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Evil Dead

Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:11 am

From the USA Family Movie Guide:-



The new EVIL DEAD surely stands as one of the most violent, bloodiest movies ever made. About 90 percent of the new movie’s running time consists of finding brutal and bloody ways to kill a person. There’s also an abundant use of strong, obscene foul language. EVIL DEAD is clearly abhorrent.




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Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:29 am

I watched a pirate VHS copy of the Original back in 1982 (I think) and it frightened a depressed the life out of me, would never watch it again :D

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:05 am

These kinds of films are akin to gore porn, with very little redeeming value. And they serve to desensitize viewers to horrific, violent images. It's a sad state of affairs.

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:35 pm

These sort of films are a thing of the past now.

The original was a classic and can never be bettered.

Re: Evil Dead

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:37 am

These sort of films are a thing of the past now.


Then why is it topping, yes topping, the USA box office return.

Re: Evil Dead

Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:29 pm

Bodie wrote:These sort of films are a thing of the past now.

The original was a classic and can never be bettered.


Have you seen it yet bodie ?

Re: Evil Dead

Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:20 am

rocknroller wrote:
Bodie wrote:These sort of films are a thing of the past now.

The original was a classic and can never be bettered.


Have you seen it yet bodie ?


No, but i know i wont enjoy it.

I've grown out of all that blood and guts in films now, seen so much gore in films that nothing shocks me and find it boring.

I much prefer a film with a great story to it instead, this film ain't one of them.

Very likely its doing so well at the box office is that most who are seeing it, have never seen the original.

Im glad its doing well at the box office but its not for me.

Re: Evil Dead

Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:27 am

Bodie wrote:
rocknroller wrote:
Bodie wrote:These sort of films are a thing of the past now.

The original was a classic and can never be bettered.


Have you seen it yet bodie ?


No, but i know i wont enjoy it.

I've grown out of all that blood and guts in films now, seen so much gore in films that nothing shocks me and find it boring.

I much prefer a film with a great story to it instead, this film ain't one of them.

Very likely its doing so well at the box office is that most who are seeing it, have never seen the original.

Im glad its doing well at the box office but its not for me.



im open minded looking forward to seeing it at the cinema and im also a fan of the original !!!

Re: Evil Dead

Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 am

the original is a superb horror film. In most cases I don't like remakes but am looking forward with an open mind to this one.

Re: Evil Dead

Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:42 pm

Also being a fan of the original film I should see it without any high hopes, otherwise I'll get disappointed most likely.

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:28 pm

I'm not entirely surprised by how successful this remake of The Evil Dead has been -- well-marketed horror films generally find an audience, regardless of how good, or how original, the film may be. This is neither, although it's competently made and reaches a fairly satisfactory climax, it lacks the genuine scares required and loses all of the humour that punctuated the original. It also fails to address some of the original film's shortcomings and feels much less organic in the process. Not that Fede Alvarez didn't want to make a good film -- I'm sure he did, else Sam Raimi wouldn't have hired him to direct. But we're in very familiar territory here, riffing on post-torture-porn sensibilities, but losing true horror genre hallmarks in the process. Hallmarks that made the original thrilling and fun, with tons of originality into the bargain. Something a great deal of contemporary horror loses in favour of laying the nastiness on thick, but without real scares, thrills, originality and humour. The latter, of course, isn't a requisite of the genre, but it's something too often lost for fear of being camp or funny in place of scares and thrills. But when the latter is also amiss, there lies a huge problem with a film such as this one.

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:41 pm

greystoke wrote:I'm not entirely surprised by how successful this remake of The Evil Dead has been -- well-marketed horror films generally find an audience, regardless of how good, or how original, the film may be. This is neither, although it's competently made and reaches a fairly satisfactory climax, it lacks the genuine scares required and loses all of the humour that punctuated the original. It also fails to address some of the original film's shortcomings and feels much less organic in the process. Not that Fede Alvarez didn't want to make a good film -- I'm sure he did, else Sam Raimi wouldn't have hired him to direct. But we're in very familiar territory here, riffing on post-torture-porn sensibilities, but losing true horror genre hallmarks in the process. Hallmarks that made the original thrilling and fun, with tons of originality into the bargain. Something a great deal of contemporary horror loses in favour of laying the nastiness on thick, but without real scares, thrills, originality and humour. The latter, of course, isn't a requisite of the genre, but it's something too often lost for fear of being camp or funny in place of scares and thrills. But when the latter is also amiss, there lies a huge problem with a film such as this one.



Cheers for that greystoke.good to have you back mate this thread was not the same without you !!!

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:54 pm

Thanks, rocknroller -- it's appreciated.

Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:11 pm

This review sums it up quite well:


'Evil Dead' review: brain-dead characters


evil dead.jpg
Lou Taylor Pucci (left), Jessica Lucas, Shiloh Fernandez, Jane Levy and Elizabeth Blackmore are among the stars of "Evil Dead." / Kirsty Griffin, TriStar

By Mick LaSalle
Friday, April 5, 2013

Evil Dead

snoozing viewer.jpg


Horror. Starring Jane Levy, Shiloh Fernandez and Jessica Lucas. Directed by Fede Alvarez. (R. 91 minutes.)

Before descending into theological incoherence and random disgustingness, there is a half hour at the beginning of "Evil Dead" that seems to promise something more. Based on the 1981 horror film by Sam Raimi, this remake once again brings five young people into a remote house in the woods, where bad things start to happen. But this "Evil Dead" - co-written by director Fede Alvarez, a slumming Diablo Cody ("Young Adult") and Rodo Sayagues - has an extra little idea, a good one.

In this version, the young folks aren't there to have fun. They're there because Mia (Jane Levy) is a heroin addict and needs a remote place where she can go cold turkey and have nobody hear her screaming. This is a clever device because it does two convenient things for the story: It explains why they're all reluctant to leave the house - even when they should - and it explains why nobody believes Mia when she starts talking about evil entities in the woods that want to kill everybody. They think she's just having a vivid hallucination.

There are certain kinds of horror movies, and "Evil Dead" is one of them, that are at their best before anything horrible happens. The movie sets up a couple of interesting things and a few characters that we'd actually like to know without blood gushing out of their mouths.

While Mia is going through drug withdrawal, along for the ride are her brother (Shiloh Fernandez), a nurse (Jessica Lucas) and a couple of other friends. Mia is fierce and edgy, and she has a lot of resentment toward her brother, and meanwhile the nurse can't wait to put Mia in restraints, etc. That seems like the basis for a pretty good movie.

But no. It's not the basis for anything, just the movie's way of killing time before it starts killing characters. Mia, whose senses are heightened by withdrawal, keeps complaining about a nasty odor, but nobody believes her. At least they don't until they find a trap door and go down the basement to find about 30 dead cats, all strung up. On the table is a book of satanic incantations.

At this point, these five brainiacs do what any of us might do under the same circumstances. They don't leave. They don't call the police. No, they decide that it's a nice cabin with an unfortunate dead-cat problem, so they might as well hang out.

And while they're there, waiting around for demons to invade their bodies and cause them to kill each other, one of the more studious among them opens the book of spells and starts reading it. No - worse - he starts reading it out loud.

It's an amazing thing how so many people in horror movies have never seen a horror movie. Otherwise, they would not make such rookie mistakes.

The last half is pretty much nonstop gore. "Evil Dead" doesn't create horror. It doesn't generate existential terror. It doesn't get under your skin and make you fear a malevolent universe. It just threatens to show you very disgusting things and makes good on that threat: A girl saws her arm off. That's one highlight of many.

Perhaps the most unforgivable thing, though by this point the movie is beyond redemption anyway, is that "Evil Dead" violates its own rules. In the last 15 minutes, it does a complete reversal that makes no sense at all - though by this time, no one is looking for sense from this movie. They're just looking for the exit.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/movies/article/Evil-Dead-review-brain-dead-characters-4410104.php

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Re: Evil Dead

Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:21 pm

Like the rather awful Nightmare on Elm Street remake a few years back, Evil Dead is a big enough name in itself to top the box office at the cinema - if only for people who loved the original going out of curiosity...and hope. The so-called torture-porn cycle does appear to be (thankfully) fizzling out slowly, although such films will now always exist, of course, they will just be less prominent. I found it a disturbing cycle of films, not because of the gore and violence, but because people LIKED the gore and violence. Yes, there has been an element of that for decades, but there is a difference between comic-book and tongue-in-cheek gore and violence, and that which has been presented in the cycle of films since Hostel or Saw or whatever started. Luckily, films such as last year's Sinister are slowly making a comeback - genuinely spooky films that, to my mind, take the horror film into the area where it truly belongs and can give genuine thrills without being blatantly sick and sadistic.

Re: Evil Dead

Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:48 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:This review sums it up quite well:


'Evil Dead' review: brain-dead characters


evil dead.jpg
Lou Taylor Pucci (left), Jessica Lucas, Shiloh Fernandez, Jane Levy and Elizabeth Blackmore are among the stars of "Evil Dead." / Kirsty Griffin, TriStar

By Mick LaSalle
Friday, April 5, 2013

Evil Dead

snoozing viewer.jpg


Horror. Starring Jane Levy, Shiloh Fernandez and Jessica Lucas. Directed by Fede Alvarez. (R. 91 minutes.)

Before descending into theological incoherence and random disgustingness, there is a half hour at the beginning of "Evil Dead" that seems to promise something more. Based on the 1981 horror film by Sam Raimi, this remake once again brings five young people into a remote house in the woods, where bad things start to happen. But this "Evil Dead" - co-written by director Fede Alvarez, a slumming Diablo Cody ("Young Adult") and Rodo Sayagues - has an extra little idea, a good one.

In this version, the young folks aren't there to have fun. They're there because Mia (Jane Levy) is a heroin addict and needs a remote place where she can go cold turkey and have nobody hear her screaming. This is a clever device because it does two convenient things for the story: It explains why they're all reluctant to leave the house - even when they should - and it explains why nobody believes Mia when she starts talking about evil entities in the woods that want to kill everybody. They think she's just having a vivid hallucination.

There are certain kinds of horror movies, and "Evil Dead" is one of them, that are at their best before anything horrible happens. The movie sets up a couple of interesting things and a few characters that we'd actually like to know without blood gushing out of their mouths.

While Mia is going through drug withdrawal, along for the ride are her brother (Shiloh Fernandez), a nurse (Jessica Lucas) and a couple of other friends. Mia is fierce and edgy, and she has a lot of resentment toward her brother, and meanwhile the nurse can't wait to put Mia in restraints, etc. That seems like the basis for a pretty good movie.

But no. It's not the basis for anything, just the movie's way of killing time before it starts killing characters. Mia, whose senses are heightened by withdrawal, keeps complaining about a nasty odor, but nobody believes her. At least they don't until they find a trap door and go down the basement to find about 30 dead cats, all strung up. On the table is a book of satanic incantations.

At this point, these five brainiacs do what any of us might do under the same circumstances. They don't leave. They don't call the police. No, they decide that it's a nice cabin with an unfortunate dead-cat problem, so they might as well hang out.

And while they're there, waiting around for demons to invade their bodies and cause them to kill each other, one of the more studious among them opens the book of spells and starts reading it. No - worse - he starts reading it out loud.

It's an amazing thing how so many people in horror movies have never seen a horror movie. Otherwise, they would not make such rookie mistakes.

The last half is pretty much nonstop gore. "Evil Dead" doesn't create horror. It doesn't generate existential terror. It doesn't get under your skin and make you fear a malevolent universe. It just threatens to show you very disgusting things and makes good on that threat: A girl saws her arm off. That's one highlight of many.

Perhaps the most unforgivable thing, though by this point the movie is beyond redemption anyway, is that "Evil Dead" violates its own rules. In the last 15 minutes, it does a complete reversal that makes no sense at all - though by this time, no one is looking for sense from this movie. They're just looking for the exit.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/movies/article/Evil-Dead-review-brain-dead-characters-4410104.php



I'm not entirely convinced the reviewer who wrote this article has actually seen the film -- most of the usual horror genre cliches and tropes are pointed to, and that's often enough to establish a modicum of narrative to build thrills and scares upon. And, as I mentioned above, that's something this film is sorely lacking. Another issue with Evil Dead, and contrary to the article above, is that the characters bring nothing remotely interesting to the table -- they're about the most dour and sub-generic group I can recall in any horror film of the past decade, or more. And, again, contrary to the above review, it's the last ten-minutes, or so, which make for the best part of the film -- with (without plot-spoiling) one key character finding an entirely new lease of life, some Raimi-influenced camera-work and a sense of fun entering into the proceedings as the screen is, quite literally, turned crimson. But it's too little, too late -- especially with a reliance on the kind of Reganesque/Nakato-inspired antagonists who have become woefully familiar in contemporary horror.
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Re: Evil Dead

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:50 pm

In a film like this, it's easy to criticise the characters for staying, for not calling the cops, for reading aloud from the Satanic Book etc.

But if they did things differently, the film would be over before it got going !

In real life, if I found an old book, I wouldn't be concerned about reading it aloud, because I'd know I wasn't in a horror film & nothing untoward was going to happen.

These characters wouldn't be aware that they were in one, either, even if the audience was !

I quite enjoyed the original Evil Dead, but the reviews are putting me off seeing this remake.....

Re: Evil Dead

Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:05 pm

poormadpeter wrote: Luckily, films such as last year's Sinister are slowly making a comeback - genuinely spooky films that, to my mind, take the horror film into the area where it truly belongs and can give genuine thrills without being blatantly sick and sadistic.


Sinister was a really spooky,unsettling film. It completely creeped me out. Mama was also a scary film.

Re: Evil Dead

Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:37 pm

Pete Dube wrote:
poormadpeter wrote: Luckily, films such as last year's Sinister are slowly making a comeback - genuinely spooky films that, to my mind, take the horror film into the area where it truly belongs and can give genuine thrills without being blatantly sick and sadistic.


Sinister was a really spooky,unsettling film. It completely creeped me out. Mama was also a scary film.

Good lord, to me "Mama" was one of the crappiest movies I've ever seen. We went to a sneak preview and I don't know how I made it to the end. Absolutely horrible, imo.

Didn't watch "Sinister" yet.

I'm a fan of the original movie as well but last year, when I watched it for the (at least) fifth time I finally realized how stupid and irrational the characters behaved.
Well, after all it's only a movie... :wink:

Still looking forward to see the remake although my expectations sunk within the past few weeks.

Re: Evil Dead

Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:27 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:These kinds of films are akin to gore porn, with very little redeeming value. And they serve to desensitize viewers to horrific, violent images. It's a sad state of affairs.
I totally agree with you these kinds of films are one of many reasons why there are less and less girls with long beautiful hair, colourful dresses and skirts and big tits! 8)

Now I'm thinking those Elvis films in the 60s were not so bad (yeah most of them were crap but at least girls looked like girls! ) :wink:

Re: Evil Dead

Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:16 am

ColinB wrote:In a film like this, it's easy to criticise the characters for staying, for not calling the cops, for reading aloud from the Satanic Book etc.

But if they did things differently, the film would be over before it got going !

In real life, if I found an old book, I wouldn't be concerned about reading it aloud, because I'd know I wasn't in a horror film & nothing untoward was going to happen.

These characters wouldn't be aware that they were in one, either, even if the audience was !

I quite enjoyed the original Evil Dead, but the reviews are putting me off seeing this remake.....


Colin, go see it and judge for yourself. If it was "Naked News" you wouldn't think twice!! :)