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Re: New FTD's delivered

Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:27 pm

George Smith wrote:
memphisflash wrote:
monkboughtlunch wrote:The Whistling Blues instrumental is a joy -- anyone have any more info on this track? Was this used on the original film, and has this track been officially released by RCA/BMG/Sony before this FTD? It sounds like there is more than one lead guitarist (one guitar has a distinct neck pickup tone and the other a bridge pickup). Is that Scotty and Tiny trading licks back and forth? Anyone know who played which licks? And who is playing drums? Fontana, Bode or Mattinson?


I believe it's was played by the band just before "GI Blues", i think it was right after the scene when the sergeant picked out the redhead to be his date for the evening ...

I'm writing without checking here but I'm pretty sure that "A Whistling Blues" is not the instrumental used in the movie: that piece remains unidentified and unreleased. I will agree that it is a cool performance and it would be lovely to know if Elvis himself features.

The instrumental being played in the movie just before they do 'G.I. Blues' is the instrumental of 'Shoppin' Around' (AO - Take 3), which sadly doesn't exist on tape now. This is why Take 4 of the instrumental is used on FTD's first volume of "G.I. Blues", as it's the only other complete take existing on tape.

'Whistling Blues' wasn't actually used at all in the movie, although it was intended to be used (Scene 58) after Elvis sings "G.I. Blues" (Scenes 50 - 56). This was changed to the background music we hear in the movie which is called "Besorgt Blues".

Scan 1 - GI Blues Movie Sequence.jpg

Scan 2 - GI Blues Movie Sequence.jpg


(Thanks to David English for the information regarding "Besorgt Blues").

Keith
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Re: New FTD's delivered

Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:58 pm

Hi there!! :D :D :D.

drjohncarpenter wrote:
"can´t/won´t match"?

Why do you always seem to find a way to complain about FTD?.


I am not complaining, but the book that is included on the Rebooked boxset doesn´t fit the 7" FTD release, it is that big. By the way how many FTD releases do you have?. I have them all :smt005.

drjohncarpenter wrote:How much do you think the people behind that reissue box set paid for the rights to the photos used in that "amazing" book? Here's the answer: $0.00. That makes a big difference compared to what FTD can and cannot do with their products. And the books they have released have been mostly phenomenal.


I don´t know how much they paid, but probably the same as Gravel Road paid, the label that you so much praise! :wink:.

drjohncarpenter wrote:Given your constant reminders about how much you collect, there is no way you are unaware of this fact. So it makes your put-downs of FTD even more irksome.


Here we go again :smt021, attacking me about my collecting habits to put me down as always smt188. This is very childish on your part smt179. Bye for now :smt006.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:46 pm

Mike Windgren wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:"can´t/won´t match"?

Why do you always seem to find a way to complain about FTD?.


I am not complaining,


Then you need to find a way to express yourself better, as your post is absolutely complaining, your previous posts on FTD almost always contain some kind of complaint, and it is very irksome to read these. That's not an "attack," that's my opinion (and that of many here) based on what you choose to write.

As for your other comments, I have every FTD released to date, and your non-answer about Rebooked underscores my original point. You are being disingenuous, just as I said. Thanks.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:06 pm

Hi there!! :D :D :D.

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mike Windgren wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:"can´t/won´t match"?

Why do you always seem to find a way to complain about FTD?.


I am not complaining,


Then you need to find a way to express yourself better, as your post is absolutely complaining, your previous posts on FTD almost always contain some kind of complaint, and it is very irksome to read these. That's not an "attack," that's my opinion (and that of many here) based on what you choose to write.

As for your other comments, I have every FTD released to date, and your non-answer about Rebooked underscores my original point. You are being disingenuous, just as I said. Thanks.


You´re welcome! smt177. Bye for now :smt006.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:27 am

Keith wrote:It's great that there is a new version of "Shoppin' Around" on the set too that has never been released before, which isn't listed on the previous track listing flyers either.
gibluesvolume2_02.JPG


This acetate was up for auction earlier this year and it looks like Ernst (or FTD) won it!
gibluesacetate_shoppinaround_B0_14.jpg


By any chance, does this acetate derive from the collection of Joseph J. Lilley? There is a note in the booklet thanking Mary Lilley for her continued support.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:24 am

Mike C wrote:By any chance, does this acetate derive from the collection of Joseph J. Lilley? There is a note in the booklet thanking Mary Lilley for her continued support.


That seems very likely. ;-)

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:26 am

Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:17 am

L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


431100_Ginger Rogers_Joseph Lilley_Lady In The Dark.JPG
Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


540800_Danny Kaye_Joseph Lilley_White Christmas.jpg
Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/
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Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:01 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


431100_Ginger Rogers_Joseph Lilley_Lady In The Dark.JPG
Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


540800_Danny Kaye_Joseph Lilley_White Christmas.jpg
Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/



Okay, pretty interesting, thanks.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:15 am

:D Both my FTD's arrived today and i'm listening to the Closing 1970 show now.To my ears(having re cently listened to the bootleg of this show 10 days ago) the Sound is much better fuller, clearer and better balanced.Sure bits of mike overload can be heard at times but this is the best i have heard this show. Opening show sounds somewhat 'fuller' and slightly less distorted so good solid sound work MUST had had the time spent HERE Booklet and liner notes seem superb also. BEST i have heard these 2 shows maybe a 33% sound improvement? difficult to evaluate on a scale.Tommorow i start listening to the G.I.Blues set- but i know i'll be enjoying that too-the booklet is very neat~! 2 more winners from FTD i say!~ :wink: :roll: 8) :lol:

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:15 pm

L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


Image

Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


Image

Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/



Okay, pretty interesting, thanks.


That's it? Don't you want to talk about Lilley's work on "Easy Come, Easy Go"?

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:41 pm

I think the FTD releases of these shows are the ultimate, and I love the "fcuk you" attitude FTD has towards the bootleggers, particularly of previously released shows. Good work Ernst.

Its a good thing that the everyone doesn't use the same source, or do they? :twisted:

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:40 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


Image

Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


Image

Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/



Okay, pretty interesting, thanks.


That's it? Don't you want to talk about Lilley's work on "Easy Come, Easy Go"?



Okay let's do it. You first though because I don't know much about his work on ECEG.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:43 pm

YDKM wrote::D Both my FTD's arrived today and i'm listening to the Closing 1970 show now.To my ears(having re cently listened to the bootleg of this show 10 days ago) the Sound is much better fuller, clearer and better balanced.Sure bits of mike overload can be heard at times but this is the best i have heard this show. Opening show sounds somewhat 'fuller' and slightly less distorted so good solid sound work MUST had had the time spent HERE Booklet and liner notes seem superb also. BEST i have heard these 2 shows maybe a 33% sound improvement? difficult to evaluate on a scale.Tommorow i start listening to the G.I.Blues set- but i know i'll be enjoying that too-the booklet is very neat~! 2 more winners from FTD i say!~ :wink: :roll: 8) :lol:



Thanks for the observations. Your report is very encouraging. Hope you have some good things to say about GI Blues also.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:43 pm

Yes great that the 2 FTD's are its always a pity it takes YEARS after the bootlegs come out b4 this happens. that's the sad part-mostly they follow rather than lead. :|

Re: New FTD's delivered

Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:33 pm

Received GI Blues and On stage season today. No doubt that the 1970 shows sound better than ever.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:29 am

Just listened to the new G.I.Blues cd's..... in two words i say SOUND QUALITY is the reason for buying this. SUPERB!~ interesting to hear the lesser quality on the bonus track #20 on disc 2 of from acetate and the intrumentals of tracks such as 'Wooden Heart'... plays well throughout and i'll be spending my weekend listening again to 2 x fine FTD releases. 8)

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:04 am

L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


Image

Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


Image

Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/



Okay, pretty interesting, thanks.


That's it? Don't you want to talk about Lilley's work on "Easy Come, Easy Go"?



Okay let's do it. You first though because I don't know much about his work on ECEG.


Me first? After I posted all that?

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:43 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
L Ray wrote:Can we discuss who Lilley is and what recordings he might have? I don't know him.


Joseph J. Lilley was a songwriter, arranger and conductor who worked for Paramount Studios from 1944 to 1970. He died on January 2, 1971 from cancer, at the age of 57. You'll see his name in the credits for these Elvis films:

1960 G.I. Blues
1961 Blue Hawaii
1962 Girls! Girls! Girls!
1963 Fun in Acapulco
1964 Roustabout
1966 Paradise, Hawaiian Style
1967 Easy Come, Easy Go


Joseph J. Lilley - IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510360/


Image

Ginger Rogers works on the song "Jenny" with the vocal arranger for "Lady in the Dark," Joseph J. Lilley - circa November 1943
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/lady-in-the-dark/


Image

Danny Kaye talks with the music director of "White Christmas," Joseph J. Lilley - circa August 1954
http://acertaincinema.com/media-tags/piano/



Okay, pretty interesting, thanks.


That's it? Don't you want to talk about Lilley's work on "Easy Come, Easy Go"?



Okay let's do it. You first though because I don't know much about his work on ECEG.


Me first? After I posted all that?



Yes, but you are more knowledgeable in this area. So out of respect, I give you the floor.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Really do love the instrumentals on CD-2. Also it is amazing to hear the "Frankfort Special" takes sounding like 'Mystery Train' - and surprising that Elvis doesn't start singing, "train I'll ride" - nonetheless the formal tone of the sessions may have been a factor...

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:57 pm

a mess of polk salad wrote:Really do love the instrumentals on CD-2. Also it is amazing to hear the "Frankfort Special" takes sounding like 'Mystery Train' - and surprising that Elvis doesn't start singing, "train I'll ride" - nonetheless the formal tone of the sessions may have been a factor...
yeah thats what i thought and wooden hear is short but interesting too~! :D

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:10 pm

how do the sound on the opening and closing show compare to the other releases?

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:28 pm

YDKM wrote:
a mess of polk salad wrote:Really do love the instrumentals on CD-2. Also it is amazing to hear the "Frankfort Special" takes sounding like 'Mystery Train' - and surprising that Elvis doesn't start singing, "train I'll ride" - nonetheless the formal tone of the sessions may have been a factor...
yeah thats what i thought and wooden hear is short but interesting too~! :D

Yes "Wooden Heart" lovely sound.

Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:45 pm

Rob wrote:
a mess of polk salad wrote:"Frankfort Special" remake CD-2 has hints of "Mystery Train"

I wondered if anyone else would pick up on that. He could have easily gone into "Mystery Train" with that intro, and I kept waiting for him to.

What about Conway's "Long Black Train"? :wink: smt188

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Re: New FTD's delivered

Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:11 pm

a mess of polk salad wrote:Really do love the instrumentals on CD-2. Also it is amazing to hear the "Frankfort Special" takes sounding like 'Mystery Train' - and surprising that Elvis doesn't start singing, "train I'll ride" - nonetheless the formal tone of the sessions may have been a factor...


So Scotty borrowed from himself to come up with the Frankfort Special lick.