Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:37 am
The Pirate wrote:Yeah, that's what the mechanic is always telling me at the garage when I take my car in for a service. "Look," he says "I just put the brakes back in roughly the right place, your job is to make sure that all the pipes and stuff are connected properly so you don't die when you're going down the motorway."
Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:00 am
Matthew wrote:Matthew wrote:elvissessions wrote:elvissessions wrote:So, what's the percentage speed-correction estimate on Live in LA?
Seriously, I would like to know.
It's been a while. I will need to dig it out and check, unless someone else has the info to hand.
Live In LA also needs to be sped up around 5% to run at the right speed.
Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:47 pm
fg76 wrote:You're missing the point. If we were talking about cars, you'd have a point. We're talking about music, and sometimes we need to be thankful God allows us to get up in the morning and breathe at all. We should be worshiping Him, and not worshiping Elvis Presley anyways. (I'm preaching to myself too, because I'm still a fan.)
Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:58 pm
Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:23 pm
elvissessions wrote:releasing it 5% too slow is totally unforgivable. Is it not?
Umm, yeah ... it IS forgivable.
i've forgiven far worse.
If you haven't, you must be a real s---, indeed.
Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:17 pm
memfisking wrote:elvissessions wrote:releasing it 5% too slow is totally unforgivable. Is it not?
Umm, yeah ... it IS forgivable.
i've forgiven far worse.
If you haven't, you must be a real s---, indeed.
Personal insults. Coming from the guy who admitted hugging Ernst and who once said that Elvis Presley was the most important person who walked the earth. Sad indeed.
Get a life, bud.
Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:22 am
Say it ain't so!
Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:15 pm
Tony.. wrote:JimmyCool wrote:Matthew wrote:Too Much Monkey Business (2000) - mastering error on Loving Arms
Easter Special (2001) - mastering errors resulting in digital clicking and noise throughout.
New Year's Eve (2003) - mastering errors resulting in digital noise.
So High (2003) - production fault on So High (take 1). FTD replaced the disc.
Elvis Today (2005) - mastering error resulting in significant volume mismatch between master takes and outtakes.
Unchained Melody (2007) - mastering error on Where No One Stands Alone.
Live In LA (2007) - mastering error, tape has not been speed corrected and thus runs too slow.
Elvis (Fool) (2010) - production error on disc 2 resulting in repeated take of Fool. FTD replaced the disc.
Live In LA (Again! - 2011) - straight CD re-issue of the book's CD. Previous mastering error not fixed.
Stage Rehearsal (2011) - mastering glitch on Patch It Up guitar solo.
Fashion For A King (2011) - legendary for its terrible grammatical problems and ironically FTD's best selling book.
Our Memories Of Elvis (2012) - mastering error on Are You Sincere.
Welcome Home Elvis (2012) - many grammatical problems.
From Hawaii To Vegas (2012) - mastering error, tape has not been speed corrected and thus runs too slow.
From Memphis To Hollywood (2012) - grammatical problems, though less that its predecessor.
Hits Of The 70s (2012) - incorrect version of My Way in place of the correct 1977 single.
And this list ignores such releases as Southern Nights (2006), featuring terribly sloppy editing work between songs, and does not delve into the arena of questionable creative decisions on some recent titles. What this list does reveal is that there is an upsurge in problems in the last couple of years, and that furthermore FTD have gotten quieter and quieter in addressing customer complaints, adopting a sort of "lalalalalalala, can't hear you" approach. But here's anticipating a "rational" rebuttal that these releases either do not have any problems, that the problems are "trivial", or that FTD have released so many wonderful titles without problems that those with production issues can be all but ignored and forgiven. Maybe "we'll" be surprised.
I tend to sit in the camp that fans who highlight issues have a voice that helps facilitate change - such as the significant shift in audio mastering aesthetics beginning with Kevan Budd in 2004, brought on in part because the hardcore fan base had been calling out for improved audio-work for sometime.When In Rome wrote:Here's a few more errors fans...
The stereo master of 'Angel' on the 'FTD' FTD sounds a little wobbly compared to the TCM version.
The cover of the 'Wild In The Country' FTD stated Presely on the spine (they did replace that one)
'Tuscon '76' anyone... replaced quietly on the sly
The original 'Girl Happy' had the wrong take of 'You'll Be Gone' plus an all new tinny reverb on the masters. Had to buy the repress for that one!!
I know it's a fan/collectors label but as mentioned they aren't cheap, they never get reduced into a bargain bin and more importantly they do have a pretty big mother label, it would only take a test press to be looked and listened to with some keen eyes and ears!! I can't seem to remember many of the mass market Elvis releases having as many, if any, errors...
"I Found My Thrill" (2006) is also running a tad slow to these ears.
And there's the awful aural mess at the end of "I'm leaving it all up to ypu" on the "Stage rehearsal" cd where something is 'bleeding' over the top. Then there's the badly done mixing out of Elvis' humourous and non offensive ad-libs during several of the performances on that disc.
Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:16 pm
Robt wrote:Tony.. wrote:JimmyCool wrote:Matthew wrote:Too Much Monkey Business (2000) - mastering error on Loving Arms
Easter Special (2001) - mastering errors resulting in digital clicking and noise throughout.
New Year's Eve (2003) - mastering errors resulting in digital noise.
So High (2003) - production fault on So High (take 1). FTD replaced the disc.
Elvis Today (2005) - mastering error resulting in significant volume mismatch between master takes and outtakes.
Unchained Melody (2007) - mastering error on Where No One Stands Alone.
Live In LA (2007) - mastering error, tape has not been speed corrected and thus runs too slow.
Elvis (Fool) (2010) - production error on disc 2 resulting in repeated take of Fool. FTD replaced the disc.
Live In LA (Again! - 2011) - straight CD re-issue of the book's CD. Previous mastering error not fixed.
Stage Rehearsal (2011) - mastering glitch on Patch It Up guitar solo.
Fashion For A King (2011) - legendary for its terrible grammatical problems and ironically FTD's best selling book.
Our Memories Of Elvis (2012) - mastering error on Are You Sincere.
Welcome Home Elvis (2012) - many grammatical problems.
From Hawaii To Vegas (2012) - mastering error, tape has not been speed corrected and thus runs too slow.
From Memphis To Hollywood (2012) - grammatical problems, though less that its predecessor.
Hits Of The 70s (2012) - incorrect version of My Way in place of the correct 1977 single.
And this list ignores such releases as Southern Nights (2006), featuring terribly sloppy editing work between songs, and does not delve into the arena of questionable creative decisions on some recent titles. What this list does reveal is that there is an upsurge in problems in the last couple of years, and that furthermore FTD have gotten quieter and quieter in addressing customer complaints, adopting a sort of "lalalalalalala, can't hear you" approach. But here's anticipating a "rational" rebuttal that these releases either do not have any problems, that the problems are "trivial", or that FTD have released so many wonderful titles without problems that those with production issues can be all but ignored and forgiven. Maybe "we'll" be surprised.
I tend to sit in the camp that fans who highlight issues have a voice that helps facilitate change - such as the significant shift in audio mastering aesthetics beginning with Kevan Budd in 2004, brought on in part because the hardcore fan base had been calling out for improved audio-work for sometime.When In Rome wrote:Here's a few more errors fans...
The stereo master of 'Angel' on the 'FTD' FTD sounds a little wobbly compared to the TCM version.
The cover of the 'Wild In The Country' FTD stated Presely on the spine (they did replace that one)
'Tuscon '76' anyone... replaced quietly on the sly
The original 'Girl Happy' had the wrong take of 'You'll Be Gone' plus an all new tinny reverb on the masters. Had to buy the repress for that one!!
I know it's a fan/collectors label but as mentioned they aren't cheap, they never get reduced into a bargain bin and more importantly they do have a pretty big mother label, it would only take a test press to be looked and listened to with some keen eyes and ears!! I can't seem to remember many of the mass market Elvis releases having as many, if any, errors...
"I Found My Thrill" (2006) is also running a tad slow to these ears.
And there's the awful aural mess at the end of "I'm leaving it all up to ypu" on the "Stage rehearsal" cd where something is 'bleeding' over the top. Then there's the badly done mixing out of Elvis' humourous and non offensive ad-libs during several of the performances on that disc.
You guys forgot one - the FTD Elvis in Person contains 22.8.69 d/s but it was later found some tracks were actually borrowed from 21-8-69 (released in 2007 as Viva Las Vegas) in order to form a complete show. There was no mention of this inside the packaging. Ernst should have stated so.
Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:36 pm
Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:03 pm
Robt wrote:You guys forgot one - the FTD Elvis in Person contains 22.8.69 d/s but it was later found some tracks were actually borrowed from 21-8-69 (released in 2007 as Viva Las Vegas) in order to form a complete show. There was no mention of this inside the packaging. Ernst should have stated so.
Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:12 am
Matthew wrote:Robt wrote:You guys forgot one - the FTD Elvis in Person contains 22.8.69 d/s but it was later found some tracks were actually borrowed from 21-8-69 (released in 2007 as Viva Las Vegas) in order to form a complete show. There was no mention of this inside the packaging. Ernst should have stated so.
You have it backwards.
The only thing wrong with the FTD is the photo on the back of the cover, which is a minor point. FTD's In Person release is one of their finest efforts. Did you download, er, buy it?
Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:12 am
Robt wrote:THe FTD borrowed several tracks from 2007's Viva Las Vegas.
Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:17 am
Matthew wrote:Robt wrote:THe FTD borrowed several tracks from 2007's Viva Las Vegas.
No, it didn't.
Viva Las Vegas - August 21st Midnight Show - part of Blue Suede Shoes and the monologue on the tape is damaged so the CD uses part of Blue Suede Shoes and the monologue from the August 22nd Dinner Show.
In Person FTD - August 22nd Dinner Show - complete.
As I said, you have it backwards.
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