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Friends,

There is a new Elvis book to be published on the 1st November 2018. The book is titled “Letters From Elvis”.
There is a facebook page set up:

https://www.facebook.com/LettersFromElvis/

This book is derived from letters written by Elvis (which have been independantly authenticated) which reveal his personal life and tragic events that have never been written of previously.
These events shed new light on Elvis’ personal life.

Have a look at the facebook pageand see what you think...




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I take it this is it?



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Yes, that is the one.....



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Scoobie on Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:51 am wrote:Friends,

There is a new Elvis book to be published on the 1st November 2018. The book is titled “Letters From Elvis”.
There is a facebook page set up:

https://www.facebook.com/LettersFromElvis/

This book is derived from letters written by Elvis (which have been independantly authenticated) which reveal his personal life and tragic events that have never been written of previously.
These events shed new light on Elvis’ personal life.

Have a look at the facebook pageand see what you think...
elvis4life on Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:41 am wrote:I take it this is it? https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Elvis-Shocking-Revelations-Confidante/dp/099873196X/

The author is a guy named Gary Lindberg. It looks like he's worked in various capacities in Hollywood, although his IMDb page is scant.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0511364/


After searching around, although we know Elvis' spiritual pursuits went well beyond his Pentecostal upbringing, it feels like the work offers unverifiable claims at best.

The Presley letters, 65 in number, are supposed to be ones he wrote by hand between 1966 and 1972, and sent to a spiritual advisor in California named Carmen Montez.

Montez apparently worked in the "Hollywood film industry" until an "accident" pushed her into another, more spiritual direction. She is supposed to have been ordained a minister at a small, San Leandro, CA church, although the site today, now in nearby San Jose, does not mention her:

Universal Church of the Master
https://www.u-c-m.org/

By all accounts, Presley was not a huge letter-writer. To imagine he wrote an average of nearly one a month for six straight years, and no one ever noticed, is really stretching credibility, and history.

And does it not seem that being in possession of more than five dozen hand-written letters by Elvis Presley, ones filled with "shocking revelations," would garner a lot more money if they were put up for auction, rather than publishing them in a book?

Will reproduction of the letters and/or envelopes that are from Elvis going to appear in the book? We don't know. We do not see any in either of the two videos I found.

A look at even a few of the actual letters, not only for the handwriting but also for what he says, will be enlightening. A lot of history is set in the 1966-1972 timeline, and if these authentic letters contain bullshit, it will be apparent immediately.

Lindberg answers some questions on the book's publisher site:

Author Interview

..


Text Version of Interview


[snip]


When did you learn about the letters from Elvis?

In 1988 I received a phone call from an artist friend who also collected celebrity memorabilia. He had become involved with a cache of handwritten celebrity letters that he believed could be the basis of a book and asked me to participate in the development of that project.

How were the letters discovered?

All the letters, written between 1966 and 1972, were addressed to the same recipient, a woman named Carmen Montez who had become a spiritual advisor to the letter writers. When Carmen died with no heirs, the state of California sold her possessions at auction. Carmen’s best friend bought several items, including three unopened suitcases supposedly containing garments. One of these suitcases contained the celebrity letters, some still with postmarked envelopes.


[snip]


Tell us more about this secret spiritual guide.

Carmen Montez is a genuine mystery woman. Historical records we have discovered show that she was born outside the U.S.—she claims in Spain. She worked for a time in the Hollywood film industry until a serious accident caused her to undergo a spiritual transformation and shift gears to assisting in the spiritual development of people in the industry—actors, stunt people, producers, musicians, et cetera. Eventually she became an ordained minister in the Universal Church of the Master, a small California-based faith that believed in direct communication between the spiritual and physical worlds. Carmen seemed to possess a rare combination of authenticity, charisma, intelligence and spirituality that attracted people looking for a spiritual guide.

How did Elvis meet Carmen?

It is widely known that Elvis was a true spiritual “seeker” and throughout his life aligned with many different spiritual gurus and movements including his hairdresser, Larry Geller; the Self-Realization Fellowship in Pacific Palisades founded by Paramahansa Yogananda; and many others. Elvis evidently met Carmen through a mutual friend, Harry Belafonte, another spiritual seeker, whose letters to Carmen are among those that served as the basis for this book.

You mentioned in the book that there were 265 letters. How many of those did Elvis write?

We have sixty-five written to Carmen by Elvis Presley. The famous actor Marlon Brando wrote over a hundred letters. The remainder were written by Harry Belafonte and the singer Tom Jones.


[snip]


How can you be certain these letters are authentic?

Original letters from the cache were submitted to a world-renowned handwriting analyst, Charles W. Sachs, who became famous as the authority who testified in a famous legal case involving documents purportedly signed by Howard Hughes. His opinion settled the case. We have his written opinion of authenticity.


http://calumeteditions.com/elvis/

Another interview was given about a week ago to KARE-TV (Minneapolis):


..

Letters From Elvis - KARE-TV - October 10, 2018


All of this seems dubious not only for fans of Elvis, but also those of Marlon Brando, Harry Belafonte and Tom Jones.

But let's see a few of the Presley letters.


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Having read the book, (I was sent an advanced copy) the content will make readers review their opinion of EP’s decline in the 1970’s, the drug dependantcy and the fear of death threats.
In my opinion, Elvis comes out of the book very positively.

I am curently bound by a non-disclosure agrement so can not go any further for now, but I can tell you that this is quite shocking and somewhat brutal.
The letters have been authenticated (according the publisher) and I can not say one way or the other as to the authenticity, as I am not an authority in this area.

Someone commented that the letters themselves would have generated more money than the potential book sales, this may well be true, but the author and the publisher both wanted this to be told in a coherent narrative rather than just a collection of letters.
The publisher said to me “the story needs telling, it is true, and it needs to be out in the public domain”.

I suppose once the book is out there is nothing preventing the owner of the letters selling them.

You can judge for yourself in a few days when the book is released.




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what a joke...laughable to say the least :lol:



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Scoobie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:15 am wrote:Having read the book, (I was sent an advanced copy) the content will make readers review their opinion of EP’s decline in the 1970’s, the drug dependantcy and the fear of death threats.
In my opinion, Elvis comes out of the book very positively.

I am curently bound by a non-disclosure agrement so can not go any further for now, but I can tell you that this is quite shocking and somewhat brutal.
The letters have been authenticated (according the publisher) and I can not say one way or the other as to the authenticity, as I am not an authority in this area.

Someone commented that the letters themselves would have generated more money than the potential book sales, this may well be true, but the author and the publisher both wanted this to be told in a coherent narrative rather than just a collection of letters.
The publisher said to me “the story needs telling, it is true, and it needs to be out in the public domain”.

I suppose once the book is out there is nothing preventing the owner of the letters selling them.

You can judge for yourself in a few days when the book is released.

Does this book provide reproductions of the 65 letters hand-written by Elvis? It is noticeable that not a single one is seen in any of the promotional materials.


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drjohncarpenter on Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:54 pm wrote:
Scoobie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:15 am wrote:Having read the book, (I was sent an advanced copy) the content will make readers review their opinion of EP’s decline in the 1970’s, the drug dependantcy and the fear of death threats.
In my opinion, Elvis comes out of the book very positively.

I am curently bound by a non-disclosure agrement so can not go any further for now, but I can tell you that this is quite shocking and somewhat brutal.
The letters have been authenticated (according the publisher) and I can not say one way or the other as to the authenticity, as I am not an authority in this area.

Someone commented that the letters themselves would have generated more money than the potential book sales, this may well be true, but the author and the publisher both wanted this to be told in a coherent narrative rather than just a collection of letters.
The publisher said to me “the story needs telling, it is true, and it needs to be out in the public domain”.

I suppose once the book is out there is nothing preventing the owner of the letters selling them.

You can judge for yourself in a few days when the book is released.

Does this book provide reproductions of the 65 letters hand-written by Elvis? It is noticeable that not a single one is seen in any of the promotional materials.

Hello, no the letters are not in the book. I am told that this for legal reasons, they wanted them to be included but could not.
The authenticity of the letters is the crux of the matter.
That of course does not mean that they can not be made public in some other way, just not in the book.
I will ask the publisher if there are any plans by the owner to allow viewing of the letters and certificates of authenticity.



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Scoobie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:20 am wrote:Hello, no the letters are not in the book. I am told that this for legal reasons, they wanted them to be included but could not.
The authenticity of the letters is the crux of the matter.
That of course does not mean that they can not be made public in some other way, just not in the book.
I will ask the publisher if there are any plans by the owner to allow viewing of the letters and certificates of authenticity.
"Allow viewing"?

Actual Elvis letters have been reproduced in other books and online. In this case, both the writer and recipient are dead. This "legal reasons" excuse seems dubious, a major red flag.

So there are transcriptions in the book? Are they complete? How can these be verified as accurate, since readers will not see the originals?

According to the promotional materials, the verification was done 30 years ago by someone named Charles Sachs.

https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/mr-charles-william-sachs_id_G-2917369155344577572

Of the 65 claimed letters, Sachs reviewed six (6) photocopied letters and two (2) holograph letters (which means a document written in the handwriting of the person whose signature it bears).

But that's not even 10% of the total number of so-called Presley missives.


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If I can review even two of these letters, I'll know whether is project is legitimate.

But right now, it does not look that way.
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Dr. John,

Yes, those are indeed the letters concerned in the book.
The puplisher is in the process of negotiations with the owner in regards the next steps in publicising the actual letters.

From the proof that I read the letters are not transcripted but summarised by the author.

Giving you the chance to see them (or photocopies) is an interesting idea to me, let me raise it and see if this can be arranged.



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Scoobie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:19 am wrote:Dr. John,

Yes, those are indeed the letters concerned in the book.
The puplisher is in the process of negotiations with the owner in regards the next steps in publicising the actual letters.

From the proof that I read the letters are not transcripted but summarised by the author.

Giving you the chance to see them (or photocopies) is an interesting idea to me, let me raise it and see if this can be arranged.

A book that "summarizes" letters, and does not publish copies of a single one, does not sound to me like something genuine. Since these so-called documents have been sitting around for 30 years, I find it very odd that including at least one reproduction was not mandatory. The fact that there are letters from other stars as well (Belafonte, Brando, Jones), but ONLY Elvis is seen and noted in the cover art, is another very suspect decision.

All red flags.


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drjohncarpenter on Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:39 pm wrote:
Scoobie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:19 am wrote:Dr. John,

Yes, those are indeed the letters concerned in the book.
The puplisher is in the process of negotiations with the owner in regards the next steps in publicising the actual letters.

From the proof that I read the letters are not transcripted but summarised by the author.

Giving you the chance to see them (or photocopies) is an interesting idea to me, let me raise it and see if this can be arranged.

A book that "summarizes" letters, and does not publish copies of a single one, does not sound to me like something genuine. Since these so-called documents have been sitting around for 30 years, I find it very odd that including at least one reproduction was not mandatory. The fact that there are letters from other stars as well (Belafonte, Brando, Jones), but ONLY Elvis is seen and noted in the cover art, is another very suspect decision.

All red flags.

Hi, I do not seem to be able to PM you, could you PM me? Then perhaps I can reply to you. The author of the book would like to answer your points above, and can get you a document for you to look at.




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drjohncarpenter on Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:40 pm wrote:
Scoobie on Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:51 am wrote:Friends,

There is a new Elvis book to be published on the 1st November 2018. The book is titled “Letters From Elvis”.
There is a facebook page set up:

https://www.facebook.com/LettersFromElvis/

This book is derived from letters written by Elvis (which have been independantly authenticated) which reveal his personal life and tragic events that have never been written of previously.
These events shed new light on Elvis’ personal life.

Have a look at the facebook pageand see what you think...
elvis4life on Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:41 am wrote:I take it this is it? https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Elvis-Shocking-Revelations-Confidante/dp/099873196X/

The author is a guy named Gary Lindberg. It looks like he's worked in various capacities in Hollywood, although his IMDb page is scant.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0511364/


After searching around, although we know Elvis' spiritual pursuits went well beyond his Pentecostal upbringing, it feels like the work offers unverifiable claims at best.

The Presley letters, 65 in number, are supposed to be ones he wrote by hand between 1966 and 1972, and sent to a spiritual advisor in California named Carmen Montez.

Montez apparently worked in the "Hollywood film industry" until an "accident" pushed her into another, more spiritual direction. She is supposed to have been ordained a minister at a small, San Leandro, CA church, although the site today, now in nearby San Jose, does not mention her:

Universal Church of the Master
https://www.u-c-m.org/

By all accounts, Presley was not a huge letter-writer. To imagine he wrote an average of nearly one a month for six straight years, and no one ever noticed, is really stretching credibility, and history.

And does it not seem that being in possession of more than five dozen hand-written letters by Elvis Presley, ones filled with "shocking revelations," would garner a lot more money if they were put up for auction, rather than publishing them in a book?

Will reproduction of the letters and/or envelopes that are from Elvis going to appear in the book? We don't know. We do not see any in either of the two videos I found.

A look at even a few of the actual letters, not only for the handwriting but also for what he says, will be enlightening. A lot of history is set in the 1966-1972 timeline, and if these authentic letters contain bullshit, it will be apparent immediately.

Lindberg answers some questions on the book's publisher site:

Author Interview

..


Text Version of Interview


[snip]


When did you learn about the letters from Elvis?

In 1988 I received a phone call from an artist friend who also collected celebrity memorabilia. He had become involved with a cache of handwritten celebrity letters that he believed could be the basis of a book and asked me to participate in the development of that project.

How were the letters discovered?

All the letters, written between 1966 and 1972, were addressed to the same recipient, a woman named Carmen Montez who had become a spiritual advisor to the letter writers. When Carmen died with no heirs, the state of California sold her possessions at auction. Carmen’s best friend bought several items, including three unopened suitcases supposedly containing garments. One of these suitcases contained the celebrity letters, some still with postmarked envelopes.


[snip]


Tell us more about this secret spiritual guide.

Carmen Montez is a genuine mystery woman. Historical records we have discovered show that she was born outside the U.S.—she claims in Spain. She worked for a time in the Hollywood film industry until a serious accident caused her to undergo a spiritual transformation and shift gears to assisting in the spiritual development of people in the industry—actors, stunt people, producers, musicians, et cetera. Eventually she became an ordained minister in the Universal Church of the Master, a small California-based faith that believed in direct communication between the spiritual and physical worlds. Carmen seemed to possess a rare combination of authenticity, charisma, intelligence and spirituality that attracted people looking for a spiritual guide.

How did Elvis meet Carmen?

It is widely known that Elvis was a true spiritual “seeker” and throughout his life aligned with many different spiritual gurus and movements including his hairdresser, Larry Geller; the Self-Realization Fellowship in Pacific Palisades founded by Paramahansa Yogananda; and many others. Elvis evidently met Carmen through a mutual friend, Harry Belafonte, another spiritual seeker, whose letters to Carmen are among those that served as the basis for this book.

You mentioned in the book that there were 265 letters. How many of those did Elvis write?

We have sixty-five written to Carmen by Elvis Presley. The famous actor Marlon Brando wrote over a hundred letters. The remainder were written by Harry Belafonte and the singer Tom Jones.


[snip]


How can you be certain these letters are authentic?

Original letters from the cache were submitted to a world-renowned handwriting analyst, Charles W. Sachs, who became famous as the authority who testified in a famous legal case involving documents purportedly signed by Howard Hughes. His opinion settled the case. We have his written opinion of authenticity.


http://calumeteditions.com/elvis/

Another interview was given about a week ago to KARE-TV (Minneapolis):


..

Letters From Elvis - KARE-TV - October 10, 2018


All of this seems dubious not only for fans of Elvis, but also those of Marlon Brando, Harry Belafonte and Tom Jones.

But let's see a few of the Presley letters.

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe this has been stated, but what does Tom Jones say about the letters? If he were to admit his are legit, I'd be more likely to believe the Elvis ones are genuine.




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If I may ask:

How and why have you recieved an advance copy of the book ?

What is the overall upshot in relation to Elvis.

Why the coyness and doublespeak.

And why does the author and yourself feel that the good doctor here needs more information than the rest of us....as you now want to talk privately after starting this thread as a teaser.

I am inclined to believe the letters are just not there. Elvis is wellknown for hardly writing letters .



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poppii on Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:05 am wrote:If I may ask:

How and why have you recieved an advance copy of the book ?

What is the overall upshot in relation to Elvis.

Why the coyness and doublespeak.

And why does the author and yourself feel that the good doctor here needs more information than the rest of us....as you now want to talk privately after starting this thread as a teaser.

I am inclined to believe the letters are just not there. Elvis is wellknown for hardly writing letters .

Hello,

I will answer each of your questions;

I came to read the book because I have a relationship with the publisher, he new I was a fan and wanted me to give him my opinion.

To my mind Elvis comes out of the book positively and someone with whom the reader will have great sympathy.

As for my reluctance to give detail, I was under a non disclosure agreement that I had to sign in order to read the book.
So I could not divulge any specifics.

Why did I want to PM Dr. John? Well he expressed interest and previous knowledge of the letters and the authentication in 1988. All of this will be shared on this thread, no one will be excluded. In any case, it seems I can’t get the messaging system to work, not sure if I am doing something wrong. I can PM other members, just not Dr. John.

The author is quite willing to talk to the members of this message board, and even to someone on a one to one basis and Dr. John was the first person to express interest and most importantly, previous knowledge of the letters.

My opinion is that the letters are genuine, (albeit an amatuer, just a fan opinion).

I spoke with the author yesterday and suggested he join this message board and start answering the many questions raised.

I agree that to date the view is that Elvis was not known to be a huge letter writer. I am willing to accept that this has been the view generally taken, but I am happy to have my viewpoint changed here, given the presented evidence.
We can not presume to know everything about his life, even though we know an huge amount.
I have not seen the letters, once the book comes out you will know as much as I do about this.
In the book, the origin, the authentication, and the provenance of the letters are all fully explained.


Also, please do have a look at the youtube video posted ealier in the thread where Ian Leask interviews Gary, many of the points raised in this thread are answered here.

I hope this answers your questions.




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I'm spectical.

This reminds me of the several telephone conversations that Elvis alledgedly had in late 1976 and 1977 with a "friend" for a school task his son was was working on. The conversations were recorded and transcribed, and showed up in several fan clubs after Elvis's death. Many a serious fan believed it was genuine because they felt Elvis was literally jumping from the text. It's important to remember that an immoral, intelligent, creative, well-read Elvis scholar who's got the way with the words, easily could write something that would sound like Elvis.



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Hello all,

I am now able to discuss the book in more detail as I have been released from the N.D.A.
Some of the events portrayed are very disturbing.
According to the letters Elvis was abducted in ‘68 and suffered a home invasion during which he was raped (male on male rape). The are many revalations in the book that will shock the Elvis world.

I found this a fascinating read.

In page 207, a brutal scene is depicted where Elvis is repeatedly beaten and raped by a gang.
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Scoobie on Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 pm wrote:According to the letters Elvis was abducted in ‘68 and suffered a home invasion during which he was raped (male on male rape). The are many revalations in the book that will shock the Elvis world.
Oh boy. I was genuinely curious up to this point. What a waste of time.

The Elvis world will not be "shocked". It will just laugh at the audacity of this nonsense.

You are either incredibly gullible or a troll.

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ChrisM on Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:07 pm wrote:
Scoobie on Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 pm wrote:According to the letters Elvis was abducted in ‘68 and suffered a home invasion during which he was raped (male on male rape). The are many revalations in the book that will shock the Elvis world.
Oh boy. I was genuinely curious up to this point. What a waste of time.

The Elvis world will not be "shocked". It will just laugh at the audacity of this nonsense.

You are either incredibly gullible or a troll.

Chris
Thanks Chris, but I am a serious fan, and a reasonable contributor to this forum. I do have an open mind about the book.
I think that we know a lot about Elvis and his life experiences, but perhaps we do not know everything.




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Scoobie on Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:35 pm wrote:
ChrisM on Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:07 pm wrote:
Scoobie on Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 pm wrote:According to the letters Elvis was abducted in ‘68 and suffered a home invasion during which he was raped (male on male rape). The are many revalations in the book that will shock the Elvis world.
Oh boy. I was genuinely curious up to this point. What a waste of time.

The Elvis world will not be "shocked". It will just laugh at the audacity of this nonsense.

You are either incredibly gullible or a troll.

Chris
Thanks Chris, but I am a serious fan, and a reasonable contributor to this forum. I do have an open mind about the book.
I think that we know a lot about Elvis and his life experiences, but perhaps we do not know everything.
Sometimes the line between an open mind and a total intellectual collapse can be very thin.



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Because rigorous copyright laws prevent direct publication of the actual letters.........
This has all the red flags we would associate with a well thought out hoax. The only thing that makes me even consider it might be genuine is that they reference letters from Belafonte and Jones - both are alive. A hoax would be on much safer ground using people who are all dead. But maybe they bank on Jones and Belafonte not caring enough to comment and that gives it a whiff of authenticity. Who knows?

As to the story it contains, well it's quite a tale. Here's some more detail I have gleaned from the press kit http://calumeteditions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ELVIS-PRESS-KIT.pdf.

This is quoting direct from the press kit (I've highlighted here claims that contradict the known record of Elvis's life)
1963 October
The roots of an intense feud between Elvis and Sam Katzman, producer of the movie Kissin’ Cousins, began sometime during the seventeen-day shooting of the movie.

1967
June
Carmen Montez is introduced to Harry Belafonte to discuss a screenplay written by her protégé “Joi Sommers.” The growing relationship with Harry helps facilitate relationships between Carmen and Marlon Brando, Tom Jones and Elvis Presley.

October
Sometime during the location filming of the movie “Stay Away, Joe,” Elvis attempts suicide. In his letters he credits Carmen, whom he has never met, with saving his life through a kind of psychic influence.
Furthermore one of the you tube videos in the press kit also claims that in 1967 Elvis was subject to various acts of torment in a concerted conspiracy against him.
These include -
+ Elvis attacked with a knife in his hospital room
+ acid was put in Sucaryl in his kitchen
+ tooth powder was laced with cocaine
+ a rattlesnake was put in his dressing room
1968
August 28
Elvis completes audio looping for the movie Charro! and it is released. The historical record is dark about this period, claiming simply that he spent the next several weeks relaxing at his Palm Springs home. His letters to Carmen Montez, however, tell a different story.Now we know that he was abducted, tortured, sodomized and then secretly spent time recovering in an L.A.hospital. The extremity of the assault was kept from the public because during this period in history male-on-male rape would have sullied any machismo star’s standing with fans and industry executives.

September
While recovering from the assault, a hospital nurse reported interrupting a semi-conscious Elvis who appeared to be attempting suicide in his room

1969
January
In early January, according to letters written to Carmen, Elvis attempted suicide for a second time

September
After completing his series of Concerts at the International in Las Vegas, an exhausted Elvis checked into a hospital under an assumed name, then disappeared and woke up in Nancy Sinatra’s hotel room with no memory of how he had gotten there.


1970
July 18
Early in the morning, two men invade Elvis’s Palm Springs home and assault Elvis and Priscilla in their bed.
What we know from Guralnick & Jorgensens Elvis Day by Day is that in September 1968 Elvis did suffer two distressing events - his cousin Bobby Smith (Billy's older brother) died from drinking rat poison, and then a couple of weeks later Dewey Phillips died. Guralnick says Elvis spent most of that month in Palm Springs returning to Memphis on September 25th.

There are so many issues with these claims. Here's just a few -
If Elvis had a guru in Carmen Montez we would probably know about it. Almost every aspect of his spiritual life has been revealed by Larry Geller.
It's inconceivable that Elvis had a close friendship with Marlon Brando. We would know about this from one of the guys. The idea that Elvis and Marlon would hang out together alone (to then be abducted) is just not realistic. Elvis was barely ever without the guys around him.
Elvis was abducted? Surely someone in the organisation would've let this slip by now? Surely his security team would've been fired at the time? Yet there was no major changes of personnel at that time. Surely Red and Sonny would've written something in EWH?
That Elvis would attempt suicide in early January 1969 - when we know he was gearing up to get into American Studios and make some of the the greatest work of his career?

I don't think we can ever say for sure that we know everything about his life but the idea that something this big, over several years could remain hidden for so long just doesn't stack up.

As a footnote though - I'll be interested to see how the book timeline ties in with the genuine 1967 mystery of the cancelled recording sessions maybe an answer to that puzzle that will get me to drop my skepticism. Oh and actually having a look at the letters.....



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Scoobie on Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:36 am wrote:Hello all,

I am now able to discuss the book in more detail as I have been released from the N.D.A.
Some of the events portrayed are very disturbing.
According to the letters Elvis was abducted in ‘68 and suffered a home invasion during which he was raped (male on male rape). The are many revalations in the book that will shock the Elvis world.

I found this a fascinating read.

In page 207, a brutal scene is depicted where Elvis is repeatedly beaten and raped by a gang.

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No.

Just, no.

All my concerns have been answered.

This is fiction, my friend, nasty fiction, and it's very unfortunate you have invested so thoroughly in such a tawdry enterprise.


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The author writes "historical fiction" and this so-called expert's company does not seem to have any presence on the net.

This is either a bad joke or they need a mental health specialist.


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Sounds horrible and unbelievable.
He had too many people around him his entire life to have escaped notice of such gruesome stuff.
And he is known to have hardly written anything let alone letter after letter.
Same as that letter ...Lucy de Barbin claims is his.....yet in a supposed 20 year romance not one pic of him with her and the daughter she claims is his looks nothing like him or his mother, father, other kin...nothing at all