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Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:21 pm

What bs, the information is on the back cover of the book? As presented on this web site under the SONY NEWS. That information can be read by anyone. If it has changed for whatever reason, there should be an explanation, and they should not just release pictures depicting what’s on or in it, and expect no flack! If they announce a change to what’s happening.

But common sense seems to elude you on certain topics, but that’s you through and trough.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm not really bothered about the whole DVD thing, the actual announcement never mentioned it. Was the leaked cover-art an official doing or did someone get it out there when they shouldn't have? Anyway - the design looks rather nifty.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:29 pm

nod3million wrote:The 61 book and the botched announcment of the dvd and no tracklisting cd seem to have delay written all over it. It doesnt seem to be ready at all. Why was it announced if it was still a work in progress, if the dvd wasnt cleared etc. Does anyone know why the dvd is not cleared to be released?


I say MGM is at fault for FTD not allowed to release the footage.
After all its screentest footage of Follow that dream, which is from MGM

Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:30 pm

E-1 wrote:What bs, the information is on the back cover of the book? As presented on this web site under the SONY NEWS. That information can be read by anyone. If it has changed for whatever reason, there should be an explanation, and they should not just release pictures depicting what’s on or in it, and expect no flack! If they announce a change to what’s happening.

But common sense seems to elude you on certain topics, but that’s you through and trough.


The release date on FECC's "Sony News" page is noted as April 2013, and if one looks very carefully at the Summer of '61 cover art, it is clearly a mock-up, not the final design. FECC is getting a "sneak peek" at the product because their hard core members understand the development process.

The page also includes the following, which most are able to read and assimilate:


The book presents original newspaper articles, new exclusive interviews from the cast, the crew, and local residents, and also details about scenes deleted from the final print. The book includes over 200 stunning unpublished photos taken from the original negatives + a CD (detail about the accompanying disc will be provided as soon as possible).
Update January 29, 2013



As may be seen, no "official DVD announcement" was made. That said, there will be some intriguing tracks on the CD.

At the end of the day, Summer of '61 will be an essential purchase for the serious Presley collector.

No bs! ;-)

Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:45 pm

No Doc your right and the worlds wrong again, you carry on with your BORG terminology. The facts are its there for all to read, mock up or not, I did not hear of any one saying it wasn't a mock up of the cover, but it was still put on there, as the thought must have been there at the start, or at least at the MOCK UP STAGE.
And to be released to people to post! So yes sloppy in that instance.

Yes the page does have that little bit of text, again forwarded from FTD/Producers, but that does not take away the FACT its there. Unlike your post you don't want seen, it’s not just deleted from view. If it’s a mistake it’s a mistake, these things happen and yes Doc they don’t always just get deleted from view.

Your final point the Summer of '61 book will be an essential purchase for the serious Presley collector. Again you are wrong, it is only essential if you want it and can afford it. If the book holds no interest for a serious Presley collector, then it’s far from essential.

But once again before you flap your wings too hard I will be getting it DVD or NO DVD, and was getting it before, I along with everyone else saw the back cover, the DVD was only ever going to be a BONUS addition and hopefully in the not to distant future we will see it.

So you can step down from that oh so high horse now.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:51 pm

garry100 wrote:
the announcement shouldn't have been made about the DVD without checking basic things such as whether they were allowed to use the footage in the first place.



I agree that all details should have been ironed out before any announcements were made. The excitement generated by the news of a DVD has now been replaced by some real disappointment. Other things that should have been confirmed are the contents of the CD...by just stating in the blub that "detail about the accompanying disc will be provided as soon as possible" Is that really good enough? and considering that behinge the scenes the DVD contents still had'nt gotten clearance. This is turning out to be a bit of a shambles to say the least.



Excitement? I will be excited when a real DVD project is announced for real and it has a website and info about it. Until then, its all a yawn. No longer care about a book or another outtake CD either, so the whole thing was about a exciting as Clambake.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:09 am

E-1 wrote:Your final point the Summer of '61 book will be an essential purchase for the serious Presley collector. Again you are wrong ...


Am I?

:lol:

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:45 am

garry100 wrote:
I agree that all details should have been ironed out before any announcements were made. The excitement generated by the news of a DVD has now been replaced by some real disappointment. Other things that should have been confirmed are the contents of the CD...by just stating in the blub that "detail about the accompanying disc will be provided as soon as possible" Is that really good enough? and considering that behinge the scenes the DVD contents still had'nt gotten clearance. This is turning out to be a bit of a shambles to say the least.

DJC wrote
Cut out the bs, please.


BS...never just my humble opinion.

As may be seen, no "official DVD announcement" was made. That said, there will be some intriguing tracks on the CD.


The cover art may well be a mock up and there will clearly be some changes afterall FTD will have to make alterations to to part which states and I quote -

CD/DVD
Unseen 35m test screen footage of Elvis filmed in Florida



And this is what David English posted on another forum on feb 5 2013

Hi

I am sorry to say, that there will now not be a dvd included with the book Summer of '61 book/cd.

Thanks
David


[img]
ftd_summerof61.jpg
[/img]

Reads to me like there was gonna be a DVD and now there isn't.

Besides that i'm looking forward to Summer of 61, if it's anything like Welcome Home Elvis or Memphis to Hollywood well...nuff...said

Garry
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Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:51 am

Summer of 61

Nice cover I'm just wondering what there gonna put over the part which says CD/DVD perphaps there just blank it out....... :D

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:46 am

garry100 wrote:The cover art may well be a mock up ...


Fact: the image is a mock-up.
Fact: there has never been any official announcement of a DVD.
Fact: the release date is listed as April 2013.

Hope this helps.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:39 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
garry100 wrote:The cover art may well be a mock up ...


Fact: the image is a mock-up.
Fact: there has never been any official announcement of a DVD.
Fact: the release date is listed as April 2013.

Hope this helps.


Mock up means that the final layout of the cover was not finalized.

But just because you say its a mock up shouldn't change the actual content of the product.

The content would already be decided upon even at the mock up stage of design.

And when I see an ad for an upcoming package, I don't automatically assume its a mock-up.

I would expect it to be the final design.

The picture and words of the mock-up, (which fans will read and assume to be true) is part of the announcement.
When one reads the words 35mm footage on a DVD, then one assumes that is the content of the package even if the
layout is not finalized.

Hope this helps in understanding how this all works. ENJOY!

Trevor is over there on facebook having a cow because some fan assumed there would be a DVD when it was posted here on this site under sony news that
a DVD would be included. So why blame the fan trevor? They only read what was posted on this site.

Bottomline is this is just another fiasco that we were shown something and now they are taking it back.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:12 pm

The cover-art should not have been leaked - that's what's gone wrong here. The transmission of information is at fault.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:16 pm

ekenee wrote:The content would already be decided upon even at the mock up stage of design.


You clearly have zero experience with the development process. Please return to the discussion when you do. ;-)

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:21 pm

You all have to remember Doc is now a big shot in the FTD circle :smt003 :smt005 and you are hurting him when you suggest such cock ups, sorry mock ups as they are now known happen. :facep: :smt006

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:05 pm

DJC wrote
if one looks very carefully at the Summer of '61 cover art, it is clearly a mock-up, not the final design



Hold on Fella's...DJC may have a point the cover art could be a mock up...or...or...it could well have been the final design, but it isn't now as I have just found some updated cover art and here it is -

BTW excellent book from the FTD team

ftd_summerof61 1.jpg


book_summer_of_61_cover_display 2.jpg


Can anyone spot the difference...

I think this CA will be close to the finished product
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Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:18 pm

All I know is that I have never seen Ernst's last name spelt that way before!

Keith Richards, Jr.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:55 pm

Front Cover for the book.

Davide
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Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:02 pm

very good but why the cock-up with the back cover?

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:10 pm

E-1, could you do me a little favor?

Please shut the f' up.

If you could do that one thing, I promise I'll never ask another thing of you.

Thanks ever so much.

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:13 pm

E-1 wrote:very good but why the cock-up with the back cover?


Hi - that was early version, as you can appreciate, contents, art work and layout are constantly being updated.

Thanks
Davide

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:17 pm

elvissessions wrote:E-1, could you do me a little favor?

Please shut the f' up.

If you could do that one thing, I promise I'll never ask another thing of you.

Thanks ever so much.

That's been a long time coming... but you forgot to include all his other login names...

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:19 pm

elvissessions wrote:E-1, could you do me a little favor?

Please shut the f' up.

If you could do that one thing, I promise I'll never ask another thing of you.

Thanks ever so much.


Thanks for your comments.

But it’s a legit question and David has kindly answered part of the question which is fairly obvious, but the question remains as to what’s happened about the DVD element of this project?

As I know of one UK dealer has had 5 cancelled orders on the book because it’s not got the DVD coming with it?
Some here said not interested but once the DVD was seen to be in it, a few changed their minds? it isn’t too hard to comprehend is it?

The more you see into this its not a FTD error but the actual printers of this publication?

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:30 pm

Can't wait to get these FTD Books/CDs !!!! 8)

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:37 pm

Andy-M posted: "Can't wait to get these FTD Books/CDs !!!!"

Me too, Andy. I will buy both new FTD books, but am especially looking forward to "Summer of '61." My appetite has been wetted by Doc's statement:

"[T]here will be some intriguing tracks on the CD.
At the end of the day, Summer of '61 will be an essential purchase for the serious Presley collector."

MT

Re: 2 new ftd books

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:52 pm

elvis-fan wrote:
elvissessions wrote:E-1, could you do me a little favor?

Please shut the f' up.

If you could do that one thing, I promise I'll never ask another thing of you.

Thanks ever so much.

That's been a long time coming... but you forgot to include all his other login names...


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