THEM DAMN BOOTLEGS...!

Mike, don't forget that although Can't Help Faling In Love is complete on the FTD, the FTD has parts missing on Are You Lonesome Tonight (some pre-song dialogue removed) and there is also dialogue removed from the end of I Got A Woman. Strange to have a 'complete' FTD with dialogue removed

Of course those fans that would not get there hands on bootlegs are doing themselves an injustice as the boot release of the New Years Eve show does NOT have this 'mastering error' (sound is similar to 'sizzling sausages on a frying pan').....unless of course the person doing this recording was cooking sausages at the same time he was recording Elvis with his tape recorder

Perhaps that was Lamar preparing a snack too close to the tape recorder.

Mike, don't forget that although Can't Help Faling In Love is complete on the FTD, the FTD has parts missing on Are You Lonesome Tonight (some pre-song dialogue removed) and there is also dialogue removed from the end of I Got A Woman. Strange to have a 'complete' FTD with dialogue removed

Of course those fans that would not get there hands on bootlegs are doing themselves an injustice as the boot release of the New Years Eve show does NOT have this 'mastering error' (sound is similar to 'sizzling sausages on a frying pan').....unless of course the person doing this recording was cooking sausages at the same time he was recording Elvis with his tape recorder

Perhaps that was Lamar preparing a snack too close to the tape recorder.

For all vinyl-lovers another rare 10" boot.

Nice boots - am talking about the Sweets here!!

Just an update on my earlier post about the maker of Elvis Greatest S**t LP. Richard left the bootleg world beyond in the late 1980s as CDs took hold and went to work legimtaely for a music label.

__________ And Now The End Is Near... _____________

... After Vegas, Vic and I met up, at least another 3 times,

at his house in Glendale, California. The last time, would

have been in the summer of 1980...

Already, rumours had spread, RCA and the FBI, were

closing in on him, and his mates... Things were getting

very tense, at the Colonna house. For nights he would

be on the phone, non stop.

... The happy go lucky days were coming to an end.

In 81, not so long after his final release - The Million

Dollar Quartet - the FBI struck!

... All involved, with bootlegging got arrested.

It was the end of an Era.

Meanwhile, in Europe, my boss, and some friends

were having a beer, while listening to outtakes of

the title song Loving You. Fast and slow...

... A new Era, was just to begin...

This is getting to be like one of those radio serials from the thirties.....

"Tune in next week when Ger will say..........."

" The FBI then dragged Vic outside his Glendale pad and began beating him about the head and neck with broken shards of the LP "Our Memories Of Elvis".

Hey Ger...........where do I send the cereal boxtops for my secret decoder ring???

... Good grief, devil monkey, you!

One have to be American, or very old, like Colin, Maurice, and

me, to understand your humor! But I love it ~

I had a decoder Captain Marvel ring, once. But no instruction

form, to go with it! All them damn secret messages that have

been kept from me, all those years!

Scatter, I listened to radio serials in the early 50s have you never heard of "Dick Barton Special Agent"? Even movies were made of his daring do.

http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/dickbarton.htm

"Ger: The Movie" is long overdue!

http://press.xtvworld.com/article11751.html ANOTHER SERIAL

Scatter, I listened to radio serials in the early 50s have you never heard of "Dick Barton Special Agent"? Even movies were made of his daring do.

http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/dickbarton.htm

A crude and outlandishly transparent rip-off of America's own Dick Tracy.
Shameful.........the Brits steal our serial radio heroes, our music, but keep the Royal Family. Blimey........

"Ger: The Movie" is long overdue!

Who plays Ger??? Has to be Kramer from "Seinfeld"..........no one else could pull off the hair

http://press.xtvworld.com/article11751.html ANOTHER SERIAL

... If he can be shrunk, to a little under 6 feet, and add a few

kilos in weight, then, Yes! Kramer is my choice! Love his hair!

... Wasnt this a topic on bootlegs?!

Yes, the bootleg scene has certainly changed since those 'glory days' of the late '70s. These days only the Madison CDs excite me. I can't stand those Memory label rip-offs. Flashy packaging but crappy sound. Who buys this junk?

Yes, the bootleg scene has certainly changed since those 'glory days' of the late '70s. These days only the Madison CDs excite me. I can't stand those Memory label rip-offs. Flashy packaging but crappy sound. Who buys this junk?

I think the fan scene changed a lot. The bootleggers still want to deliver a good job (at least the serious ones), but they just can't do it anymore.
The day you release a bootleg, you'll find it somewhere on the internet to download for free. "Fans" are trading and selling CDR copies of bootlegs.
Nowadays a fan wants to have everything, in superb quality, with great packaging and almost for free. Otherwise they'll go for a CDR.
If you consider that Pittsburgh sold 17.000 and today a good bootlegs sells 700-1000, you'll understand why nothing great can be released.

So even if you don't like the sound quality of the Memorie CDs, if there's something on it you don't already have .... be happy to have it now.
You can't expect from a bootlegger to invest a lot of money in remastering when most of the copies sold will be CDRs.

PS don't take this personal Tits, I wasn't talking to you

Some bootleggers make money by producing counterfeits. Here is one of them.

This is the original 10" record (no sleeve was made)


and here's the counterfeit




Find the differences yourself

At 45 rpm ? how many songs are one it ? any outtakes or just masters ?

At 45 rpm ? how many songs are one it ? any outtakes or just masters ?

There are no alternate takes or complete songs on it.
It's a promotion record for Blue Hawaii that could be played in cinemas.
You'll hear an announcer plus segments of No More, Blue Hawaii, Moonlight Swim and Almost Always True.
At the end the announcer says: Coming soon in this cinema (in German).

It's a one sided records by the way.

At 45 rpm ? how many songs are one it ? any outtakes or just masters ?

There are no alternate takes or complete songs on it.
It's a promotion record for Blue Hawaii that could be played in cinemas.
You'll hear an announcer plus segments of No More, Blue Hawaii, Moonlight Swim and Almost Always True.
At the end the announcer says: Coming soon in this cinema (in German).

It's a one sided records by the way.

cool ! bootleg or not, i'd like to have one

At 45 rpm ? how many songs are one it ? any outtakes or just masters ?

There are no alternate takes or complete songs on it.
It's a promotion record for Blue Hawaii that could be played in cinemas.
You'll hear an announcer plus segments of No More, Blue Hawaii, Moonlight Swim and Almost Always True.
At the end the announcer says: Coming soon in this cinema (in German).

It's a one sided records by the way.

cool ! bootleg or not, i'd like to have one

Could be expensive
As I remember well only 100 copies were made of the bootleg, must have been in the early 80s.
I've only once seen a copy for sale, that was about 10 years ago and the price was around 175 euros.
Forget about the original record.

I have to jump in here on the different sources of Pittsburg 31 dec 1976.

This second source has the COMPLETE show (okay missing a little bit of Polk salad that has been edited in from another recording).
For the best balanced sound and best quality, this second source is THE BEST!
The person who recorded this imho deserves GREAT credit for recording this show the way he did.

Also this recording DOES have the entire Elvis has left the building announcement.
PLUS an extra 23 seconds of further announcements about souvenirs.
"We'd like to remind you that for a short while .. Elvis super souvenir concession stand will be open.
If you didn't get your souvenir of your evening with Elvis please be sure to do so before you leave.
Thank you for coming.
Be careful driving home.
Goodnight.

This is the only source that is totally complete and has NO weird hamburger cooking sounds in it.

The quality IS BETTER then the Auld lang syne 2cd.
Only slightly noisier then the FTD, but then again the sound has been untempered with and is the raw original recording.

Just my 2 cents on this show.

Doc,

I take it the 2nd audience source also does not have the "EHLTB" announcement on it either. Isn't that funny. So many pictures, videos (6 sources known at last count!!!), and multiple audio documents of this show, and yet the show was so long, we still have no record of the last seconds!

Some bootleggers make money by producing counterfeits. Here is one of them.

This is the original 10" record (no sleeve was made)


and here's the counterfeit




Find the differences yourself

This was also recently released on a CD

I have to jump in here on the different sources of Pittsburg 31 dec 1976.

I won't comment on the second source...

But by the way, don't make it that the FTD is that bad. Despite those few "crackin' good" moments (and that's all they are), from what I understand, it's still the best source ever used (other ones are once removed generationally), although they may have waited to too long to do the remastering...

I'm not saying the FTD is bad.
You're right that other sources are a 1st generation copy.
I have a 1st generation copy of that 2nd source. (I'm not going to reveal who made the master. That's up to the source itself)
And I do believe it is better sound wise (Elvis voice and instrumentals and background singers is better balanced) then the FTD source. If FTD had used the master tape of that source I am willing to bet on it that the quality of the FTD would have been even better.

For that reason I've never bought the ftd.

I have to jump in here on the different sources of Pittsburg 31 dec 1976.

I won't comment on the second source...

But by the way, don't make it that the FTD is that bad. Despite those few "crackin' good" moments (and that's all they are), from what I understand, it's still the best source ever used (other ones are once removed generationally), although they may have waited to too long to do the remastering...

Basically, the source that FTD used is very good sounding. It is the same source as used for vinyl release and then ROCKING NEW YEARS EVE CD and AULD LANG SYNE 2 CD set. AULD LANG SYNE sound is pretty bad - due to denoising and other manipulations, actually old vinyl is sounding better than this.

FTD - unfortunately there are stupid mastering errors in several places.

2nd source that merry 77 mentioned - independent tape, the sound is excellent, possible say better than the 1st source (better fidelity), in any case different with audience not so prominent in places. Btw it was released on bootleg CD (real CD) too - this rip off bootlegger used your own CDR, merry 77...

... The Auld Lang Syne double, on Live Archives was mastered

directly from a mint set of unplayed Test Pressings, from the

Vic Colonna collection. My boss, handed these over to the

guys, behind this project. Even was nice enough, to throw in

the cover design. He cant remember, ever having heard the

final result. And no copy is available, in his library...


... Mr Flash, is you still on holiday? Im sure, some here like

to see the photos. Especially the one of Ernst and Peter

Guralnick, posing in the room, that once was the NY RCA

Recording Studio! It would be ever so nice, if you can put

them up here...!

I have to jump in here on the different sources of Pittsburg 31 dec 1976.

This second source has the COMPLETE show (okay missing a little bit of Polk salad that has been edited in from another recording).
For the best balanced sound and best quality, this second source is THE BEST!
The person who recorded this imho deserves GREAT credit for recording this show the way he did.

Also this recording DOES have the entire Elvis has left the building announcement.
PLUS an extra 23 seconds of further announcements about souvenirs.
"We'd like to remind you that for a short while .. Elvis super souvenir concession stand will be open.
If you didn't get your souvenir of your evening with Elvis please be sure to do so before you leave.
Thank you for coming.
Be careful driving home.
Goodnight.

This is the only source that is totally complete and has NO weird hamburger cooking sounds in it.

The quality IS BETTER then the Auld lang syne 2cd.
Only slightly noisier then the FTD, but then again the sound has been untempered with and is the raw original recording.

Just my 2 cents on this show.

Doc,

I take it the 2nd audience source also does not have the "EHLTB" announcement on it either. Isn't that funny. So many pictures, videos (6 sources known at last count!!!), and multiple audio documents of this show, and yet the show was so long, we still have no record of the last seconds!

I'm glad you jumped in here and confirmed this... I didn't want to speak out of turn or step on anyones foot... but yea I can also concur with what Merry77 has said...

...and it most definalty has the end announcements.

I think this is why I was so upset with the "New Years Eve" FTD, because I expected it to be at least this good or better... it's not.

JEFF d
EP fan