All posts with more than 3000 Hits, prior to 2008

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:19 pm

hey midnightx,

when comparing the medley, i always felt the omaha version E.P was
slow and flat. Rapid City seems to these ears anyway
to be sharper and his movement around the stage, a tad faster.

Question my friend: You don't really expect a big commercial
company like BMG/SONY would eventually release ALL multitracked 1969 Vegas
(and for that matter Vegas 1970) concerts do you?
What would be the point, when the content of 1969 shows were virtually
the same? The Vegas 1970 ones had slightly more variety and i would
kill just to get my hands on the tapes in the vaults, but in my heart of
hearts, i do not expect it would be economically viable for B.M.G or
even F.T.D to release ALL the multittracked concerts.

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:33 pm

Robt wrote:hey midnightx,

when comparing the medley, i always felt the omaha version E.P was
slow and flat. Rapid City seems to these ears anyway
to be sharper and his movement around the stage, a tad faster.

Both versions are completely pathetic.


Robt wrote: Question my friend: You don't really expect a big commercial
company like BMG/SONY would eventually release ALL multitracked 1969 Vegas
(and for that matter Vegas 1970) concerts do you?
What would be the point, when the content of 1969 shows were virtually
the same? The Vegas 1970 ones had slightly more variety and i would
kill just to get my hands on the tapes in the vaults, but in my heart of
hearts, i do not expect it would be economically viable for B.M.G or
even F.T.D to release ALL the multittracked concerts.

As mainstream releases, No. But, since Sony/BMG have a collector's label called FTD, there is no reason to think that a handful of the multitrack live recordings from August 69 will not be offered at some point. Most likely, the majority of the tapes have been mixed and possibly mastered. What good does it do to have tapes of shows of that caliber sitting around in the vaults when there is a collector's audience out in the market place willing to purchase releases? It is probably a 50/50 chance that half or more are ultimately issued, but the audience is there and willing to pay, so maybe FTD will deliver with some sort of boxset of additional shows as an extra release.

Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:39 am

:shock: I note that since July 11th the 2nd disc track-listing is announced and matches perfectly the unreleased 22.8.69 Dinner Show.

Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:32 am

hey YDKM,

Thanks for the information.

It could still be a rehash of FTD's ELVIS AT THE INTERNATIONAL but
minus "Reconsider Baby".
We'll just have to wait and see and hear when it does surfaces.

Also why did BMG/SONY fail to make the date known prior to july 11?

And why are different countries getting different configuations of V.L.V?

Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:15 am

Robt wrote:Also why did BMG/SONY fail to make the date known prior to july 11?

And why are different countries getting different configuations of V.L.V?

Because as usual, with the EP catalogue, they like being completely incompetent. No mystery there....

Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:53 am

hey midnightx,

maybe the folks at BMG/FTD should appoint you as the promoter
of EP releases and provide you with detailed information re: dates
of concerts to in turn pass on to us.

still reluctant to buy yet another (...yawning ...) 1969 show.

Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:47 am

Robt wrote:hey midnightx,

maybe the folks at BMG/FTD should appoint you as the promoter
of EP releases and provide you with detailed information re: dates
of concerts to in turn pass on to us.

still reluctant to buy yet another (...yawning ...) 1969 show.

Not enough job security at a record label. Forget it. Still, it is marketing 101, if you want to maximize sales of a new EP release with possible unreleased live vault material, it may make sense to let potential consumers know what show is being released. But after botching this release, BMG can complain that there weren't enough sales and interest and that is why they are planning on issuing another movie and hits compilation instead for the 2008 release campaign.

No need to worry about purchasing another 69 show. You can go ahead and continue knocking yourself out with those drug-induced and lackluster affairs from the majority of 1976. Nothing like those 20 minute band introductions and DJ's 5 minute voice bombing routine.... :smt035

Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:23 am

hey midnightx,

thanks for your comments. If and it's a big if, this is really going to feature
another unreleased 1969 show then i do not see how it
would offer anything new then what ELVIS AT THE INTERNATIONAL
or ALL SHOOK UP releases on ftd, same songs sequencing, same dialogue etc. Also if this is such a great representation of '69, why wouldn't EJ had release it
first instead of the two predeccesors?

it is not true to say that i enjoy the 1976/77 period more! I prefer
1970 (Feb and August).

Midnightx did you hear an interesting marketing gimmick involving PRINCE and some newspaper in England have just done? His new album/CD was
released as a freebie for anyone buying a copy of the newspaper, which
printed extra copies on Sunday.

Methinks BMG/SONY should do likewise on a Elvis cd.

Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:43 am

:shock: Hey whilst i know its bound to be very,very similar to previously released shows STILL I just KNOW i'm going to enjoy it! :lol:

Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:05 pm

Hi Gang,
BMG has informed us that it is an AUG 21st show.
However they could not confirm whether it was the Dinner or Midnight show as the sleeve had not been printed as yet.

A friend has heard a preview copy and says the tracklist did not match the tracklist that accompanied his preview disc.
To him it "sounded like" a dinner show.

Hopefully I will get my hot little hands on a copy soon,

Cheers
Piers

Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:10 pm

[quote

Question my friend: You don't really expect a big commercial
company like BMG/SONY would eventually release ALL multitracked 1969 Vegas
(and for that matter Vegas 1970) concerts do you?
What would be the point, when the content of 1969 shows were virtually
the same? The Vegas 1970 ones had slightly more variety and i would
kill just to get my hands on the tapes in the vaults, but in my heart of
hearts, i do not expect it would be economically viable for B.M.G or
even F.T.D to release ALL the multittracked concerts.[/quote]

If BMG/FTD can release soundboards that offer both bad sound and a tracklist that is nothing special they should indeed release all multi-track shows to the fans.I`m not a big fan of the 69 shows due to boring tracklisting for the most part but I rather have these shows than 90% of the soundboards released last 5 years.
I`m not complaining though cause I just skip the cds I dont want.....pleny of other releases to enjoy.

Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:34 pm

hey Piers and King Elvis,

My friends,

That's great news if it is either the D.S or M.S Aug 21 1969.
Intersesting they've left it until now to reveal the date.

I am still reluctant to get it....unless....it's a better 1969 show than
either ALL SHOOK UP or ELVIS AT THE INTERNATIONAL.

I'll look forward to reading what other fans have to say.

Personally i don't expect it to be no better or no worse. This is the point
i was trying to make: Why 1969 yet again at the exclusion
of other milestone era's (like Aug 1970)?

Also what is their reasoning of not releasing it worldwide, particularly the
U.S market?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:41 am

:lol: If its the 21st Aug 69 Dinner Show that 'great' but why did they edit out the performance of "words?" :roll:

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:52 am

It feels to me like a full release of the August 21, 1969 MS -- which RCA released a little bit of on Collector's Gold back in 1990, and was heard in greater part long before that, on the classic 1977 bootleg LP, The Legend Lives On.

Hot damn right.

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:58 am

hey DOC and YDKM

Ideally it would be great if it is the Aug 21 D.S as none of it has been
issued before, not even on the classic COLLECTORS GOLD.

Thus far, only the intros from the M.S was included on C.G.
but that would be good one if the complete M.S is released for the 1969 purists.

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:05 am

Robt wrote:Ideally it would be great if it is the Aug 21 D.S as none of it has been issued before, not even on the classic COLLECTORS GOLD.

Unless you've heard the DS, your comment is almost meaningless.

The MS -- as with most from this debut engagement -- gives us an Elvis on fire, and the version of "What'd I Say" is astonishing. The MS is the one to look forward to, based on all available evidence, including the circulating audience tape.

WHAT'D I SAY

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:22 am

If it is the show including the version of "What'd I say" that was included on the "Legend lives on" bootleg LP, that would be good. IMO, this is the best live version of "What'd I say" from that season. It subsequently turned up in better sound on one of the "Legendary performer" bootleg cd's (albeit with a slight 'skip'.)

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:23 am

hey DOC,

Indeed ! I remember the classic LEGEND LIVES ON vinyl boot that
contained some performances from 21 Aug M.S.

But Doc one point: What if it turns out that either D.S or M.S has been
remixed by Dennis Ferrante some years ago? If his past mixing jobs was
an indication, the Aug 21 DS or MS will leave a lot to be desired.

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:30 am

Robt wrote:But Doc one point: What if it turns out that either D.S or M.S has been remixed by Dennis Ferrante some years ago? If his past mixing jobs was an indication, the Aug 21 DS or MS will leave a lot to be desired.


That is a matter of personal preference, on the whole I have been satisfied with Dennis Ferrante's mixing efforts.

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:38 am

Matthew wrote: on the whole I have been satisfied with Dennis Ferrante's mixing efforts.


They're ok if, on one release, you don't mind the piano being mixed almost completely out, or, as was the case with James Burton's guitar solo on "What'd i say" on the "Live in Las Vegas" box set, you don't mind it being 'subdued' by mucking around with the volume control!!! That was a criminal act.

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:56 am

Finally was able to reset my password (I keep forgetting it).. thanks, PEP!

Just found out for myself - it's the midnight show. Should be cool!

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:02 am

And so how did you "found out" it is the M.S?

Where did you get that information from?

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:41 am

TONY wrote:
Matthew wrote: on the whole I have been satisfied with Dennis Ferrante's mixing efforts.


They're ok if, on one release, you don't mind the piano being mixed almost completely out, or, as was the case with James Burton's guitar solo on "What'd i say" on the "Live in Las Vegas" box set, you don't mind it being 'subdued' by mucking around with the volume control!!! That was a criminal act.


That is why I wrote "on the whole". I can name various other occurrences where his efforts have been rewarding to my ears: TTWII Disc 2, Promised Land 2000, Polk Salad Annie FTD to name three. There is evidence available to hold up both sides of the argument. The point I was trying to make was to not write of this new show before hearing it, whether it is a stockpiled mix or not

Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:38 am

Robt wrote:And so how did you "found out" it is the M.S?

Where did you get that information from?


I helped with text translation and found a couple matches. Text and audio are two different things, though, so we'll know for sure when the release comes out, but I'd bet that's it. :)

Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:31 am

has sony indicated when this 69 live show will be distributed in the u.s., if at all?