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Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:19 am
jess wade wrote:What will Ernst be remembered for?
Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:53 am
Ernst has managed to reassess and reorganize the Presley canon in such a fashion that anyone who wants to know why late 20th century interest in Elvis significantly increased, Jørgensen's releases under the BMG and FTD imprint will be given their undeniable due. His humour, intelligence and insight have been vital to the many successes of the past twenty years.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:13 pm
Daryl wrote:Elvis At Sun - easily surpassed by Pirzada's MRS Volumes 1 & 2.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:28 pm
Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:40 pm
Is anyone else finding Daryl's negativity on the Forum annoying and tiresome or is it just Me?
Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:54 pm
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:35 pm
While I agree with you Ton Bruins that we shouldn't blame Ernst for some of the shows that Elvis did, I do think Ernst should be a little more selective in his choices as to what to put out. For example. The "Closing Night" FTD from September, 1973 is in my honest opinion an embarrassment and probably never should have been released. The comments that Elvis made on that FTD do not present Elvis in a positive manner whatsoever. There are far better shows to release, like say the closing night from February 1970 or for that matter the opening night from that very same engagement. I'm still waiting for him to release the live version of "True Love Travels On A Gravel Road" officially on FTD.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:47 pm
Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:52 pm
Robt wrote:hey Daryl,
Thank you for your detailed negative review of the EJ era!
Now let's see if you can, or try to, write a piece that reflects what EJ actually
achieved since 1985! As an example, state some alternate tracks and
EJ has put out that are your highlights?
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:55 pm
You asked for my personal highlights of the EJ era, so here goes:
Essential Elvis Volumes 1-4
One of my favorite tracks is "It's Only Love" from volume 4. Personally, I enjoy tracks where you can hear Elvis rehearsing prior to the alternate take. Other examples of this that I enjoy include "There's A Honky Tonk Angel" from Essential Elvis Volume 5 and "Suspicious Minds" from "Memphis Sessions"
The Jungle Room Sessions - This release put a whole new spin on these sessions. Need I say more.
50's boxset- landmark release though I personally would have included a handful of the home recordings made in Germany (1959).
60's boxset - another landmark release though I prefer the original mix to "My Little Friend" and I would have included the reprise of "Witchcraft/Love Me Tender" as found on the Capitol CD release of a few years ago.
Today, Tomorrow And Forever boxset - probably my favorite Jorgensen release. In particular I love the third disc from this set. The alternates of "Love Letters", "Indescribably Blue", "You Don't Know Me" as well as the stereo master of "Memories" at last! The alternate take of "Stay Away" is killer too.
Amazing Grace - the best Elvis gospel set done; highlights for me are "Where No One Stands Alone", "Somebody Bigger Than You And I" (this one is probably my favorite gospel song Elvis did due to the fact that at the end of the song where Elvis sings the line "weary", you literally get the feeling that the man is in fact weary, which sends chills up my spine.), "You'll Never Walk Alone", and "Reach Out To Jesus." There should be no need for any other gospel set on the market after this one.
If Every Day Was Like Christmas - best Elvis Christmas CD, no need for any other really. I would have included the complete "Merry Christmas Baby" found on the "Memories Of Christmas" CD from a few years earlier.
Heart And Soul - the best love songs collection ever done. Do we really need any more?
Individual tracks I enjoy
Mystery Train/Tiger Man - Collector's Gold - To my ears, the best version ever offically released.
You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - TTWII 3rd Disc live version - this track is also found on the FTD "One Night In Vegas". This to me is the best performance of this song I've heard. I love the enthusiasm that Elvis puts into it.
Danny Boy - from Tucson '76 - this is a real gem. Didn't care much for the dialogue that preceded it though. Sounded as if Elvis had a case of stuttering.
America The Beautiful - from Rockin' Across Texas - By far the best officially released version of this song.
My Boy - from Big Boss Man FTD - You can really tell that Elvis was trying his damndest to impress Barbara Streisand, who was in the audience.
Help Me Make It Through The Night - from Dinner At Eight FTD - I really love this version with the orchestra more up front.
Those are just a few of the things that I enjoy off the top of my head. I'll try to think of others.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:17 pm
Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:37 pm
KempoDick wrote:In my eyes Ernst and Ger Rijff are the people who kept me interested in Elvis during the 80s. It certainly wasn't RCA.
I don't always like what's been released and that's fine with me. I simply don't buy what I don't like.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:39 pm
Ton Bruins wrote:KempoDick wrote:In my eyes Ernst and Ger Rijff are the people who kept me interested in Elvis during the 80s. It certainly wasn't RCA.
I don't always like what's been released and that's fine with me. I simply don't buy what I don't like.
Kempo, you are absolutely right. I think we as fans should be very happy to have a label as FTD, I am thankfull for that. That doesn't mean we can't be critical about Elvis or Ernst. I skipp cd's now and then, even if it's a FTD release. I also simply buy what I like and don't buy what I don't like; simple as that...
Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:40 pm
Daryl wrote:While Ernst had done some great projects (50's box, 60's I, IFDWLC, AG, Platinum, and Today, Tomorrow And Forever), I would hardly say that the Elvis Presley canon is reorganized. If anything, it's a sheer mess. Granted, Ernst (or to be correct BMG aka Sony/BMG) has released a volume of previously unheard material. But to be fair, the catalog is in shambles. How many of Elvis' original albums can be found in stores as they were originally presented while Elvis was living. Only a handful at this moment and most of them are the recent Camden reissues, which Ernst is not overseeing, rather the Custom Marketing Department of Sony/BMG.
I really don't think you can blame Ernst for this; and don't forget he is currently busy making the original EP albums available in the FTD Classic albums series. The catalogue was a mess when Ernst started cleaning it up, but in the end it's always "the suits" at BMG who decide which albums are to released.
Also for every commercial success that Ernst has had he's had an equal number of flops:
Command Performances: The Essential 60's Masters II - Again, Ernst (and BMG) shortchanged Elvis' movie soundtracks from the '60s down to a 2 CD set.
Walk A Mile In My Shoes: The Essential 70's Masters - Ernst (and BMG) shortchange Elvis' studio output in the '70s, leaving us with only four discs of the studio recordings and a disc of several rehashed live recordings.
It was clear from the start of the project it could only be five discs. Ernst wanted to include live recordings, and I for one think he was absolutely right about that. And the selection is excellent, the only track I miss on this set is "Early Morning Rain", and, really, I can live with that. The live disc works great, too.
That's The Way It Is Special Edition (3 CD Set) - mentioned many of the errors in previous thread (crappy sound on "Oh Happy Day, etc.; omission of studio versions (single versions) of "I've Lost You" and "Patch It Up"; inclusion of "Rags To Riches" despite being recorded a month after the film wrapped.
Agreed. Could have been better. But the live disc is the best we've ever gotten.
Essential Elvis Volumes 5 and 6 - On volume 5, too many song snippets lapped over the beginning of the actual track (example: Lovin' Arms)
Essential 6 suffered due to the fact that it lacked many outtakes from the hits from this era 1960-1964.
I absolutely love both discs, they are among my favourite Elvis CDs ever. And while Ernst might have played around a little with the intros/snippets the result is a very enjoyable album.
Artist Of The Century - cheap packaging, lousy artwork and poor song selection ("Memphis, Tennessee" and Ernst (BMG) again shortchanged Elvis in the '70s).
Poor song selection? Oh, boy. What about the best compilation ever?!
Live In Las Vegas (4 CD boxset) - way too much song duplication, use of the Feb. '70/'72 masters, omits the '71, '73 and '76 Las Vegas engagements altogether. Crappy sound on the '69 show and moves the monologue to the end of the CD instead of leaving it as it was.
Agreed, this set was a major disappointment. But at least, again we got a fantastic August '70 show. The 70/72 disc was a joke, though...
Close Up - tried miserably to duplicate the success of "Today, Tomorrow And Forever", even using the same artwork template. The San Antonio show was great, but I felt like I was listening to 4 FTDs. BTW, who wants to listen to a disc of outtakes made up strictly from "G.I. Blues", "Flaming Star", "Wild In The Country" and "Blue Hawaii". B-O-R-I-N-G!!!
Agreed. But part of the problem was the lack of exciting unreleased material. This probably should have been released as four FTD's instead!
Second To None - a cheap knockoff with crappy cover art to capitalize on the success of Bendeth's 30 #1 Hits. Poor song selection ("I Forgot To Remember To Forget" isn't going to cut it with the general public). BTW, where's "Blue Christmas", a song that is well known and that still gets considerable radio airplay during the holidays by both oldies and country radio stations.
Elvis At Sun - easily surpassed by Pirzada's MRS Volumes 1 & 2.
You can't be serious!!!
Even some of Ernst's "success" could be questioned, for example: "Platinum: A Life In Music" features almost a quarter of it's material as previously released.
But wasn't that the whole point? To mix hits with unreleased material to create an alternative "best of Elvis"?! A box set that would appeal to casual fans as well as collectors...
Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:01 pm
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