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Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 9:56 am

On my new (well, you know), I watched Midnight Cowboy in true HD! It was alarmingly great! Not just the picture and sound, of course. I think they may have restored some footage they had reserved due to its . . . uh, controversial nature? I don't know that. I know it was fantastic, and revelatory.

I took two days to watch it, and I'm glad I did, because I had a chance to think about it.

It struck me that perhaps it was Rizzo's desire that has been much overlooked, and not just his desire to be well. He's painted as a guy who puts down gay people by using a certain word a lot, but it is HIM, not Joe Buck, who has a genuine fantasy about himself and Joe that is truly sexual, and a happy fantasy. Joe's "fantasies" are generally traumatic. There is a flashback of him, as a child, in bed with an adult woman: his mother, I think. So, right there, they are telling you that he's been fudged up in some fashion, and sees nothing wrong with hustling as a career. In the other major flashback, he's caught parking with a girl, and terrible things are done while he's not dressed, and THEN, the girl cries rape on him!

Joe Buck has some nasty memories. And some big dreams. He's gonna be the Cowboy of New York City. Well, never did work out. But he learned to love, and perhaps not in a sexual way, but to love somebody, to care for somebody, unto death. It's beautiful that way. He found connection in a world of disconnection.

I want to know something: when he was with that guy at the end to get the 57 dollars (I think that was the amount), and the guy wouldn't pay, did he kill the guy? Or just really rough him up badly? Rizzo asks him, and he says he doesn't want to talk about it. Hate to think he killed the guy.

What a great picture, and it was like never seeing it before, due to the extreme picture quality! Wow!!!!!

rjm

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Last night I saw the Rob Zombie film "The Lords Of Salem"dont bother to see it ,it was dire and a waste of electricity

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 10:05 pm

Iron man 3D!
Yes!

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 10, 2013 6:54 am

Iron Man 2D. Yes!

And the whole TWILIGHT saga. Hey, it was a father / daughter thing, so be kind. I did enjoy yelling "You can't act!" at the TV screen though. :)

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 10, 2013 9:07 pm

I saw Star Trek: Into Darkness at the cinema yesterday -- J.J. Abrams second Star Trek picture, and a hugely exciting adventure that should further appeal to fans new, and old, alike. Here, with the stakes raised as Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison enters to wreak havoc at Starfleet in the form of a terrorist thought-to-be from within.

With the crew of the Enterprise having been (re)established in Abrams' first film, relationships are built upon as the passion and emotion of Kirk is at loggerheads with the logic and reasoning of Spock -- played superbly by Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. But it's Cumberbatch who continues to impress with a dark, menacing and hugely assertive turn. And amidst the action, of which there is tons, it's both his physicality and oral delivery that revertebrates. Especially when there's little time for pause, with an unrelenting pace and a knowing tone that allows for hammy nods and winks without ever resorting to camp. The special effects and set design are quite stunning throughout, with some serious lens flare into the bargain. I wasn't entirely enamoured with the 3D, however, and despite the entertainment value, a little more depth wouldn't have gone amiss. Still, it's a terrific ride and great sci-fi, with a few surprises that are unlikely to be avoided within broader discussion. So beware. Recommended.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 3:39 am

greystoke wrote:I saw Star Trek: Into Darkness at the cinema yesterday -- J.J. Abrams second Star Trek picture, and a hugely exciting adventure that should further appeal to fans new, and old, alike. Here, with the stakes raised as Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison enters to wreak havoc at Starfleet in the form of a terrorist thought-to-be from within.

With the crew of the Enterprise having been (re)established in Abrams' first film, relationships are built upon as the passion and emotion of Kirk is at loggerheads with the logic and reasoning of Spock -- played superbly by Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. But it's Cumberbatch who continues to impress with a dark, menacing and hugely assertive turn. And amidst the action, of which there is tons, it's both his physicality and oral delivery that revertebrates. Especially when there's little time for pause, with an unrelenting pace and a knowing tone that allows for hammy nods and winks without ever resorting to camp. The special effects and set design are quite stunning throughout, with some serious lens flare into the bargain. I wasn't entirely enamoured with the 3D, however, and despite the entertainment value, a little more depth wouldn't have gone amiss. Still, it's a terrific ride and great sci-fi, with a few surprises that are unlikely to be avoided within broader discussion. So beware. Recommended.


I may actually go! Several people in the Bill Shatner group on Facebook seriously liked it. I was surprised. Those folks are hard-core old school!

And your review indicates good character development. It isn't Trek without that. I hope the science is good, too. Those are necessary conditions for me.

\\//

rjm
P.S. -- Curious as to your thoughts on my recent "Midnight Cowboy" viewing experience.


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Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 3:38 pm

I should say, rjm, that my appreciation of character development and relationships being furthered in Star Trek: Into Darkness stems only from Abrams' two films. I've never been a fan of Star Trek, nor do I have a great knowledge of the Star Trek universe -- other than the bigger stuff. And the political undertones of the original series. But, from what I can appreciate in Into Darkness, out-with it being a fine sci-fi adventure in its own right (and what I'm not telling for the sake of spoilers) there's much to enjoy.

I enjoyed reading your review and thoughts on Midnight Cowboy. I've yet to see it in HD or purchase the Blu-ray, though. Still, I think you're right about Ratso's underlying sexual attraction to Joe. Which isn't something entirely concealed from viewers, despite the nature of his language, for which we should also consider the era, both in cinema and society. I do think that Joe killed Towny, however. Even if it's not entirely clear that he did, with regards to the subtext, he's killed a part of himself. That's not the case in the novel, where Joe doesn't kill him. But in the film, I believe this to be the case. Although, more important than whether Towny died, or not, is the effect of Joe's actions on himself, as a character, and how we subsequently feel about him.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 7:03 pm

Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 1:28 am

Went last night to see Star Trek: Into Darkness in 3D loved it had everything !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 11:05 am

rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Yeah, after half an hour I started to enjoy it - well, finally after all I AM a gore-hound! :D

Although it'll never come close to the original (there was no tension or atmosphere, only some jumpscares and gore).

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 12:34 pm

luckyjackson1 wrote:
rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Yeah, after half an hour I started to enjoy it - well, finally after all I AM a gore-hound! :D

Although it'll never come close to the original (there was no tension or atmosphere, only some jumpscares and gore).



:D good for you !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 5:37 pm

rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

I nearly missed Bruce Campbell in the post credit scene,average film though

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 7:28 pm

I mentioned this on the thread that had been started regarding the recent Evil Dead film, which I was very disappointed in, but found the final ten minutes (or so) to be worth the rest of the entire movie. Here, there was some real inspiration and influence from Raimi, with a manic turn and good camera work. Too little, too late, of course. But I just have to wonder where this was during the previous hour, with dull performances and no thrills or excitement.

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 7:32 pm

greystoke wrote:I mentioned this on the thread that had been started regarding the recent Evil Dead film, which I was very disappointed in, but found the final ten minutes (or so) to be worth the rest of the entire movie. Here, there was some real inspiration and influence from Raimi, with a manic turn and good camera work. Too little, too late, of course. But I just have to wonder where this was during the previous hour, with dull performances and no thrills or excitement.



Yeah it was a let down i was so looing forward to this movie too !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Tue May 14, 2013 2:05 pm

Watched 4 yesterday...

Jim Carrey & Steve Carell in The Incredible Burt Wonderlust: Really it was pretty dire and in fact I fell asleep.

Bradley Cooper, Eva Mendes in The Place Beyond The Pines:I didn't particularly care for the photography of this film but its an excellent crime drama, some excellent acting I thought and a really enjoyable storyline. Would recommend it.

Jason Statham & Jennifer Lopez in Parker: If you like the sort movies that Statham stars in then you will probably like this, it was very predictable and the highlight of the film was J-Lo in her underwear.

Maggie Smith, Billy Connolly plus more in Quartet Dustin Hoffman's directorial debut. This is a very charming movie, beautiful scenery throughout and about former musicians in a retirement home, recommended.

Re: last movie you watched

Tue May 14, 2013 5:54 pm

Julian Grant wrote:Watched 4 yesterday...

Jim Carrey & Steve Carell in The Incredible Burt Wonderlust: Really it was pretty dire and in fact I fell asleep.

Bradley Cooper, Eva Mendes in The Place Beyond The Pines:I didn't particularly care for the photography of this film but its an excellent crime drama, some excellent acting I thought and a really enjoyable storyline. Would recommend it.

Jason Statham & Jennifer Lopez in Parker: If you like the sort movies that Statham stars in then you will probably like this, it was very predictable and the highlight of the film was J-Lo in her underwear.

Maggie Smith, Billy Connolly plus more in Quartet Dustin Hoffman's directorial debut. This is a very charming movie, beautiful scenery throughout and about former musicians in a retirement home, recommended.


I haven't seen The Incredible Burt Wonderstone or Quartet, yet. Hoffman's directorial debut appeals to me most out of the two, but I'll eventually see both. I have seen, and liked, both The Place Beyond the Pines and Parker. The Place Beyond the Pines is very much a contemporary equivalent of a Greek tragedy, with the narrative sweep and sins of the fathers embroiled into quite an epic. There's good story-telling at large here, and I liked the cinematography. Bradley Cooper and Ryan Gosling continue to impress with their acting, and I think this was another step up for Cooper. It was also good to see Eva Mendes in something more such substantial. I can only agree with you in recommending this one, Julian.

Parker was also good, but I think it could have been better -- I expected more with Taylor Hackford directing. Plus, the story is familiar enough with regards to where it takes the Parker character. Especially if you've seen Payback or Point Blank. That aside, it's a good action caper. Statham is usually reliable and frequently interesting as an actor who knows where his talents lie. Parker plays to his strengths, and vice-versa -- especially with the action scenes, which are well choreographed. I think the narrative tries to offer more in terms of character development and story, but never really gets there because it's obvious what type of movie this is, and should be. Jennifer Lopez is another smart, interesting and talented actress, although her part here is surely beefed-up a little. She acquitted herself well, though. Although, there are definitely shades of Out of Sight here, with regards to Lopez's role, if not her character. Had someone other than Taylor Hackford been directing, John Hyams or Simon West, for example, then I probably would have gotten what I expected. And that's a good caper, with charismatic actors in the central roles, plenty of action, nice comedic touches and gorgeous scenery. All of which Parker has, even if it's a few notches below the best films of its kind. Out of Sight in particular!

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 16, 2013 5:43 pm

I saw The Great Gatsby at the cinema today, the latest big screen adaptation of F. Scott Fitzgerald's classic novel, directed by Baz Luhrmann and starring Leonardo DiCaprio as the eponymous Gatsby. Here, DiCaprio makes for, possibly, the best Jay Gatsby to date. He's everything the character should be, with dazzling good looks, charisma to spare and an understanding of this complex character. Unfortunately, the movie, itself, doesn't live up to DiCaprio, suffering from the same hollow veneer that made Jack Clayton's version aloof, and makes this almost impenetrable. Luhrmann is certainly a visionary, and his imagination runs wild on the screen, yet, despite being very true to the novel, the story-telling aspect is lost amidst the show that he creates. Particularly frustrating is the use of a brief average shot-length, which is met with editing so snappy that it's almost impossible to really appreciate what's on screen. There's some dazzling CGI, terrific set-design and lavish costumes to enjoy, if only we had the chance to really look. And that's indicative of the narrative, which moves at a rattling pace with hardly a pause, especially during the first third of the film, as Gatsby's parties are the talk of the town and a feast for the eyes. Here, DiCaprio's introduction makes for one of the film's best scenes, all the while narrated by Toby Maguire's Nick Carraway. A character omnipresent throughout the film, to the point of overuse (and annoyance) and being little more than a middleman between Gatsby and the audience. This part of the film doesn't work, and may be the crux of its problems, as Carraway narrates from a sanitorium, his/Fitzgerald's words appearing, quite literally, on the screen. And this is something that, partly, keeps Gatsby so aloof throughout the film. Even as his story is revealed, the impetus is lost in spite of the backstory and his obvious affection for Carey Mulligan's Daisy Buchanan. The cast, on the whole, are fine across the board, despite several characters being fleeting, incidental and one-dimensional. The Jay-Z produced soundtrack brings some added zest to the proceedings, and this, I could have done with more of -- especially with Luhrmann unwilling to dial it back a few notches. Along with some heavy use of symbolism - the famed green beacon of the novel being the main culprit here - Luhrmann's cinematic nods and influences are also worn on his sleeve, from Citizen Kane to Rear Window, Sunset Boulevard and Some Came Running. But those films had characters who we could understand and care about. Here, Luhrmann doesn't allow for that, although it's testament to DiCaprio that we can get a feel for who, and what, Jay Gatsby is in this movie.

Re: last movie you watched

Sun May 19, 2013 7:02 am

Star Trek: Into Darkness.

Well, while everything was going on in the overstimulating environment of the theater (I saw it in Real 3D XD), I really enjoyed it. I was surprised by what began to reveal itself, and at first, in the theater, I was excited about it. And I came out having enjoyed the film, and the experience. The experience is part film, part theme-park ride.

But the next day, and the day after that . . . I started to feel a bit differently. It is NOT a remake, but its attempt to reach out to the Trekkers starts to seem a little "cheap." As in a cheap tactic, especially when a well-known character makes a well-known scream! After a while, you almost feel it's a parody, and it shouldn't feel like that. And of course, the whole scene with the "glass" does the same thing, but with little emotional wallop. The scene that is the biggest "spoiler" (so I can't reveal it just yet) is exciting at the time, but then you feel like they've completely manipulated you - and too easily. And there are many other references to the old crew, and crews, including DS9. At first I thought this was a good thing, respectful and so forth, but now, on further reflection, it shows a lack of imagination.

"Bones" does a good "Bones." I'll say that. But that's the thing: it's like watching a whole cast of "Trek Tribute Artists." That can't be good, no matter how they try.

Someone said that Bill Shatner can't be in it, because his presence would overshadow Chris Pine. That wasn't an issue with Sir Patrick Stewart in Generations! If the actor can be overshadowed like that, well that says something about what they are doing. Stewart wasn't another incarnation of "Kirk." He was Jean-Luc Picard. He was a character with a wellspring of spirit completely separate from "Kirk." And that makes ALL the difference. At least to me.

It's a very exciting experience, well-executed except for some geographical/topographical errors regarding San Francisco (I've spoken to people who've lived there), and the average person will enjoy it. I also think the average Trekker will enjoy it. But we won't be interested in watching it again. It's not a "remake," but it's strange, and it really pales in comparison to the original to which it alludes.

But, I would say: go. You will love the wild ride!

rjm

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 20, 2013 6:30 pm

I saw Fast and the Furious 6 at the cinema today. It begins giving a nod to the previous five instalments, and ends in a way that suggests something far more interesting will be in store for Fast and the Furious 7. In between, it's the usual reckless abandon, wreckage, fast cars and a semblance of plot. Unfortunately, this is a bit of a let down after the previous film, which benefited tremendously from Vin Diesel and Co. finding a formidable opponent in Dwayne Johnson. With Johnson and Diesel's characters uniting, the sense of danger and immediacy is entirely gone. Especially with the trailer revealing almost everything this film has to offer. Which isn't a great deal, unless you're a fan of the series.

Re: last movie you watched

Wed May 22, 2013 3:04 am

Not been to the cinema in ages - not really possible for varying reasons at the moment. But have picked up some cheap Blu-rays of late of films that passed me by first time around.

One was a film from 2005 with Jason Stathan, Ryan Phillippe and Wesley Snipes called Chaos. it's a relatively routine bank heist/mystery thriller but is actually very well done and worth seeking out (I suspect it was straight to DVD over here). I confess it is the first film that I remember that I have seen Jason Statham in, and come away wondering how he has had an acting career - I saw no evidence of his acting in the film other than a husky whisper - but other than that this was a pleasant way to spend 100 minutes or so, and the twists and turns in the plot were fun.

Meanwhile, and a very different film, was Taking Woodstock. I never really fancied it, but finally picked it up for a watch. I thought it was an enchanting movie, and brilliantly played by all concerned. one of the few films where I actually sat there with a big grin on my face from start to finish. Wonderful stuff, and interesting from a Hollywood point of view. Directed by Ang Lee just a few years after Brokeback Mountain, it seemed ironic that Hollywood trumpeted Brokeback as a breakthrough movie when it comes to gay and lesbians onscreen, whereas it was actually Taking Woodstock that was the breakthrough. TW doesn't care that it's lead character is gay. He just is. The breakthrough is that there can be a gay lead character without the film having to be about being gay. One of the few Hollywood films where this happens is The Night Listener with Robin Williams. It wasn;t something I knew before I watched it, I have to say. But I certainly found it to be a lovely film in many ways.

Re: last movie you watched

Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:51 pm

I saw Byzantium at the cinema on friday. Neil Jordan's latest film, starring the very talented Gemma Arterton and Saorise Ronan, as two-hundred year-old vampire mother and daughter who are trying to survive in a coastal town. They're on the lam after the mother, Clara, played by Arterton, falls foul of her strip club employees and kills a mysterious man whom she is pursued by in a thrilling chase near the start of the film. On the coastal town, a series of flashbacks offer insight into the story of these two girls, telling how they became undead and revealing the source of Clara's fears and paranoia. Eleanor, her daughter, wants to tell their story and cannot contain her thoughts, so endeavours to write her experiences down on paper. When her sanity and safety is questioned by a college lecturer, danger and panic ensues along with their past catching up.

This is a vampire film that establishes some of its own rules and avoids many of the known tropes of the genre. Daylight isn't a problem for these creatures, whilst, in place of fangs, a talon-like thumbnail is used to pierce the wrists of willing participants or be throttled into the necks of victims and foes. A novel approach, although the film is too self-aware on occasions, but is played entirely straight and with much style and atmosphere. Arterton is terrific here, impressing once again with an assertive, sexy performance, which plays in contrast to the soft-spoken Ronan, whose Eleanor is gentle and introspective. The primary cast is small, but also includes Jonny Lee Miller, seen in flashback as syphilitic creep, whose actions are pivotal to the story. Daniel Mays, as a grief-stricken sap, whom Clara plays on for her and Eleanor's benefit. And Caleb Landry Jones, as a young waiter whom Eleanor befriends.

At times, this is an invigorating and exciting film, although it's free of genuine scares. The blood does flow thick and occasionally fast, with the emphasis on mood and the telling of an intriguing story emphasised over creating scares. Unfortunately, this is dashed by a slightly contrived and obvious climax that works, if only just. Byzantium does some new things for the vampire film, but won't be considered revolutionary or pivotal in doing so. Whilst it's unlikely to find the audience numbers of the Twilight films or more generic crowd-pleasers. But this is a worthwhile and involving film that suffers a few plot holes too many, but is largely satisfying. Especially with such fine performances by the two splendid female leads.

Re: last movie you watched

Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:18 pm

greystoke wrote:I saw Byzantium at the cinema on friday. Neil Jordan's latest film, starring the very talented Gemma Arterton and Saorise Ronan, as two-hundred year-old vampire mother and daughter who are trying to survive in a coastal town. They're on the lam after the mother, Clara, played by Arterton, falls foul of her strip club employees and kills a mysterious man whom she is pursued by in a thrilling chase near the start of the film. On the coastal town, a series of flashbacks offer insight into the story of these two girls, telling how they became undead and revealing the source of Clara's fears and paranoia. Eleanor, her daughter, wants to tell their story and cannot contain her thoughts, so endeavours to write her experiences down on paper. When her sanity and safety is questioned by a college lecturer, danger and panic ensues along with their past catching up.

This is a vampire film that establishes some of its own rules and avoids many of the known tropes of the genre. Daylight isn't a problem for these creatures, whilst, in place of fangs, a talon-like thumbnail is used to pierce the wrists of willing participants or be throttled into the necks of victims and foes. A novel approach, although the film is too self-aware on occasions, but is played entirely straight and with much style and atmosphere. Arterton is terrific here, impressing once again with an assertive, sexy performance, which plays in contrast to the soft-spoken Ronan, whose Eleanor is gentle and introspective. The primary cast is small, but also includes Jonny Lee Miller, seen in flashback as syphilitic creep, whose actions are pivotal to the story. Daniel Mays, as a grief-stricken sap, whom Clara plays on for her and Eleanor's benefit. And Caleb Landry Jones, as a young waiter whom Eleanor befriends.

At times, this is an invigorating and exciting film, although it's free of genuine scares. The blood does flow thick and occasionally fast, with the emphasis on mood and the telling of an intriguing story emphasised over creating scares. Unfortunately, this is dashed by a slightly contrived and obvious climax that works, if only just. Byzantium does some new things for the vampire film, but won't be considered revolutionary or pivotal in doing so. Whilst it's unlikely to find the audience numbers of the Twilight films or more generic crowd-pleasers. But this is a worthwhile and involving film that suffers a few plot holes too many, but is largely satisfying. Especially with such fine performances by the two splendid female leads.


Cheers for the review greystoke :smt023

Because the weather has been so good in scotland(i know hard to believe) the past 2 week i have not been to the cinema much,but i did go to see hangover 3,as a fan of the first 2 movies,i was left very dissapointed on part 3.it started off well and the story was good,but the movie was just not funny !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:46 am

Man of Steel, I'd rate 4 out of 5, a bit of an overload in action in the last half hour but by far the best Superman film Ive seen.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:22 am

Eddie wrote:Man of Steel, I'd rate 4 out of 5, a bit of an overload in action in the last half hour but by far the best Superman film Ive seen.



I went to see it last night too.it was ok for me,i enjoyed it in parts.i found it took to long to get to the point, if they cut half an hour off the movie it would have been better it dragged on for too long.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:27 am

i saw the hobbit this week on dvd
great movie
jan