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Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.



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Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
Some more info from wikipedia:
One of 25 songs written by Pomus/Shuman for Elvis Presley, "Suspicion" was recorded by Presley on March 19, 1962 in Studio B of RCA's Nashville studio and issued on Presley's album Pot Luck released June 15, 1962. In April 1964, when the Terry Stafford version of "Suspicion" was in the Top Ten of the Billboard Hot 100, the Presley original was given a US single release with "Kiss Me Quick" as the flip, and it was "Kiss Me Quick" which was the favored side, reaching #34 nationally. "Suspicion" peaked at #103.

In Australia "Kiss Me Quick" and "Suspicion" appeared on the chart as a double A-side hit with a #56 peak: the actual format for this Australian release was a four track EP entitled Elvis Sings Kiss Me Quick' which featured "Kiss Me Quick" and "Suspicion" as A-side tracks with a B-side composed of "Sentimental Me" and "I Want You With Me".

"Suspicion" was also issued as a single in several European territories to vie with the Terry Stafford version with the Presley version charting in the Netherlands and the Dutch chart for Belgium with respective peaks of #9 and #6 and also in Norway where its chart peak was #9 and in Denmark where it peaked at #3:[1] in its European single release "Suspicion" featured "It Hurts Me" as B-side.

"Suspicion" would belatedly afford Presley a Top Ten hit in the UK where its December 1976 single release would rise to a peak of #9 on the chart dated February 5, 1977.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicion_(Terry_Stafford_song)


1.Which version you like more and why?

Elvis' he owned the song.

2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.

No idea. But it was in 1964, with Kiss Me Quick on the flip side. And one with It Hurts Me:

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
Some more info from wikipedia:
One of 25 songs written by Pomus/Shuman for Elvis Presley, "Suspicion" was recorded by Presley on March 19, 1962 in Studio B of RCA's Nashville studio and issued on Presley's album Pot Luck released June 15, 1962. In April 1964, when the Terry Stafford version of "Suspicion" was in the Top Ten of the Billboard Hot 100, the Presley original was given a US single release with "Kiss Me Quick" as the flip, and it was "Kiss Me Quick" which was the favored side, reaching #34 nationally. "Suspicion" peaked at #103.

In Australia "Kiss Me Quick" and "Suspicion" appeared on the chart as a double A-side hit with a #56 peak: the actual format for this Australian release was a four track EP entitled Elvis Sings Kiss Me Quick' which featured "Kiss Me Quick" and "Suspicion" as A-side tracks with a B-side composed of "Sentimental Me" and "I Want You With Me".

"Suspicion" was also issued as a single in several European territories to vie with the Terry Stafford version with the Presley version charting in the Netherlands and the Dutch chart for Belgium with respective peaks of #9 and #6 and also in Norway where its chart peak was #9 and in Denmark where it peaked at #3:[1] in its European single release "Suspicion" featured "It Hurts Me" as B-side.

"Suspicion" would belatedly afford Presley a Top Ten hit in the UK where its December 1976 single release would rise to a peak of #9 on the chart dated February 5, 1977.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicion_(Terry_Stafford_song)


1.Which version you like more and why?

Elvis' he owned the song.

2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.

No idea. But it was in 1964, with Kiss Me Quick on the flip side. And one with It Hurts Me:

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And an Australian EP:

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I know it was released in 1964, which was too late.By then ,the sounds and music trends were changing...



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Chucky99 wrote:

I know it was released in 1964
You didn't say so in your OP. Glad you appreciated my reply.

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Well, Elvis could release Suspicion instead of She's Not You in 1962 as an A side. I think it could be a number one hit in 1962.



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In the UK 'Suspicion' / '(It's A) Long Lonely Highway' (RCA 2768) was released Christmas 1976. Reaching number 9 in February 1977 it stayed in the Top 10 for 4 weeks with a 9 week run in the Top 40.

From the forthcoming 'Elvis In Demand' album was stated on the 45 label.

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Hosted by Noel Edmonds, 'Top Of The Pops played the song on 20 Jan 1977 with 'Legs & Co.' providing the dancing.

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Chucky99 wrote:Which version you like more?
I prefer Elvis' version.
Chucky99 wrote:why?
Because it torments my heart.


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I much prefer Elvis' version to Stafford's single.

At one point, Elvis did consider releasing it as a single in the summer of 1962. But, with the plug of Freddy Beinstock, he choose She's Not You coupled with Just Tell Her Jim Said Hello as the single pulled from the March 1962 sessions. As a result, Suspicion was relegated to the Pot Luck LP. RCA rushed the song out as single in early 1964 but by this time Stafford was flying up the charts with it. It was a missed opportunity similar to Wooden Heart in 1961.
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Elvis' version hands down.

Terry sounds like a poor man's Elvis, unfortunately for him.


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What a great song
Funny thing is that i did heard the Stafford version first way back in the late '80 and i love it , still do
Elvis version is outstanding from every point of view
I love both versions and yes i also think that if it was release as a single back in summer 1962 it would be number 1 , or at least top 5


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1. Elvis version is tops
2. Was not released as a single in 1962 because Elvis himself preferred She's Not You instead. One time he erred in judgement.



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Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
You may enjoy a cool topic: http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82586&p=1279527#p1279527, posted by crazy fan Mike Windgren! :smt005. Bye for now :smt006.

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Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
1. Elvis is a better singer than Terry Stafford, and his arrangement is more dramatic, so I prefer the original recording.

That said, Stafford's single (Crusader 101) is very good indeed and well deserved its chart success (Billboard "Hot 100" #3, April 11, 1964, Cash Box "Top 100" #3, April 25, 1964). The success of "Suspicion" also proved that a great studio song in the "classic Elvis style" was still viable at retail despite the "British Invasion." But Presley had abandoned studio work for the next two years, a very, very bad decision for his career.

2. The Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman tune was not chosen by Elvis as the single, he preferred "She's Not You."

I have one question:
1. Do you dance to the fabulous song Suspicion?


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
1. Elvis is a better singer than Terry Stafford, and his arrangement is more dramatic, so I prefer the original recording.

That said, Stafford's single (Crusader 101) is very good indeed and well deserved its chart success (Billboard "Hot 100" #3, April 11, 1964, Cash Box "Top 100" #3, April 25, 1964). The success of "Suspicion" also proved that a great studio song in the "classic Elvis style" was still viable at retail despite the "British Invasion." But Presley had abandoned studio work for the next two years, a very, very bad decision for his career.

2. The Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman tune was not chosen by Elvis as the single, he preferred "She's Not You."

I have one question:
1. Do you dance to the fabulous song Suspicion?
Stafford's Suspicion brings back quite a bittersweet memory for me. In 1963, I was very happy that an Elvis song and an Elvis sounding single was such a smash hit, however I was always bugged when people asked me, how come that guy copied Elvis so much, why didnt Elvis sing this song, etc. No one knew it existed by Elvis outside the fan base of course, and this always perturbed me! Elvis would have had a smash with it. When it was released as a single in 1964, Im like, whats the point of this now?




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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
1. Elvis is a better singer than Terry Stafford, and his arrangement is more dramatic, so I prefer the original recording.

That said, Stafford's single (Crusader 101) is very good indeed and well deserved its chart success (Billboard "Hot 100" #3, April 11, 1964, Cash Box "Top 100" #3, April 25, 1964). The success of "Suspicion" also proved that a great studio song in the "classic Elvis style" was still viable at retail despite the "British Invasion." But Presley had abandoned studio work for the next two years, a very, very bad decision for his career.

2. The Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman tune was not chosen by Elvis as the single, he preferred "She's Not You."

I have one question:
1. Do you dance to the fabulous song Suspicion?
I'd find it very hard to dance to something like Suspicion.




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Elvis' version is a timeless classic, Stafford's is a good novelty song. IMO.



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stevelecher wrote:Elvis' version is a timeless classic, Stafford's is a good novelty song. IMO.
That went to #3 on the pop charts. Not too shabby.


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stevelecher wrote:Elvis' version is a timeless classic, Stafford's is a good novelty song. IMO.
No its a good pop single, a fine recording. A novelty song for that year would be Surfing Bird by The Trashman(another big hit). That is what a novelty song is to me.




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Terry Stafford version is like a novice layman vs a intuative genius.

Elvis simply knows instinctively how to create vocal masterpieces.

How on earth can anyone prefer Mr Stafford's version over Elvis? Elvis' intricate phrasing ,and nuances-pure flawless perfection,otherworldly gifted, on a different level, better still a different planet.

Stafford on the other hand plods sublunary and rather awkwardly through the song with the finesse of oversized heavy pair of steel toecapped working boots.

Respect to Stafford and a top 5 hit but Elvis owned it. ::rocks




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GERRY wrote:Terry Stafford version is like a novice layman vs a intuative genius.

Elvis simply knows instinctively how to create vocal masterpieces.

How on earth can anyone prefer Mr Stafford's version over Elvis?
Elvis' intricate phrasing ,and nuances-pure flawless perfection,otherworldly gifted, on a different level, better still a different planet.

Stafford on the other hand plods sublunary and rather awkwardly through the song with the finesse of oversized heavy pair of steel toecapped working boots.

Respect to Stafford and a top 5 hit but Elvis owned it. ::rocks
I agree with you that Elvis owned it, its just not well known enough.
I dont think anyone on here said that or favors the Stafford version over Elvis. But the general public that was around in 1963 is different. They know and are familiar with the Stafford version, and may prefer it simply because it was the hit version heard way more on the radio, at least in the US. Ive read on here many people here love an Elvis song/album album simply because it brings back good memories, so a person can have have a fond memory of Suspicion by Stafford. Plus not everyone walking the earth would prefer an Elvis version of a certain song. A long time ago I played Suspicion by Elvis to a guy who loved the song and didnt know Elvis recorded it He still preferred Stafford's version. His reason? He liked the girls in the background. it can be as simple as that.



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For reference, here's a thread from the Steve Hoffman(ugh) forum, it's neck and neck
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/suspicion-was-this-the-song-that-got-away-from-elvis.263390/


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drjohncarpenter wrote: But Presley had abandoned studio work for the next two years, a very, very bad decision for his career.
Not really. He remained one of the entertainment industry's top earners during those years and he was back in business creatively once the comeback kicked off in 1966. Shortly thereafter, history was just around the corner. His legacy from 54 - 77 still resonates today.




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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Chucky99 wrote:Hello guys,
Elvis recorded the fabulous song Suspicion in march 1962 and was included in the Pot Luck Album.
The song may be the greatest from this album and I listen to it quite often.
Terry Stradford released another version of this song in 1964 and became a hit.
Personally I like the Elvis version more because of his voice and the song's cool beginning.
I have two questions:
1.Which version you like more and why?
2.Why was not this song released as a single in 1962? It may have reached number 1 position on US charts.
Thanks,Chucky.
1. Elvis is a better singer than Terry Stafford, and his arrangement is more dramatic, so I prefer the original recording.

That said, Stafford's single (Crusader 101) is very good indeed and well deserved its chart success (Billboard "Hot 100" #3, April 11, 1964, Cash Box "Top 100" #3, April 25, 1964). The success of "Suspicion" also proved that a great studio song in the "classic Elvis style" was still viable at retail despite the "British Invasion." But Presley had abandoned studio work for the next two years, a very, very bad decision for his career.

2. The Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman tune was not chosen by Elvis as the single, he preferred "She's Not You."

I have one question:
1. Do you dance to the fabulous song Suspicion?
Do you like to make fun of me?