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kevanbudd on Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:36 pm wrote:Graceland auction acetate appears to contain a false start for `I'm left, you're right, she's gone!

I asked Graceland to post a sample of the fragment which wasn't a part of the original audio/video sample they posted, which they kindly did for me and there it appeared!

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http://auction.graceland.com/1955_Sun_Records_Acetate_Pair_for_Elvis_Presley_s_-LOT3368.aspx

I have spoken to Graceland by phone, but there doesn't appear to be any other unreleased parts on the other acetates as far as they know.

I have contacted Ernst regarding these acetates and the false start.

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Great job kevan, good to see you around a bit more on the forum :D


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svallen on Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:25 pm wrote:A vinyl set consisting of 6 vinyl LPs would be great.
FTD can do this by doing it the way they did it with the CD box:The complete Elvis masters.
Make 1000 vinyl boxes with the book that comes with the :Boy from Tupelo set.
Updated with new found songs information.
This would be an great way to do it. :mrgreen: :smt006
And very expensive too especially with the book and a run of just 1000. Not sure I can see that idea being approved.


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emjel on Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:45 pm wrote:
svallen on Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:25 pm wrote:A vinyl set consisting of 6 vinyl LPs would be great.
FTD can do this by doing it the way they did it with the CD box:The complete Elvis masters.
Make 1000 vinyl boxes with the book that comes with the :Boy from Tupelo set.
Updated with new found songs information.
This would be an great way to do it. :mrgreen: :smt006
And very expensive too especially with the book and a run of just 1000. Not sure I can see that idea being approved.
There is no way a 1000-copy reprint of the FTD book A Boy From Tupelo gets a green light. The rest of the idea is just as far-fetched.


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why are they auctioning all this stuff? sorry, might be a silly question, but I kinda don't understand their policy in handling these audio documents...




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...none of this stuff is OWNED by the estate...however a rep from Graceland can certainly bid as they have done in the past.



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sitdown revamped on Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:56 pm wrote:why are they auctioning all this stuff? sorry, might be a silly question, but I kinda don't understand their policy in handling these audio documents...
It depends who you think "they" are, it's certainly not EPE, they are merely hosting the auction. The owners can chose to keep or sell what they own as they wish, no policy required.



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colonel snow on Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:07 am wrote:If you've some money to spend:

Milkcow blues boogie - Sun acetate with announcement by Sam: "Elvis milkcow"


here is the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Elvis-Presley-Sun-Acetate-Milkcow-Boogie-Blues-NM/173441046626

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Thank you for the link. Man, Sun acetates are growing on trees in 2018.

According to the description, there is no "announcement by Sam," it is simply a piece of tape with the message, attached to the disc:

Elvis Sun acetates almost never come up for sale. I've had this one for years and the time has come to sell it. Sam Phillips attached a piece of tape that says " ELVIS MILKCOW." The tale is above the spindle hole and is surrounded by a triangle of other holes used to anchor the acetate during recording. The label has Audiodisc 4254 printed in red inside the arc created by the 3 triangular holes.


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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
sweetangeline on August 1st, 2018, 4:48 pm wrote:...none of this stuff is OWNED by the estate...however a rep from Graceland can certainly bid as they have done in the past.
Like "Graceland" did when they lost the bid ($300,000) on the original My Happiness/That´s When Your Heartches Begin acetate to Jack White (Nashville Singer/Producer)! :wink:. Bye for now :smt006.
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Mike Windgren on Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:10 am wrote:
sweetangeline on August 1st, 2018, 4:48 pm wrote:...none of this stuff is OWNED by the estate...however a rep from Graceland can certainly bid as they have done in the past.
Like "Graceland" did when they lost the bid ($300,000) on the original My Happiness/That´s When Your Heartches Begin acetate to Jack White (Nashville Singer/Producer)!
There are a lot of errors in your post.

Jack White is not known as a "Nashville Singer/Producer." He was born in Detroit and began his music career there, playing in underground garage rock bands. He eventually formed a duo called the White Stripes, making music heavily influenced by blues and punk rock, which brought international recognition. About ten years ago he moved to Nashville with his then-second wife and family.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_White

"Graceland" has, to the best of my knowledge, made no statement about any Presley auction.

The private bidding for the 1953 "My Happiness" acetate in January 2015 began at $50,000 and 21 bids total were received. Not one of them was identified, including the winning bid of $300,000.

Two months later, Billboard magazine revealed it was White who placed the winning bid.

http://auction.graceland.com/elvis_presley_s_first_recording_acetate__1953-lot8.aspx
https://thirdmanrecords.com/news/jacks-billboard-cover-story/


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Great detective work,thanks Kevan.


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Tony C on Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:02 pm wrote:
sitdown revamped on Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:56 pm wrote:why are they auctioning all this stuff? sorry, might be a silly question, but I kinda don't understand their policy in handling these audio documents...
It depends who you think "they" are, it's certainly not EPE, they are merely hosting the auction. The owners can chose to keep or sell what they own as they wish, no policy required.
Oh okay, thanks. I thought it was EPE...



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kevanbudd wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:36 pm
Graceland auction acetate appears to contain a false start for `I'm left, you're right, she's gone!

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Audio file MP3
https://instaud.io/2tId

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Requested video posted
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Original video posted
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http://auction.graceland.com/1955_Sun_Records_Acetate_Pair_for_Elvis_Presley_s_-LOT3368.aspx

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I have contacted Ernst regarding these acetates and the false start.

Kevan Budd.
Thanks Kevan for the great find. I have not seen this posting from 2018 till now.
If you are allowed to answer, what has Ernst said about it? Is Sony/Ernst in general interested buying such rare things to release them? If yes have they a limitation to bid?
I mean - if I am honest - I am personally not a big fan of listening to Sun era material. Especially not to all the ballads from that time and the ones without drums. But there are a few great recordings made from 54-55. A great part of the Elvis fans are getting crazy listening to them and it was a very importand part/time for Elvis. The Elvis legacy impact is definitly very high, so hard to believe Sony wasn't interested owning it.

By the way "Elvis At Sun" is definitly the best sounding album till now with that stuff. I remember listening to it for the first time, I couldn't believe what you have done there that the material sounds so flashing good. The same with Elvis' first three longplayers, doing such a great work with that very limited time you had to work on it. I wished they would have giving you the order to remaster ALL of Elvis 50s material.