Fair enough. Whatever the true number of sales me be for the budget version, I think it is reasonable to add an extra million of lost shipments/sales after Presley’s passing in 77.emjel wrote:But it is wrong to simply say that Elvis’ Christmas album has sold 20 million copies worldwide because it has not.
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RIAA has a rule that if a certain % or more of the track list on a reissue differs from the original release it is counted as a different album.emjel wrote:I’m not denying that every Christmas, the music sells or these days, it seems streaming is the preferred option.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:56 amBut the point is more that it sells and sells and sells.emjel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:54 amBut the point is that it is not 20 million on just the original album that was released in 1957. The 20 million is basically distorted - almost a manipulated total from a couple of re-issues - an original album that went from being a full priced album to a budget album with a few different tracks, different artwork and also at one point, even a different title. And the budget re-issue might be the first Elvis album to attain Diamond status, but the word "first" implies there were others, yet as far as I am aware, there were not others - so in that case, it is the only one to do so.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:43 amhonor to whom honor is due:
According to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), Elvis' Christmas Album along with its reissues has shipped at least 17 million copies in the United States. It is the first Presley title to attain Diamond certification by the RIAA, and is also the best-selling Christmas album of all time in the United States. With total sales of more 20 million copies worldwide, it remains the world's best-selling Christmas album.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis%27_Christmas_Album
1. Elvis Presley – Elvis’ Christmas Album
Sold: 2o million
Head and shoulders above the rest, Elvis Presley almost triples the sales of the Kenny G. In 1957 It should a more tender side to the King when the public thought he would do something outrageous.
It was the first time Elvis tackled anything remotely resembling a concept album, with Blue Christmas going down as one of the most recognisable holiday tunes ever.
https://happymag.tv/here-are-the-top-selling-christmas-albums-of-all-time/
It happens all the time, that they bring out special editions and variations of great selling albums, because of selling more and more of the same product.
And I’m not denying and nobody’s is that the original 1957 album went on to sell 4 million world wide or that the budget album from 1970 with a slightly different track list, different artwork and much lower price has sold around 12 million worldwide. Nor that It’s Christmas Time has sold very well in the US and that the current incarnation called The Classic Christmas album which includes tracks from the second Christmas album continues to sell, or rather gets streamed, just as every other artists Christmas albums do every year - it’s not unique to Elvis. But it is wrong to simply say that Elvis’ Christmas album has sold 20 million copies worldwide because it has not.
Now you might assume that had the original album been kept on catalogue, that it would have gone on to sell in the number you quote, because we know you have the need or desire for that, but there are no guarantees especially if the price was kept at the normal full price. Take a look at the fiasco with the Frankie and Johnny album from 1966. It is noted that the album has sold a million copies and certified platinum but it is not just from the 1966 release but also the sales of the Pickwick budget version from 10 years later that have generated those total sales - around 400k from the ‘66 release and 600k from the budget release, and the awards should show that separately instead of combining them.
I can’t remember the % number, but the 1957 Christmas LP and the 1970 reissue had about a 50% difference, therefore they are counted separately. Frankie and Johnny’s changes amounts to 25%, not meeting the % that would force the original issue and reissue to be counted separately by RIAA.
The same can be said for the legacy reissues on the main label. The 1956 debut album “Elvis Presley” contains both that album and “Elvis”. “Elvis Is Back” contains “Something for Everybody”, “Elvis Country” contains “Love letters From Elvis”. All these releases, their sales are counted by RIAA as new titles, their sales numbers aren’t added to the original album totals.
The same happened when bonus tracks were added to the original albums in 1997-1998, they became new titles in RIAA’s rules.
I’ve not read anything to say this was ever reversed.
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Elvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very close to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
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In the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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In the american charts it´s the albums GI Blues, Blue Hawaii, E1, Aloha and The Essential Elvis Presley album that were one year or longer in the charts. Maybe there are more?Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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US BILLBOARD HOT 100 : "BLUE CHRISTMAS" : #27(41) AND A NEW PEAK POS. !
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Another week with 2 albums in the Billboard 200 album charts
Elvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 31 in its 54. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is now # 146 from last week # 174 and is now 101 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Elvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 31 in its 54. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is now # 146 from last week # 174 and is now 101 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
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They were late pubisihing their charts. But that is great news, especially "Blue Christmas" which becomes another Top 40 hit. This is what this weeks's Ask Billboard's section inside the Chart Beat article at Billboard says.And I quote
"First, in another highlight on the newest Hot 100, Elvis Presley‘s “Blue Christmas” bounds 41-27, a new high for his 1957 classic. The King posts his highest rank since the chart dated Jan. 7, 1978 – a day shy of what would’ve been his 43rd birthday – when “My Way” held at No. 22" Unquote
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For all who like to know, I found that list of hits that Elvis had in Germany. I do not know if the list is complete:
1956 Heartbreak Hotel 12
1956 Don't Be Cruel 12
1957 Tutti Frutti 9
1957 Love Me Tender 16
1957 All Shook Up 16
1958 Jailhouse Rock 10
1958 Don't 17
1959 I Need Your Love Tonight 15
1960 Stuck On You 23
1960 It's Now Or Never 2
1960 Wooden Heart 2
1961 Are You Lonesome Tonight 4
1961 Surrender 6
1961 I Feel So Bad 19
1961 Wild In The Country 24
1961 Little Sister 25
1961 His Latest Flame 34
1961 Rock-A-Hula Baby 26
1962 Can't Help Falling In Love 22
1962 Good Luck Charm 6
1962 No More / Sentimental Me 12
1962 She's Not You 15
1962 King Of The Whole Wide World 26
1962 Return To Sender 15
1963 One Broken Heart For Sale 23
1963 Kiss Me Quick 3
1963 Devil In Disguise 2
1963 Bossa Nova Baby 12
1964 Mexico 23
1964 Viva Las Vegas 21
1964 Kissin Cousins 27
1964 Such A Night 40
1965 Crying In The Chapel 23
1969 In The Ghetto 1
1969 Suspicious Minds 7
1970 Don't Cry Daddy 14
1970 Kentucky Rain 40
1970 I've Lost You / The Next Step Is Love 40
1972 Burning Love 31
1976 In The Ghetto (Re-release) 39
1977 Way Down 5
1977 Love Me Tender (Re-release) 40
1977 Way Down (Re-release) 15
1980 Are You Lonesome Tonight? (Laughing Version) 27
1981 Guitar Man (Remix) 12
2002 A Little Less Conversation (Remix) 10
1956 Heartbreak Hotel 12
1956 Don't Be Cruel 12
1957 Tutti Frutti 9
1957 Love Me Tender 16
1957 All Shook Up 16
1958 Jailhouse Rock 10
1958 Don't 17
1959 I Need Your Love Tonight 15
1960 Stuck On You 23
1960 It's Now Or Never 2
1960 Wooden Heart 2
1961 Are You Lonesome Tonight 4
1961 Surrender 6
1961 I Feel So Bad 19
1961 Wild In The Country 24
1961 Little Sister 25
1961 His Latest Flame 34
1961 Rock-A-Hula Baby 26
1962 Can't Help Falling In Love 22
1962 Good Luck Charm 6
1962 No More / Sentimental Me 12
1962 She's Not You 15
1962 King Of The Whole Wide World 26
1962 Return To Sender 15
1963 One Broken Heart For Sale 23
1963 Kiss Me Quick 3
1963 Devil In Disguise 2
1963 Bossa Nova Baby 12
1964 Mexico 23
1964 Viva Las Vegas 21
1964 Kissin Cousins 27
1964 Such A Night 40
1965 Crying In The Chapel 23
1969 In The Ghetto 1
1969 Suspicious Minds 7
1970 Don't Cry Daddy 14
1970 Kentucky Rain 40
1970 I've Lost You / The Next Step Is Love 40
1972 Burning Love 31
1976 In The Ghetto (Re-release) 39
1977 Way Down 5
1977 Love Me Tender (Re-release) 40
1977 Way Down (Re-release) 15
1980 Are You Lonesome Tonight? (Laughing Version) 27
1981 Guitar Man (Remix) 12
2002 A Little Less Conversation (Remix) 10
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The 60 highest placed Elvis on Swedish charts (Högsta Placering= Highest Ranking):
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Norwegian Hits (Høyeste plassering nr= Highest position no, uker= weeks):
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Nice to see Elvis made the Dutch Album Top 20 : #16 (44) Elvis' Christmas Album
and 2 singles on the Dutch Singles 100 :
#44 (73) Blue Christmas
#69 (--) Here Comes Santa Claus
#44 (73) Blue Christmas
#69 (--) Here Comes Santa Claus
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Blue Christmas up to 56 in UK singles chart and 30 Number One Hits up to 31 in album charts.
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Official UK Biggest Albums of the Year 2022 :
#28. Elvis Presley Elv1S 30 #1 Hits ( 123,200 estim. sales ) ( total estim. sales : 2,084,000 ) ( OCC / Haven )
#28. Elvis Presley Elv1S 30 #1 Hits ( 123,200 estim. sales ) ( total estim. sales : 2,084,000 ) ( OCC / Haven )
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BILLBOARD CHARTS : NEW PEAKS FOR SINGLE AND ALBUM
and #145(146) "Essential Elvis"
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The album did not re-enter the Billboard chart after he died. The only albums that charted were Moody Blue, Welcome To My World, a couple of the Gold Record albums, A legendary Performer and 50 Worldwide Hits.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very close to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
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My records show that GI Blues did re-enter the charts for 8 weeks in Sept/October 1977 and then two more weeks in August 1980 making it a total of 65 weeks.Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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Do we also can ad some week's to the 111 weeks on the USA charts, because of 1977?emjel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:33 pmMy records show that GI Blues did re-enter the charts for 8 weeks in Sept/October 1977 and then two more weeks in August 1980 making it a total of 65 weeks.Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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I'll have a goosey at that, wasn't aware of a run of 8 weeks in 77. Thanks.emjel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:33 pmMy records show that GI Blues did re-enter the charts for 8 weeks in Sept/October 1977 and then two more weeks in August 1980 making it a total of 65 weeks.Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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Yes You are right there have been about 7 albums at the same time in the main billboard album charts in 1977, but I could not find GI Blues album.emjel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:24 pmThe album did not re-enter the Billboard chart after he died. The only albums that charted were Moody Blue, Welcome To My World, a couple of the Gold Record albums, A legendary Performer and 50 Worldwide Hits.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very close to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
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No because as I wrote elsewhere, apart from Moody Blue, the other 5 albums that charted on Billboard were compilations and apart from Moody Blue, none made the Top 50 as re-entries.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:28 pmDo we also can ad some week's to the 111 weeks on the USA charts, because of 1977?emjel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:33 pmMy records show that GI Blues did re-enter the charts for 8 weeks in Sept/October 1977 and then two more weeks in August 1980 making it a total of 65 weeks.Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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Elvis’ Golden Records (65 weeks)TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:15 pmIn the american charts it´s the albums GI Blues, Blue Hawaii, E1, Aloha and The Essential Elvis Presley album that were one year or longer in the charts. Maybe there are more?Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
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cool, thank Youminkahed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:13 amElvis’ Golden Records (65 weeks)TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:15 pmIn the american charts it´s the albums GI Blues, Blue Hawaii, E1, Aloha and The Essential Elvis Presley album that were one year or longer in the charts. Maybe there are more?Alan_K wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:46 pmIn the UK Elvis' best album re longevity in his lifetime (plus the boom bit after he died) was Blue Hawaii, then G.I. Blues.TheKingOfMusicEP wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:57 pmElvis Presley The Classic Christmas Album is now # 29 and very clos to his best postion of 28 in its 53. week!
The Essential Elvis Presley album is again # 174 and is now 100 weeks on the Billboard 200 album charts!
Even when it is controverse when ever this album get into the chart E1 album went out?
But it is their counting, let´s celebrate
That give me the questoin does anyone have an update number of all Elvis Album that have been on the album charts for one year and above?
It is said that the album GI Blues stayed for 111 weeks in the charts, but did they also count the weeks of 1977 when this and many other albums went back to the charts?
The re-issues in the 1970's weren't an issue as they didn't chart in the UK.
Blue Hawaii did a continuous 58 week run.
G.I. Blues did 55 weeks made up of 50 weeks on the chart then 5 weeks off the chart then back for 5 more weeks on the chart.
Elvis Is Back (56 weeks)