RUN ON for a long time!

[Juan Luis]

"Run On" is one of my favorite tracks from the 1966 Grammy winning "How Great Thou Art" album.

This was the very first session with his new producer Felton Jarvis, and the very first track recorded. A traditional spiritual, and a classic of the Golden Gate Quartet. These "Jubilee" tradition quartet recordings were introduced to Elvis by his good friend Charles Hodge when they met while serving in the U.S. ARMY. Elvis had great luck meeting the quartet in Paris, and even singing with them backstage (Ernst Jorgensen-A Life In Music) "Swing Down Sweet Chariot" and "Joshua Fit The Battle", songs Presley would later record, even twice in the case of the former. For the 1960 "His Hand In Mine" album, and re-recorded for the 1968 soundtrack session of "The Trouble With Girls" film. Ernst Jorgensen writes - "It was a remarkable updating of traditional Gospel music----tough, powerful even threatening---different from any religious music Elvis had ever recorded. Before they leapt into the final take, Felton made his presence felt, encouraging them to "swing". and swing they did."

"How Great Though Art" is my second favorite Elvis Gospel album of the three. My favorite being "His Hand In Mine". Nevertheless, I like all of the tracks with standouts for me "Stand By Me" , "Where Could I Go But To The Lord" (reprised in the 1968 TV special Gospel medley), "Where No One Stands Alone" (Feb 1977 only known live recording and performance), and of course the album classic title track "How Great Thou Art" (a 1970's concert favorite and 1974 Grammy performance award as well). In my opinion, Elvis in 1966 by recording and receiving recognition, regained confidence with the very music he loved so passionately. The coming 1967 year proved to be very good with the start of the pre-comeback singles, with the needed focus only increasing for what was destined to becoming fulfilled very soon after.
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[Fabbe]

Elvis sings it well - but the original has something...

[JimmyCool]

This is my favorite track from that session, along with the beautiful "Stand By Me."
I'm glad the song was included on the "Artist Of The Century" box-set, back in 1999...

[elvisalisellers]

Maybe the RPO can work their magic on it in the not too distant future.

[Dan_T]

My fav track from that session too !

[TINML]

It's a brilliant gem, a home run for all involved

[Eap3577]

Great song and one of the best on the album. Johnny Cash did a good version in his American sessions as well.

[Juan Luis]

Great song and one of the best on the album. Johnny Cash did a good version in his American sessions as well.

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"God's Gonna Cut You Down", (You Better) Run On", and "Run On for a Long time" are all alternate titles for this traditional spiritual " Trad. arranged By Elvis Presley" credit used for publishing reasons when it comes to Public Domain works recorded by him.

[Matthew]

You're reaching big time trying to assign credit for the success of Elvis' 1966 Gospel sessions in any meaningful way to Felton.

Really.

This is all Elvis.

[midnightx]

You're reaching big time trying to assign credit for the success of Elvis' 1966 Gospel sessions in any meaningful way to Felton.

Really.

This is all Elvis.

This ongoing storm of pro-Felton propaganda by Juan is clearly out of control. How many threads does that man need dedicated to him? There have been fans on this site over the years who have spoken out in support of Jarvis feeling as though the embattled producer does not receive his due, but Juan's obsession with the man and his erratic body of work with Elvis is a bit troubling week after week.

[Juan Luis]

You're reaching big time trying to assign credit for the success of Elvis' 1966 Gospel sessions in any meaningful way to Felton.

Really.

This is all Elvis.

And a good producer would see that. You think "producing" is ALWAYS just about giving orders and musical ideas? It is letting the artist do his thing and get out of his way and help when needed. And yes cheer him on. This is what happened here. Ask Ernst Jorgensen. What do you think Rick Rubin did with Cash? Basically stuck a mic to his mouth and guitar and let him rip! Let him do his thing. And only later EDIT. That's why so much came after Cash died. And with songs like the title of this thread, was down Felton's alley. I recommend everyone to read A Life In Music by Ernst Jorgensen. He nails for the most part Elvis and his music, and ALL his producers in a fair, honest fashion, in my opinion.

[Matthew]

What do you think Rick Rubin did with Cash?

I have to take a moment here and pause, breath, and highlight that Felton Jarvis just got compared to Rick Rubin.

As for the rest of the nonsense about Rubin's work with Cash... ouch.

[poormadpeter]

" Trad. arranged By Elvis Presley" credit used for publishing reasons when it comes to Public Domain works recorded by him.

You've been listening to our friend the doctor too much. There is no reason why the "trad, arr. Elvis Presley" is incorrect or in any way underhand or for publishing reasons.

It IS a traditional song and it IS arranged by Elvis Presley. Just like See See Rider.

[vinelvis]

I really like this song too. My favorite song of the session.

[Juan Luis]

" Trad. arranged By Elvis Presley" credit used for publishing reasons when it comes to Public Domain works recorded by him.

You've been listening to our friend the doctor too much. There is no reason why the "trad, arr. Elvis Presley" is incorrect or in any way underhand or for publishing reasons.

It IS a traditional song and it IS arranged by Elvis Presley. Just like See See Rider.

Ok. There has to be a label/credit for the publishing of public domain material. And that was the one that was used regardless of who really arranged it. That's the only way Elvis' music publishers would get payed with sales of the record. Makes sense using Elvis' name. Composed by=Arranged by *** when it came to royalty payments. Feel free to correct me.

[poormadpeter]

" Trad. arranged By Elvis Presley" credit used for publishing reasons when it comes to Public Domain works recorded by him.

You've been listening to our friend the doctor too much. There is no reason why the "trad, arr. Elvis Presley" is incorrect or in any way underhand or for publishing reasons.

It IS a traditional song and it IS arranged by Elvis Presley. Just like See See Rider.

Ok. There has to be a label/credit for the publishing of public domain material. And that was the one that was used regardless of who really arranged it. That's the only way Elvis' music publishers would get payed with sales of the record. Makes sense using Elvis' name. Composed by=Arranged by *** when it came to royalty payments. Feel free to correct me.

Elvis did arrange it. Listen to the session! And look at other records by other people. If the singer arranged it, then they get a credit. Because they deserve one. If Nelson Riddle arranged a song for Sinatra, he got a credit too.

[Matthew]

Perhaps it should say "Trad. Arranged by F. Jarvis".

[Juan Luis]

" Trad. arranged By Elvis Presley" credit used for publishing reasons when it comes to Public Domain works recorded by him.

You've been listening to our friend the doctor too much. There is no reason why the "trad, arr. Elvis Presley" is incorrect or in any way underhand or for publishing reasons.

It IS a traditional song and it IS arranged by Elvis Presley. Just like See See Rider.

Ok. There has to be a label/credit for the publishing of public domain material. And that was the one that was used regardless of who really arranged it. That's the only way Elvis' music publishers would get payed with sales of the record. Makes sense using Elvis' name. Composed by=Arranged by *** when it came to royalty payments. Feel free to correct me.

Elvis did arrange it. Listen to the session! And look at other records by other people. If the singer arranged it, then they get a credit. Because they deserve one. If Nelson Riddle arranged a song for Sinatra, he got a credit too.

In this case so Elvis arranged it. But for getting publishing it has to have a name. And an arranger as Riddle would get paid regardless of the publishing. Get it? This title true or not, was for the checks for royalties of the publishing. Elvis arranged a lot in 1950's and didn't get the arrangement credit. Why? Cause the publishing was through composers and via Bienstock/ Hill and Range etc. This is the same case, it just needed a title since it would be blank where the composers credit would be. The "arranger" is the "composer" for this Public domain song. And I never implied it was underhand. Perfectly legal for public domain songs. Can't use a composer credit. So stick in an arranged by credit where the composer name usually is under the title and get the royalties. Same thing in the end, for the pay checks.

[RKSNASHVILLE]

To get back on topic - Great topic of a great gospel song.

Juan Luis - Thanks for posting the original version by the Golden Gate Quartet. I love listening to the originals of what Elvis was listening to.

Interesting how closely Elvis followed the original arrangement!

Is there a zippyshare of this recording?


Thanks,
RKS

[Juan Luis]

To get back on topic - Great topic of a great gospel song.

Juan Luis - Thanks for posting the original version by the Golden Gate Quartet. I love listening to the originals of what Elvis was listening to.

Interesting how closely Elvis followed the original arrangement!

Is there a zippyshare of this recording?


Thanks,
RKS

You're welcome! I just found it on youtube. Anyone out there feel free to zippy it! Yes. The arrangement is pretty close albeit with Elvis "nervousness" added to the excitement and "remarkable updating of traditional Gospel music" as stated by Jorgensen.

[Juan Luis]

What do you think Rick Rubin did with Cash?

I have to take a moment here and pause, breath, and highlight that Felton Jarvis just got compared to Rick Rubin.

As for the rest of the nonsense about Rubin's work with Cash... ouch.

Felton did the same with the piano recordings albeit extremely short one-of session. Basically recorded them. And Rubin with Cash and the guitar. It's ALL Cash really. Nothing new under the sun.

[elvisalisellers]

What do you think Rick Rubin did with Cash?

I have to take a moment here and pause, breath, and highlight that Felton Jarvis just got compared to Rick Rubin.

As for the rest of the nonsense about Rubin's work with Cash... ouch.

Felton did the same with the piano recordings. Basically recorded them.

"Someone will dig that, man."

[Eggrert]

HGTA is my least favourite of the gospel albums, though I do like Run On. The version on the FTD of the same name has the edge over the master, imo.

[fn2drive]

I'll simply say that Juan and i finally agree on something-this is my go to track on the album. Where we part company is that Jarvis had little to do with the success of this session. This music inspired Elvis in the Peace in the Valley, Crying in the Chapel, His Hand in Mine and HGTA sessions. Only in the He Touched Me Sessions was he generally lifeless. Chalk that up to his personal problems, uninspired producer and awful song choices made available by his music team. Indeed He Touched Me is the biggest let down of his career because of lack of interest in the music that once most inspired him. But Run On is pure exuberance.

[norrie]

Run On is a cracking gospel performance by Elvis and the Jordanaires or the Imperials or both ? I've got A Life In Music but for the life of me I can't find it.

norrie