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Re: last movie you watched

Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:39 pm

I saw Olympus Has Fallen at the cinema today -- which is very much of the Die Hard mould with Gerard Butler in the lead role and the events of the film centering around North Korean terrorists taking the White House under siege. Antoine Faqua directs and produced the film along with Butler, Avi Lerner and a host of others, and although Faqua can be an interesting director, this is strictly by-the-numbers stuff. We've seen enough Die Hard-inspired films (and Die Hard films) over the past 25 years to know that we've seen everything in this movie before. Still, this is more than a few points ahead of the latest Die Hard instalment, and despite being generic to a fault, poorly lit, badly edited and offering some really shoddy CGI, it's a fairly entertaining movie. And that, mostly, comes down to Butler being well cast and putting in the effort on screen with regards to his physicality, if not his acting. For which he's rarely handed the kind of one-liners and memorable moments required to make-up for the many plot deficiencies and daft mistakes, such as The White House being called The Whitehouse on some in-film news broadcasts or the North Korean border being called The North Korean boarder!!!! I wouldn't expect a second viewing to hold much, unlike the original Die Hard, which remains both a stellar and a pivotal action film. For fans of the genre, however, you'll be-able to pick apart Olympus Has Fallen on a scene-by-scene basis, but will probably enjoy some of the action if you're willing to go along for the ride.

Re: last movie you watched

Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:52 pm

greystoke wrote:Going back to some of the films mentioned on previous posts, The Paperboy was one that I found quite fascinating in places, especially with some good performances throughout. It's not a particularly good film, nor is it memorable for any reason other than the trashy aspects that are played out unashamedly by a director who, quite literally, lost the plot here. And there lies the problem with this film, in my opinion, at least -- it's one thing to have a trashy script and performances to match that IF there's nothing of substance within the story, or if that's the objective in the first place. But here, the story became wholly inconsequential when the central narrative of the film was lost in favour of individual scenes becoming more important than the bigger picture. Had the characters, themselves, been better defined and better written, this could have leant more towards being a character study in spite of narrative, but the entire film is so murky that it's nigh-on impenetrable -- even Macy Gray's voice-over made little sense in places. Zac Effron has continued to impress me, however -- I wasn't entirely keen on Charlie McCloud, but thought he was good here and splendid in the likes of 17 Again and Me and Orson Welles. Kidman was also good here, and remains an actress of some substance and range -- a good contrast with her full-on performance in The Paperboy, is her performance in Park Chan-Wook's latest film, the compelling Stoker. Here, Kidman is aloof, cool and very nauanced in one of her better roles of late and a fine English language debut for the Korean director. Whilst, I'm not sure that I've ever seen John Cusack on better form than as the death-row inmate whose story should be the narrative core of The Paperboy. He does chew the scenery a bit, but he's certainly more animated and interesting than usual.


It's nice to see Efron getting some credit. I find him a very likeable actor for the most part, and have to say I enjoyed Charlie McCloud as well, slightly slushy though it was. I only saw Me and Orson Welles relatively recently (the wonders of Poundland!) and thought he was very good in that, and thought the film as a whole was a fine work in general.

Re: last movie you watched

Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:27 pm

I saw Iron Man 3 at the cinema yesterday -- the first instalment of Marvel 's phase II. For Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.), the story continues in the emotional aftermath of The Avengers, with bouts of insomnia and panic attacks threatening his sanity and his relationship with Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper Potts. To cause further issues, a new threat to world security comes in the shape of The Mandarin -- played superbly by Sir Ben Kingsley, in what's sure to remain one of the most memorable performances in the Marvel Universe. Further problems arise when Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian and a new breed of super-soldier appear with only malevolence in mind.

This is a fine entry in the series and perhaps the most entertaining Iron Man film to date. It's not quite up to the best Marvel adaptations thus far, nor does it seek the resonance and emotional depths of the Dark Knight trilogy. But with a decent amount of plot, great action and stellar special effects, the shortcomings here pass by with relative ease because it's a fun ride buoyed tremendously by Robert Downey, Jr.'s performance in the lead, and great turns by Pierce and Kingsley. Problematic is the super-soldiers, who are ill-defined and almost generic, given that we've seen variations on this before. Whilst, a few plot-threads are merely hinted at without a better understanding afforded -- but we can easily fill in the blanks. The 3D adds nothing here, so I would recommend seeing the standard release in what's sure to please most Marvel and comic book fans.

Re: last movie you watched

Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:45 pm

Cheers for the review greystoke im going to see iron man 3 tomorrow.im a bit behind in seeing the lastest movies(i was away for a week)hopefully catch evil dead,Oblivion and Olympus Has Fallen over the next few days.identity theft was the last movie i seen at the cinema very funny in parts but not a movie i would buy !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Wed May 01, 2013 9:35 pm

Today at the cinema I saw Bernie and On the Waterfront. Bernie, being Richard Linklater's 2011 black comedy, based on the true story of an east Texas undertaker's assistant who may be too sweet to be wholesome. And On the Waterfront, Elia Kazan's 1954 masterpiece, which has been newly restored and converted to a terrific digital print. This has long been one of my favourite movies, and on the big screen, it's all the more engaging, thrilling and moving. Kazan and Brando at the height of their abilities, but also Steiger and Malden. Eva Marie Saint may never have been better than here, whilst Boris Kaufman's outstanding cinematography is beautifully matched by Leonard Bernstein's invigorating score.

Bernie, on the other hand, is a certain curio and a good picture in its own right. It's small scale, and a great vehicle for Jack Black, who gives his best performance in some time, proving ideally cast and able to reign it in when necessary. There is singing and dancing for Black in this role, but without any lingering notions that it was about to slip out of his hand in favour of indulgence. And that's also down to Linklater, who is good for Black, it seems. School of Rock was an absolute blast, of course, but this is entirely different, and for Black, a welcome change of pace. Co-starring here is Shirley MacLaine as an elderly widow with whom Black's Bernie forms an unusual relationship. Something that doesn't go unnoticed by the local townsfolk, with Bernie as loved as his widow companion is hated. MacLaine is also well cast here, although she doesn't have much dialogue, her face and expressions convey much of what's required of her. And it must have been quite special for Linklater to direct MacLaine, as he's spoken at length about how much he admires and reveres Vincente Minnelli's 1958 classic, Some Came Running, in which MacLaine co-starred with Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra, receiving an Oscar nomination as a result. No Oscars here, but this is a bit of a gem that's worth catching while on release.

Re: last movie you watched

Wed May 01, 2013 11:53 pm

American Pie 2 for some light relief.

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 02, 2013 8:28 am

WOW can't believe i missed On the Waterfront in the cinema :cry: was it one of those 1 night only deals greystoke ? seen iron man 3 this week loved it !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 02, 2013 8:44 am

I have Amazon Prime now that I've got my new BIG SMART TV, and I have a number of things on my watch list. I also saw a film in the theater. Third entry, for "last actual movie seen in a theater."

First two Amazon Prime features, last weekend:

1. "Religulous" Bill Maher.
Review: RIDICULOUSLY repetitive! He keeps either talking about his childhood in the car, or making fun of people of various religions, as if EVERY person of faith is a total idiot. I was a little offended, though I know his humor. But IT WASN'T FUNNY! It really wasn't, and had a short message, which he delivers at the end. Whomever produced and directed it, did NOT know how to make a documentary, much less a satirical one. No structure. I would not recommend it, even if you're a stone atheist. In HD, though, the picture quality was just amazing!!!

2. The next Amazon Prime "movie" was June Juanico's collection of memories and home movies of her and Elvis from '56.
Review: Loved it! Highly recommended.

Last actual movie seen in a theater:
A few weeks ago, I saw Olympus Has Fallen.
Review: If you like blood, guts, merciless murders, and LOTS of dead bodies, this is your picture.
Not my cup of, uh, tea. Ate a lotta popcorn. Surprised I didn't barf it up, with all the bloodletting!

rjm

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 02, 2013 10:26 pm

greystoke wrote:I saw Iron Man 3 at the cinema yesterday -- the first instalment of Marvel 's phase II. For Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.), the story continues in the emotional aftermath of The Avengers, with bouts of insomnia and panic attacks threatening his sanity and his relationship with Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper Potts. To cause further issues, a new threat to world security comes in the shape of The Mandarin -- played superbly by Sir Ben Kingsley, in what's sure to remain one of the most memorable performances in the Marvel Universe. Further problems arise when Guy Pearce's Aldrich Killian and a new breed of super-soldier appear with only malevolence in mind.

This is a fine entry in the series and perhaps the most entertaining Iron Man film to date. It's not quite up to the best Marvel adaptations thus far, nor does it seek the resonance and emotional depths of the Dark Knight trilogy. But with a decent amount of plot, great action and stellar special effects, the shortcomings here pass by with relative ease because it's a fun ride buoyed tremendously by Robert Downey, Jr.'s performance in the lead, and great turns by Pierce and Kingsley. Problematic is the super-soldiers, who are ill-defined and almost generic, given that we've seen variations on this before. Whilst, a few plot-threads are merely hinted at without a better understanding afforded -- but we can easily fill in the blanks. The 3D adds nothing here, so I would recommend seeing the standard release in what's sure to please most Marvel and comic book fans.


Thanks for the review Greystoke.

It's good to know that Iron man 3 is better than Iron man 2 was.

I was disappointed by Iron Man 2 and didn't know if this film would be any good.

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 03, 2013 12:13 am

On the Waterfront played over three days, I think, rocknroller. Tuesday and Wednesday, certainly -- at the Film Theatre. I can't remember if you've mentioned going there, but it's a great cinema.

I agree with you on Iron Man 2, Brian. The second outing didn't offer much other than being a lead-on to The Avengers. In Iron Man 3, they could have indicated towards the second Avengers picture, but wisely kept the focus on Tony Stark and extended his character arc from the first movie. I'm really looking forward to Thor: The Dark World.

Today at the cinema I saw Love Is All You Need, a Danish, multi-lingual romantic comedy/melodrama starring Pierce Brosnan and Trine Dyrholm. I've always rated Brosnan as an actor and have liked the few films I've seen of director Susanne Bier, such as Things We Lost in the Fire, Open Hearts and A Better World. This story, of an Italian wedding between the son of Brosnan's fruit and vegetable wholesaler to the daughter of recovering cancer patient, Dyrholm, is as much about endings as it is beginnings. Bringing with it a host of characters and situations that move between genuine laughs and real problems. Brosnan is quite superb here, bringing oodles of charm to a character with rich emotional depths and a backstory gradually revealed in gestures and expressions before expressing in words what the viewer may already expect or appreciate. To my mind, this is one of the best performances of his career, playing every scene perfectly. Especially those with Dryholm, who gives an incredibly brave performance with a very difficult role. The entire cast are terrific, as is Bier's direction and use of some truly gorgeous scenery. It's a beautifully lensed film, that may occasionally play like it's a touch familiar, but it packs an emotional wallop that makes Love Is All You Need one of this year's surprise gems.
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Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 03, 2013 12:20 am

greystoke wrote:On the Waterfront played over three days, I think, rocknroller. Tuesday and Wednesday, certainly -- at the Film Theatre. I can't remember if you've mentioned going there, but it's a great cinema.



No i never check the Film Theatre(although i am now)i have a unlimited cineworld card so i always go to cineworld.

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 03, 2013 12:58 am

It's a great cinema, definitely worth checking out if they happen to show something you like or may not see at Cineworld. The film festival was really great this year, especially the James Cagney season. Their brochure details its monthly schedule, and is free. So it's worth picking up any time you're passing, just to get an idea of what's upcoming. Or check it out on line.

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 03, 2013 10:51 am

greystoke wrote:It's a great cinema, definitely worth checking out if they happen to show something you like or may not see at Cineworld. The film festival was really great this year, especially the James Cagney season. Their brochure details its monthly schedule, and is free. So it's worth picking up any time you're passing, just to get an idea of what's upcoming. Or check it out on line.



Will do,i missed james cagney too :roll: cheers for the info mate :smt023

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 9:56 am

On my new (well, you know), I watched Midnight Cowboy in true HD! It was alarmingly great! Not just the picture and sound, of course. I think they may have restored some footage they had reserved due to its . . . uh, controversial nature? I don't know that. I know it was fantastic, and revelatory.

I took two days to watch it, and I'm glad I did, because I had a chance to think about it.

It struck me that perhaps it was Rizzo's desire that has been much overlooked, and not just his desire to be well. He's painted as a guy who puts down gay people by using a certain word a lot, but it is HIM, not Joe Buck, who has a genuine fantasy about himself and Joe that is truly sexual, and a happy fantasy. Joe's "fantasies" are generally traumatic. There is a flashback of him, as a child, in bed with an adult woman: his mother, I think. So, right there, they are telling you that he's been fudged up in some fashion, and sees nothing wrong with hustling as a career. In the other major flashback, he's caught parking with a girl, and terrible things are done while he's not dressed, and THEN, the girl cries rape on him!

Joe Buck has some nasty memories. And some big dreams. He's gonna be the Cowboy of New York City. Well, never did work out. But he learned to love, and perhaps not in a sexual way, but to love somebody, to care for somebody, unto death. It's beautiful that way. He found connection in a world of disconnection.

I want to know something: when he was with that guy at the end to get the 57 dollars (I think that was the amount), and the guy wouldn't pay, did he kill the guy? Or just really rough him up badly? Rizzo asks him, and he says he doesn't want to talk about it. Hate to think he killed the guy.

What a great picture, and it was like never seeing it before, due to the extreme picture quality! Wow!!!!!

rjm

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Last night I saw the Rob Zombie film "The Lords Of Salem"dont bother to see it ,it was dire and a waste of electricity

Re: last movie you watched

Thu May 09, 2013 10:05 pm

Iron man 3D!
Yes!

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 10, 2013 6:54 am

Iron Man 2D. Yes!

And the whole TWILIGHT saga. Hey, it was a father / daughter thing, so be kind. I did enjoy yelling "You can't act!" at the TV screen though. :)

Re: last movie you watched

Fri May 10, 2013 9:07 pm

I saw Star Trek: Into Darkness at the cinema yesterday -- J.J. Abrams second Star Trek picture, and a hugely exciting adventure that should further appeal to fans new, and old, alike. Here, with the stakes raised as Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison enters to wreak havoc at Starfleet in the form of a terrorist thought-to-be from within.

With the crew of the Enterprise having been (re)established in Abrams' first film, relationships are built upon as the passion and emotion of Kirk is at loggerheads with the logic and reasoning of Spock -- played superbly by Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. But it's Cumberbatch who continues to impress with a dark, menacing and hugely assertive turn. And amidst the action, of which there is tons, it's both his physicality and oral delivery that revertebrates. Especially when there's little time for pause, with an unrelenting pace and a knowing tone that allows for hammy nods and winks without ever resorting to camp. The special effects and set design are quite stunning throughout, with some serious lens flare into the bargain. I wasn't entirely enamoured with the 3D, however, and despite the entertainment value, a little more depth wouldn't have gone amiss. Still, it's a terrific ride and great sci-fi, with a few surprises that are unlikely to be avoided within broader discussion. So beware. Recommended.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 3:39 am

greystoke wrote:I saw Star Trek: Into Darkness at the cinema yesterday -- J.J. Abrams second Star Trek picture, and a hugely exciting adventure that should further appeal to fans new, and old, alike. Here, with the stakes raised as Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison enters to wreak havoc at Starfleet in the form of a terrorist thought-to-be from within.

With the crew of the Enterprise having been (re)established in Abrams' first film, relationships are built upon as the passion and emotion of Kirk is at loggerheads with the logic and reasoning of Spock -- played superbly by Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. But it's Cumberbatch who continues to impress with a dark, menacing and hugely assertive turn. And amidst the action, of which there is tons, it's both his physicality and oral delivery that revertebrates. Especially when there's little time for pause, with an unrelenting pace and a knowing tone that allows for hammy nods and winks without ever resorting to camp. The special effects and set design are quite stunning throughout, with some serious lens flare into the bargain. I wasn't entirely enamoured with the 3D, however, and despite the entertainment value, a little more depth wouldn't have gone amiss. Still, it's a terrific ride and great sci-fi, with a few surprises that are unlikely to be avoided within broader discussion. So beware. Recommended.


I may actually go! Several people in the Bill Shatner group on Facebook seriously liked it. I was surprised. Those folks are hard-core old school!

And your review indicates good character development. It isn't Trek without that. I hope the science is good, too. Those are necessary conditions for me.

\\//

rjm
P.S. -- Curious as to your thoughts on my recent "Midnight Cowboy" viewing experience.


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Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 3:38 pm

I should say, rjm, that my appreciation of character development and relationships being furthered in Star Trek: Into Darkness stems only from Abrams' two films. I've never been a fan of Star Trek, nor do I have a great knowledge of the Star Trek universe -- other than the bigger stuff. And the political undertones of the original series. But, from what I can appreciate in Into Darkness, out-with it being a fine sci-fi adventure in its own right (and what I'm not telling for the sake of spoilers) there's much to enjoy.

I enjoyed reading your review and thoughts on Midnight Cowboy. I've yet to see it in HD or purchase the Blu-ray, though. Still, I think you're right about Ratso's underlying sexual attraction to Joe. Which isn't something entirely concealed from viewers, despite the nature of his language, for which we should also consider the era, both in cinema and society. I do think that Joe killed Towny, however. Even if it's not entirely clear that he did, with regards to the subtext, he's killed a part of himself. That's not the case in the novel, where Joe doesn't kill him. But in the film, I believe this to be the case. Although, more important than whether Towny died, or not, is the effect of Joe's actions on himself, as a character, and how we subsequently feel about him.

Re: last movie you watched

Sat May 11, 2013 7:03 pm

Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 1:28 am

Went last night to see Star Trek: Into Darkness in 3D loved it had everything !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 11:05 am

rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Yeah, after half an hour I started to enjoy it - well, finally after all I AM a gore-hound! :D

Although it'll never come close to the original (there was no tension or atmosphere, only some jumpscares and gore).

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 12:34 pm

luckyjackson1 wrote:
rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

Yeah, after half an hour I started to enjoy it - well, finally after all I AM a gore-hound! :D

Although it'll never come close to the original (there was no tension or atmosphere, only some jumpscares and gore).



:D good for you !!!

Re: last movie you watched

Mon May 13, 2013 5:37 pm

rocknroller wrote:Went to the cinema this week to see Evil Dead first half hour was good then turned in to a "gorefest" not for me.Oblivion was ok thought it would be better found it slow.Olympus Has Fallen loved it ,die hard in the white house !!!

I nearly missed Bruce Campbell in the post credit scene,average film though