version where he clearly struggles and forgets the lyrics too by repeating the same verses.
The important thing is being able to know the difference between a song that you might like and the fact that it is a poor song especially by Elvis' standards. Simply elevating poor songs to the status of "great" or "classic" is where conflicts arise.

[Juan Luis]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs that many of us have played to no end. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I do not think you will ever get all fans to like all of the songs that he recorded. Personally I like the majority with many a lot more than others. Even the poorer songs I will still listen to as an album plays through, but there is one song that springs to mind that I do tend to hit the Next button and that is Hey Jude. It is not that the actual song is poor but Elvis' version where he clearly struggles and forgets the lyrics too by repeating the same verses.
The important thing is being able to know the difference between a song that you might like and the fact that it is a poor song especially by Elvis' standards. Simply elevating poor songs to the status of "great" or "classic" is where conflicts arise.

Show where this has been done. That's a valid argument if it existed. However, going to all the trouble of telling us how bad bla bla bla is very telling. Once or twice is not enough to argue against enjoying lesser non-classic songs? Right there!

[emjel]

Right.

Elvis deserved a lot better but didnt do much about it other than complain to Priscilla and some MM members, who I am sure agreed with him.

Whether Elvis "deserved a lot better" or not. We can enjoy these very nice ditties while our minds rest from the "approved" songs that many of us have played to no end. I do. And I'm sure I am not alone. I hope someday you'll join us. And the Elvis world will be as one!

I do not think you will ever get all fans to like all of the songs that he recorded. Personally I like the majority with many a lot more than others. Even the poorer songs I will still listen to as an album plays through, but there is one song that springs to mind that I do tend to hit the Next button and that is Hey Jude. It is not that the actual song is poor but Elvis' version where he clearly struggles and forgets the lyrics too by repeating the same verses.
The important thing is being able to know the difference between a song that you might like and the fact that it is a poor song especially by Elvis' standards. Simply elevating poor songs to the status of "great" or "classic" is where conflicts arise.

Show where this has been done. That's a valid argument if it existed. However, going to all the trouble of telling us how bad bla bla bla is very telling. Once or twice is not enough to argue against enjoying lesser non-classic songs? Right there!

I'm generalising on those points. You know as well as I do that there is a certain member on this forum that will elevate any poor recordings by Elvis to the status I have mentioned. And he has a little band of followers. As I said, you can like a song but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

On another current thread, someone has posted a stream of album cover shots to show how many albums Way Down was on. How desperate do people need to be to try and prove some kind of point. You need to understand that every time someone repeatedly says that a poor song is "great" you will get someone else or a realist argue that it is not. This is the difference in being a realist and someone who views Elvis' career in a somewhat obsessive way or via the proverbial "rise coloured glasses". I'm pleased you like a lot of the soundtrack songs - I do too, but I recognise that they are not as good or as strong as the songs that Elvis did between '56-'62 and '69-'70.

[goldbelt]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.

Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

[MikeFromHolland]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.

Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

Very good post! Agree 100%. I call it hammering the message into our heads .

And I was that person who placed the album covers relating to Way Down. "Nice to know" I wrote. Had the impression some didn't. That's all. No thank you for the information, but attempts to insult only. Emjel, please grow up. C'mon.

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[MikeFromHolland]

@Scarre; your rudeness is unbelievable. Are you deliberately trying to miss r&b's point?

I can fully understand r&b's point and I fully agree as well. This song is at best a middle of the road movie ballad. This does not have to be a bad thing but I am sure songs like these were a disappointment when you grew up with Elvis. It must have been frustrating to hear him do songs like these when you knew he could do so much more (and better!). Even I (born in 1974) feel that frustration. For every World Of Our Own there could have been an It Hurts Me.
These typical movie songs are not harmless; they did destroy his (rock)credibility (much like those ballad A sides in the early 1970s).

Rudeness? Elaborate, please. I think a great voice is a big deal. I also believe that there is nothing wrong just because Mom likes a certain album. And as I said...he wanted to be a crooner.
The biggest problem some members here have...and I'm not talking about the soundtracks, is the style of music he chose to record. 45 years later it still seems to hurt that he didn't play much rock'n'roll after the 50's. He followed his "music" heart, and I'm glad he did.

Me too! He said he sung all kinds, and he did. From the beginning to the end. Fortunately.

[emjel]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.

Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

No different to those that continue to elevate sub standard tracks to the position of "great song" or "global smash hit". One has to wonder why they need to continually try to boost the merits of a song that are simply not there. You are entitled to like any song you choose but that does not automatically make it a classic. If you like Long Legged Girl, good for you but it isn't A Big Hunk Of Love as an example.
Oh and News Just In. If Elvis has ten Number 1 hits in a row and then suddenly only starts just getting into the Top 20 or Top 30 for the next few years, it doesn't take a genius to realise or accept that something is not as good as it was. Simples really.

[goldbelt]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

[emjel]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

[emjel]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.

Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

Very good post! Agree 100%. I call it hammering the message into our heads .

And I was that person who placed the album covers relating to Way Down. "Nice to know" I wrote. Had the impression some didn't. That's all. No thank you for the information, but attempts to insult only. Emjel, please grow up. C'mon.

.

I know it was you Mike and I was genuinely surprised that you went through all of that to try and disprove something that The Doc said. So I don't think it's a case of growing up but just trying to understand why anyone would want to go to those lengths and also ask people to add further sleeves too. And apart from a certain person who jumped up on the back of that info that you supplied and gave you a pat on the back, is anyone else really bothered if Way Down appears on two albums or twenty two albums including the one that is coming out in August. You know as well as I do that this song was a big seller due to what happened on 16.08.77. And because of that, it's going to get included on some hit compilations along with Hound Dog and Its Now or Never etc. But if it wasn't for that tragic event back then, it's doubtful it would have been the hit it was and get included in favour of something else.

[goldbelt]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.

Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

No different to those that continue to elevate sub standard tracks to the position of "great song" or "global smash hit". One has to wonder why they need to continually try to boost the merits of a song that are simply not there. You are entitled to like any song you choose but that does not automatically make it a classic. If you like Long Legged Girl, good for you but it isn't A Big Hunk Of Love as an example.
Oh and News Just In. If Elvis has ten Number 1 hits in a row and then suddenly only starts just getting into the Top 20 or Top 30 for the next few years, it doesn't take a genius to realise or accept that something is not as good as it was. Simples really.

Much of what you mention there is usually either offered in order to correct inaccuracies, or not even claimed in the first place.

Here's the difference.

It's fresh perspectives and sharing of information on different songs V's the same old points being repeated over and over, no matter what the song is.

Some display a seemingly incessant need to grade and label every performance, together with a disapproval of those that don't.

You can assume most of the contributors to these topics are aware of Elvis' career highs and lows - there's no need to spell it out over and over again.

Most appreciate the subjectivity in music and are interested in discussing elements in performances they enjoy that go beyond Long Legged Girl isn't A Big Hunk O' Love.

[goldbelt]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

It should be pretty clear that if someone says ............

'here's a soundtrack song from 1965 I like"

they shouldn't need to add ..................

"don't forget though, even though I like it, Elvis was at his least creative in this period, and The fab four were big in America and Pet Sounds was out, and if only he'd been in Sound Of Music that year because it won an Oscar and he should have been singing better material cause, not only was he The King, but I doubt anyone wanted to dance to 'A House Of Sand' at parties".

[Johnny2523]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

It should be pretty clear that if someone says ............

'here's a soundtrack song from 1965 I like"

they shouldn't need to add ..................

"don't forget though, even though I like it, Elvis was at his least creative in this period, and The fab four were big in America and Pet Sounds was out, and if only he'd been in Sound Of Music that year because it won an Oscar and he should have been singing better material cause I doubt anyone wanted to dance to 'A House Of Sand' at parties".

I like a house of sand especially take 3

[goldbelt]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

It should be pretty clear that if someone says ............

'here's a soundtrack song from 1965 I like"

they shouldn't need to add ..................

"don't forget though, even though I like it, Elvis was at his least creative in this period, and The fab four were big in America and Pet Sounds was out, and if only he'd been in Sound Of Music that year because it won an Oscar and he should have been singing better material cause I doubt anyone wanted to dance to 'A House Of Sand' at parties".

I like a house of sand especially take 3

But, 'A House Of Sand' is an empty work of art!

Just remember all the great art that was coming out that year

[emjel]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.


Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

No different to those that continue to elevate sub standard tracks to the position of "great song" or "global smash hit". One has to wonder why they need to continually try to boost the merits of a song that are simply not there. You are entitled to like any song you choose but that does not automatically make it a classic. If you like Long Legged Girl, good for you but it isn't A Big Hunk Of Love as an example.
Oh and News Just In. If Elvis has ten Number 1 hits in a row and then suddenly only starts just getting into the Top 20 or Top 30 for the next few years, it doesn't take a genius to realise or accept that something is not as good as it was. Simples really.

Much of what you mention there is usually either offered in order to correct inaccuracies, or not even claimed in the first place.

Here's the difference.

It's fresh perspectives and sharing of information on different songs V's the same old points being repeated over and over, no matter what the song is.

Some display a seemingly incessant need to grade and label every performance, together with a disapproval of those that don't.

You can assume most of the contributors to these topics are aware of Elvis' career highs and lows - there's no need to spell it out over and over again.

Most appreciate the subjectivity in music and are interested in discussing elements in performances they enjoy that go beyond Long Legged Girl isn't A Big Hunk O' Love.

We are just going around in circles here. You can drill right down into the recordings of, as an example, Do The Clam or Long Legged Girl or Queenie Waheenie if you wish and discuss what you like about them until the cows come home. No problem. Others will say they do not like those songs for whatever reason. Even Elvis thought they were rubbish, but he had to do them for the movies. But there are some on here that will have you believe that they are Classics or Global Smash hits etc simply because they cannot accept that there were low points in Elvis' recording career or stage shows.

[emjel]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

It should be pretty clear that if someone says ............

'here's a soundtrack song from 1965 I like"

they shouldn't need to add ..................

"don't forget though, even though I like it, Elvis was at his least creative in this period, and The fab four were big in America and Pet Sounds was out, and if only he'd been in Sound Of Music that year because it won an Oscar and he should have been singing better material cause, not only was he The King, but I doubt anyone wanted to dance to 'A House Of Sand' at parties".

No they do not need to say all that. And if you simply said you liked a song as you felt it had a good tempo or Elvis' voice was really good, then many would accept that. It's when people try to elevate a song that only charted at number 25 and try to make out that it is a complete smash hit that you will find others disputing that claim.

[goldbelt]

Not very keen on this track, Juan ............ do like some others on the album though.

You might get fed up with people complaining about a certain song, but likewise, those who do recognise a song as being sub standard or poor, get fed up with continually reading how great a song is, when clearly it is not.

A certain song!?

It's the complaining about practically EVERY song that wasn't critically acclaimed or recorded when Elvis was at or near the top of his game.

The same complaints, by the same few people, topic after topic.


Again and again the 'celebrating mediocrity' or 'rose coloured glasses' nonsense is rolled out - to dismiss the simple fact that some people find elements to enjoy in performances that others don't.

And again, the erroneous point of "reading how great a song is" is made.

News just in - people who like Elvis' music attempting to discuss Elvis music they like on an Elvis discussion forum.

One has to wonder, what exactly they are striving to achieve with the same incessant, repetitious complaints on so many topics.

No different to those that continue to elevate sub standard tracks to the position of "great song" or "global smash hit". One has to wonder why they need to continually try to boost the merits of a song that are simply not there. You are entitled to like any song you choose but that does not automatically make it a classic. If you like Long Legged Girl, good for you but it isn't A Big Hunk Of Love as an example.
Oh and News Just In. If Elvis has ten Number 1 hits in a row and then suddenly only starts just getting into the Top 20 or Top 30 for the next few years, it doesn't take a genius to realise or accept that something is not as good as it was. Simples really.

Much of what you mention there is usually either offered in order to correct inaccuracies, or not even claimed in the first place.

Here's the difference.

It's fresh perspectives and sharing of information on different songs V's the same old points being repeated over and over, no matter what the song is.

Some display a seemingly incessant need to grade and label every performance, together with a disapproval of those that don't.

You can assume most of the contributors to these topics are aware of Elvis' career highs and lows - there's no need to spell it out over and over again.

Most appreciate the subjectivity in music and are interested in discussing elements in performances they enjoy that go beyond Long Legged Girl isn't A Big Hunk O' Love.

We are just going around in circles here. You can drill right down into the recordings of, as an example, Do The Clam or Long Legged Girl or Queenie Waheenie if you wish and discuss what you like about them until the cows come home. No problem. Others will say they do not like those songs for whatever reason. Even Elvis thought they were rubbish, but he had to do them for the movies. But there are some on here that will have you believe that they are Classics or Global Smash hits etc simply because they cannot accept that there were low points in Elvis' recording career or stage shows.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to be taking the points on board, at all.

[Juan Luis]

As I said, you can like a song

As long as you don't want to discuss what you like about it on the forum, right?

Would a disclaimer noting that one appreciates it's position within the overall Elvis legacy, with each post, help?

but that does not mean that it is a brilliant/great/classic song or recording.

Who says otherwise?

Furthermore, why should it matter anyway, as long as you like it?

You can say why you like it for whatever reason you choose. You might like something which I do not. It is all subjective. But as it is a forum, you might find that others want to challenge that opinion. Or are you saying that on an Elvis Forum, we should only discuss how great everything is even though it is not. Even though Elvis thought some of the songs he recorded were poor and he was frustrated by the stuff.
"Who says otherwise" Well just look through a few threads to find certain members continually claiming that everything was hunky dory when in reality, it was not.

It should be pretty clear that if someone says ............

'here's a soundtrack song from 1965 I like"

they shouldn't need to add ..................

"don't forget though, even though I like it, Elvis was at his least creative in this period, and The fab four were big in America and Pet Sounds was out, and if only he'd been in Sound Of Music that year because it won an Oscar and he should have been singing better material cause, not only was he The King, but I doubt anyone wanted to dance to 'A House Of Sand' at parties".

How can anyone enjoy going out for a ride and a song as that comes up and think about that? Two choices. Skip button. Or let it play and enjoy. I did the latter and shared it here. Simples.