Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:27 pm
Rob wrote:Hammer wrote:And I know for a fact that he never knew a girl called Sylvia
You are joking, right?
Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:28 pm
Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:32 pm
Rob wrote:Hey! Just because he sang these songs doesn't mean that he has to actually live them and.......uh........everything else that Colin said.
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 pm
Rob wrote:ColinB wrote:Hey, lighten up guys !
When a performer sings a song, they are like an actor playing a role.
The lyrics don't have to apply to them personally !
Elvis can sing about 'she took my small baby boy' and 'I was raised on rock'
These are songs, sung for their entertainment value, not autobiographical statements.
Believe it or not, I know all of this. My post was intended to be a joke.
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:49 pm
elvis1977br wrote:1 - CONFIDENCE !!!
2- Queniie...
3-Old MC
4- Yoga is
5- He´s your uncle...
Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:23 pm
Rob wrote:Whew! I feel so much better about you now.
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:44 pm
Hammer wrote:They could be nice guys, I don't know about that. I'm just not too fond of hippies and the hippie-movement and the Beales were much involved in that
Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:03 pm
Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:55 pm
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:08 am
JLGB wrote:Not even Elvis loved a lot of stuff he recorded. So why should we? He even wrote or spoke to people at RCA not to release Dominic.
Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:07 am
familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:They could be nice guys, I don't know about that. I'm just not too fond of hippies and the hippie-movement and the Beales were much involved in that
I meant that no-talent entertainers might be nice guys, I didn't mean The Beatles - I don't think it's even relevant whether they were nice or not.
You're not fond of the hippie movement? Jeez, is that still an issue for you? Get over it - it was 40 years ago. They left a great book of songs - it'd be a shame for you not to enjoy the music because of some age-old cultural prejudice.
Jules
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:06 pm
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:14 pm
Hammer wrote:They're still around and I dislike their general attitude and the fact that they mix music (which is one of the best things in life) with politics (which is one of the most awful things in life)
Jeroen
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:45 pm
familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:They're still around and I dislike their general attitude and the fact that they mix music (which is one of the best things in life) with politics (which is one of the most awful things in life)
Jeroen
Jeroen, all human life is politics!
Lyrics in song can embrace all aspects of human life. To limit that to the shallow and the ephemeral seems to me to be a great shame.
Why the need to compartmentalise life? It's all one experience.
How much of a hippie do I sound now?![]()
Jules
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:03 pm
Mike DK wrote:He should not have recorded about 80% of the movie-songs he did in the 60's. What a waste of talent. Just imagine the great records he could have made......
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:18 pm
Hammer wrote:I hope not everything in life is politics and I believe that a lot of music is about feelings, having fun, being crazy and true emotions....all things that have nothing to do with politics (damn that sounds pretty hippie as well)
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:20 pm
familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:I hope not everything in life is politics and I believe that a lot of music is about feelings, having fun, being crazy and true emotions....all things that have nothing to do with politics (damn that sounds pretty hippie as well)
Feelings, having fun and true emotions - well a lot of that would come under sexual politics! Heh.
Jules
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:24 pm
Hammer wrote:familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:I hope not everything in life is politics and I believe that a lot of music is about feelings, having fun, being crazy and true emotions....all things that have nothing to do with politics (damn that sounds pretty hippie as well)
Feelings, having fun and true emotions - well a lot of that would come under sexual politics! Heh.
Jules
.......see now we're finally getting somewhere
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:25 pm
familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:familyjules wrote:Hammer wrote:I hope not everything in life is politics and I believe that a lot of music is about feelings, having fun, being crazy and true emotions....all things that have nothing to do with politics (damn that sounds pretty hippie as well)
Feelings, having fun and true emotions - well a lot of that would come under sexual politics! Heh.
Jules
.......see now we're finally getting somewhere
I think there was a British group from the 1960s who wrote a lot about sexual politics.....oh yes - The Beatles!
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Jules
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:36 pm
He should not have recorded about 80% of the movie-songs he did in the 60's.
What a waste of talent.
Just imagine the great records he could have made......
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:57 pm
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:16 pm
ColinB wrote:Mike -
You wrote:He should not have recorded about 80% of the movie-songs he did in the 60's.
What a waste of talent.
Just imagine the great records he could have made......
Hmmm.................
For me, he started going off the rails even before the 60's soundtracks took over.
The material selected for Pot Luck & Something For Everybody was becoming a bit 'middle-of-the-road' for old rockers like me.
After the promise of Elvis Is Back, which touched on many different musical genres, he seemed to settle for a rather bland repertoire on these, his last two studio albums before the film stuff got its stranglehold on his output.
Not rock, not blues, not even good commercial 'pop'.
Instead we got stuff like Kiss Me Quick and Gently - not really such bad songs but simply music without balls !
Whether his material would have toughened up with his next studio album we never found out; the soundtracks dominated for most of the 60's.
Right at the end of the decade, he started getting 'on message' again with things like Guitar Man, and with the '69 American Sound Studio session he was back at the top of his form.
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:25 pm
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:47 pm
Okay, what do you think, say, of "You'll Be Gone"?
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:17 pm
ColinB wrote:
After the promise of Elvis Is Back, which touched on many different musical genres, he seemed to settle for a rather bland repertoire on these, his last two studio albums before the film stuff got its stranglehold on his output.
Not rock, not blues, not even good commercial 'pop'.
Instead we got stuff like Kiss Me Quick and Gently - not really such bad songs but simply music without balls !
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