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Scott Haigh 781990EP wrote:You also hear the opinions of the two living Beatles, which put me off because they only seemed to support the early Evis, and almost completely despised Elvis's Vegas image, and even the band, which was disappointing to hear.
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Scott Haigh 781990EP wrote:Oh i got confused ...
Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:56 pm
Scott Haigh 781990EP wrote:
Have a little bit of trivia, which really, i thought was'nt true, but coming from the writer Jerry Leiber himself, maybe it is. Jerry was at one of Elvis's MSG concerts, as he apparently been invited by the man himself. He left the concert a little early, thinking there'd be a stampede when Elvis was about to leave
On the desk the next day, was the telegram from Elvis, saying :Why'd you leave?
Out of 20,000 people, Elvis picked him out!!
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KempoDick wrote:The best song of the whole set is "Clambake", a shame it wasn't recorded by Elvis.
Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:52 pm
I was intrigued by Mae Boren Axton's comments about Heartbreak Hotel.
She claims she wrote it for Elvis.
Co-writer Tommy Durden sang it, but she didn't think it was 'Elvisy' enough, so they got Glenn Reeves to do the demo in the Elvis style.
Well, two things:
1] Elvis hadn't sung anything in that style before, so what did Reeves base his version on ?
2] She doesn't explain [or even mention] how come they offered it to the Wilburn Brothers first !
I reckon her memories of it all have been coloured by the events that followed.
We may never know as Mae died in 1997, aged 82.
Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:44 am
... (The) dismissal of later Elvis (not even meaning 1970 but often post 1960) shows up that much of the open mindedness of the counter culture was kind of an empty facade. You were free to do your thing but your own thing had better fit into selected guidelines. And you had better have come from a certain background or even if you fit or tried to fit the guidelines you weren't welcome at the party.
The counter culture opened up a lot of avenues in music and movies and was sometimes a springboard for real world positive change. However, it also established an arbitrary, limited, eventually boring and destructive aesthetic. That aesthetic wound up separating rock music from its originators and working class and popular origins. It also wound up denigrating the lives and tastes of anyone who came from a different tradition or preferred a different tradition. For years for instance Bobby Darin was dismissed for years and years simply because he had some talent as a rock and roll singer yet preferred straight pop.
The need to conform to the rigid aesthetic has led to the constant underevaluation of the Four Seasons who dared to make their contribution to popular music through the vehicle of the hit single.
It also established an incredibly arbitrary double standard for betraying your roots and making an artistic statement. For instance hardly anything on Sgt Pepper rocks. Yet we recognize that the Beatles want to go somewhere that the standard rock performance style can't take them. It is very hyprocritical not to extend Elvis that same allowance. If Elvis wants a bigger, perhaps more sophisticated sound on his records using strings and horns to complement his sound why is that not a valid artistic approach. Why is it ok for the Beatles to be eclectic and not for Elvis? When Elvis is singing a track like "My Way" he's trying to break new ground for himself as much as the Beatles were. And that live show in Vegas was breaking the most ground of all by trying to incorporate nearly all of the strands of the American Popular music experience into 60 minutes and sometimes into even one song. That's not Elvis on cruise control or Elvis selling out. That's the height of artistic ambition.
Similarly critics may roll their lives when Merle Haggard or Elvis (or Johnny Cash or any of dozens of others of country rooted singers) trot some sentimental tribute to the virtues of home and motherhood like Elvis' "Mama Liked the Roses". It's something that's important to them and just as legitimate an artistic statement as protest against the Viet Nam war. I would say the same thing about many of the divorce ballads particularly a piece as a carefully and artfully rendered as "Separate Ways". What the late '60s boomer based criticism does is actually try dictate to an artist what he or she should find important....
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