FULL DETAILS 'From Elvis In Memphis' 40th Anniv - 2 CD Set

[MysteryTrain]

Is it possible that there are going to be two versions of "From Elvis In Memphis" (Legacy Edition)? Elvis Australia reported, after checking with Sony more than once, that it would be as originally advertised with the stereo tracks. Also, Amazon.UK shows it with the stereo tracks. As far as I know, only in the U.S.A. is it advertised with the MONO tracks. It wouldn't be the first time that a different version was released internationally.

MT

[Claus]

Possibly but it would be a strange move. I just checked play.co.uk and hmv.uk and both are showing it with the mono tracks and they are also on Sony/Legacy's own site.

[Rich_TCB]

Claus is right . . .

On both the Legacy and Elvis The Music websites, they both mention the 10 mono single masters. For the record, I personally hope they are included as well, especially for the hit single version of "Suspicious Minds".

Legacy

http://www.legacyrecordings.com/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsGuid=63b577a6-618d-4dd1-a82c-2bb9e6cc772d

Elvis The Music

http://www.elvisthemusic.com/news/from-elvis-memphis-legacy-edition-celebrates-40th-anniversary-american-studios-sessions

Rich

[Elvis Australia]

Okay, I have now had conformation from Sony that the Legacy list is definitely correct and we are getting the mono tracks. I don't know why there is no stereo version of Suspicious Minds.

As below ....

Disc 1

The original ‘From Elvis In Memphis’ album

01. Wearin’ That Loved On Look
02. Only The Strong Survive
03. I’ll Hold You In My Heart (Till I Can Hold You In My Arms)
04. Long Black Limousine
05. It Keeps Right On A-Hurtin’
06. I’m Movin’ On
07. Power Of My Love
08. Gentle On My Mind
09. After Loving You
10. True Love Travels On A Gravel Road
11. Any Day Now
12. In The Ghetto

Bonus Tracks

13. I’ll Be There
14. Hey Jude
15. If I’m A Fool (For Loving You)
16. Who Am I?

Disc 2

The original ‘Back In Memphis’ album

01. Inherit The Wind
02. This Is The Story
03. Stranger In My Own Hometown
04. A Little Bit Of Green
05. And The Grass Won’t Pay No Mind
06. Do You Know Who I Am?
07. From A Jack To A King
08. The Fair’s Moving On
09. You’ll Think Of Me
10. Without Love (There Is Nothing)

Bonus Mono Singles

11. In The Ghetto
12. Any Day Now
13. The Fair’s Moving On
14. Suspicious Minds
15. You’ll Think Of Me On
16. Don’t Cry Daddy
17. Rubberneckin’
18. Kentucky Rain
19. My Little Friend
20. Mama Liked The Roses

[Mister Mike]

If those singles all had dedicated mono mixes then I'll be happy to hear them and add them to my collection. If there are simple fold-downs in that list, then I don't really see the reason to include them as such.

[Elvis Australia]

All of Elvis' US singles were released in mono only up to 1971. Merry Christmas Baby may have been Elvis' first stereo single.

Remember radio was AM - mono - so singles were made for radio play in mono.

[KiwiAlan]

All of Elvis' US singles were released in mono only up to 1971. Merry Christmas Baby may have been Elvis' first stereo single.

Remember radio was AM - mono - so singles were made for radio play in mono.

Not true!

Stuck on You
It's Now or Never
Are You Lonesome Tonight

All had original stereo single release.

[Elvis Australia]

All of Elvis' US singles were released in mono only up to 1971. Merry Christmas Baby may have been Elvis' first stereo single.

Remember radio was AM - mono - so singles were made for radio play in mono.

Not true!

Stuck on You
It's Now or Never
Are You Lonesome Tonight

All had original stereo single release.

KiwiAlan, yes you are correct, we overlooked that. Also Surrender was in Stereo.

There was definitely a mono release for each so they must have released in both stereo and mono, I guess fittingly to mark Elvis' first stereo recordings.

After this I do believe they kept to one mono release only.

Edit: So the answer to 'Mister Mike's' question, is yes they were 'dedicated mono mixes'.

[thenexte]

And here are the ISRC's. Strangely enough, the ISRC's of the original FEIM tracks (Disc 1, Tracks 1-12) are identical to the ISRCs these tracks had on the 60's box set, I can only hope the mastering will be not!

DISC 1:
01 USRC16908256
02 USRC16908257
03 USRC16903936
04 USRC16908258
05 USRC16903937
06 USRC16908259
07 USRC16908260
08 USRC16903938
09 USRC16908261
10 USRC16908262
11 USRC16903635
12 USRC16906016
13 USRC19306035
14 USRC19306033
15 USRC19306040
16 USRC19305712

DISC 2:
01 USRC19306028
02 USRC19306023
03 USRC19306037
04 USRC19306026
05 USRC19306038
06 USRC19306039
07 USRC19306032
08 USRC19306041
09 USRC19306025
10 USRC19306034
11 USRC16906016
12 USRC16903635
13 USRC19901938
14 USRC16901355
15 USRC16908462
16 USRC16908264
17 USRC16908282
18 USRC16903934
19 USRC19901933
20 USRC16908463

[KiwiAlan]

Bad vibes with those ISRC's on disc one!

[KiwiAlan]

RE the ISRC numbers I note that disc one on Amazon does not mention Digitally Remasterd whereas disc two does!

Ii's beginning to look like the original FEIM might not have had any special treatment since 1969.

[Claus]

Here is the mono mix of In The Ghetto. Notice the dry vocal and the slightly longer fade, making it a few seconds longer than the stereo mix.
This is a needledrop from the Worldwide 50. Gold Award Hits vol. 1 (German pressing).

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[thenexte]

RE the ISRC numbers I note that disc one on Amazon does not mention Digitally Remasterd whereas disc two does!

Ii's beginning to look like the original FEIM might not have had any special treatment since 1969.

It's pretty clear to me that a "Digitally remastered" designation is kind of an automated thing because only the 1969 tracks that have been registered as an ISRC in 1993 got it.

I really don't think that says much about the mastering though because the ISRC handbook is not really clear here:

4.1.3. No re-use
...
A new ISRC should be assigned whenever a recording has been re-issued in a revised or fully re-mastered form. Also see Section 4.9.1 Re-mixes / Edits / Session Takes and Section 4.9.10 Re-mastering.

4.9.6 Restoration of historical recordings
Re-mastering and editing technologies (including re-pitching, re-equalising, de-noising, de-clicking, etc.) offer many ways of processing historical recordings in order that they meet contemporary quality standards. When a full restoration of sound quality is carried out, the processed recording is to be considered a separate recording and thus obtain a new ISRC.

4.9.10 Re-mastering
When a track is re-mastered for the purpose of reproduction on a new carrier without restoration of sound quality (also see Section 4.9.1 Re-mixes / Edits / Sessions) , then no new ISRC is required. It is nevertheless the Registrant’s responsibility to decide where to draw the line between sound restoration (full re-mastering) and simple re-mastering.

It's certainly interesting that no new ISRCs have been assigned to the mono singles:

4.9.1 Re-mixes/ Edits / Session Takes
If multiple sound recordings are produced in the same recording session with or without any change in orchestration, arrangement, or artist and if they are preserved or turned into commercial products, each recording shall be encoded with a new ISRC. A new ISRC shall be given to each re-mix, edit or new version of a recording. It is recommended that the Registrant associate in its database the ISRC numbers of the original recordings used in the remixing.

[HenriB]

We should all remember that the ONLY true hit version of Suspicious Minds is the mono one. When people were begging for the stereo of that song they realized that the overdubs were missing. So, they had te RECREATE the mono single in stereo. Meaning it is not the original version. So, I, for one, am very happy to get legitimate versions of the mono singles.

[MysteryTrain]

I don't think a single person in this thread has complained about the release of the MONO version of "Suspicious Minds." The consistent complaint has been that the Stereo version is not also included.

MT

[Matthew]

We should all remember that the ONLY true hit version of Suspicious Minds is the mono one. When people were begging for the stereo of that song they realized that the overdubs were missing. So, they had te RECREATE the mono single in stereo. Meaning it is not the original version. So, I, for one, am very happy to get legitimate versions of the mono singles.

The final mono and stereo mixes were made and completed at the same overdub session in 1969. The main difference between the two is that since the original multitrack session tape was full the horns were dubbed live down to the final full track mono mix and then again live to the stereo 2-track master hence the mono and stereo mix feature different horn performances.

[JerryNodak]

RE the ISRC numbers I note that disc one on Amazon does not mention Digitally Remasterd whereas disc two does!

Ii's beginning to look like the original FEIM might not have had any special treatment since 1969.

I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in what's listed on Amazon. They've been wrong before. For instance their track listing for the 2008 upgrade of HGTA is now incorrect. At least on my last checking. This after having it CORRECT earlier.

I'm betting that Vic Anesini has done some work on the original 12 FEIM tracks.

[JerryNodak]

RE the ISRC numbers I note that disc one on Amazon does not mention Digitally Remasterd whereas disc two does!

Ii's beginning to look like the original FEIM might not have had any special treatment since 1969.

I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in what's listed on Amazon. They've been wrong before. For instance their track listing for the 2008 upgrade of HGTA is now incorrect. At least on my last checking. This after having it CORRECT earlier.

I'm betting that Vic Anesini has done some work on the original 12 FEIM tracks.

I stand corrected about the track listing. It's now corrected. But if you really want to read a "review" that will grind your gears look up the 2008 listing for His Hand In Mine and read what's written under the headline "For Hardcore Fans Only."
Unbelievable.

[L Ray]

RE the ISRC numbers I note that disc one on Amazon does not mention Digitally Remasterd whereas disc two does!

Ii's beginning to look like the original FEIM might not have had any special treatment since 1969.

I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in what's listed on Amazon. They've been wrong before. For instance their track listing for the 2008 upgrade of HGTA is now incorrect. At least on my last checking. This after having it CORRECT earlier.

I'm betting that Vic Anesini has done some work on the original 12 FEIM tracks.

Remember also that the masters were all worked in 2007. Those would be the ones we are getting on FEIM and BIM. What amazon has listed does not matter. They only have 18 tracks listed for disc 2.

[L Ray]

At amazon usa they do show the back cover. It is too blury for me to read. If anyone can read it it would be interesting to know what it says.

[Swingin-Little-Guitar-Man]

I'll wager a bet that it'll be EVERY master in stereo and the bonus mono singles. That's how it will be. I'm sure.

[Claus]

I can confirm that the tracklisting is identical to the one in post 1 of the thread so there are no stereo mixes of Suspicious Minds, Don't Cry Daddy, etc.





Thanks to thenexte for posting these pictures on another forum.

[MysteryTrain]

It is an attractive package. IMO the following is the best audio source for the missing stereo tracks:

"Suspicious Minds" HitStory (U.S.A. edition);
"Don't Cry Daddy" Second to None;
"Kentucky Rain" Second to None;
"My Little Friend" Almost In Love (Complete Singles Collection [Japan]);
"Rubberneckin'" Almost In Love (Complete Singles Collection [Japan]);
"Mama Liked The Roses" Inspirational (Genre).

MT

[BigredG]

Looks mighty nice.

[bajo]

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