Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:43 am
egilj wrote:In a addition to the five times mentioned above:
August 1969
August 1970
February, March, May and June 1971
(Guralnick)
If Elvis mentioned marriage I don't think that's a very big deal. He did that with most of the women he had a relationship with over a certain period of time. I think partly it was manipulation and partly an characteristically intense emotionally involvement in the moment.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:46 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:egilj wrote:In a addition to the five times mentioned above:
August 1969
August 1970
February, March, May and June 1971
(Guralnick)
If Elvis mentioned marriage I don't think that's a very big deal. He did that with most of the women he had a relationship with over a certain period of time. I think partly it was manipulation and partly an characteristically intense emotionally involvement in the moment.
11 and counting!
Thanks for sharing the additional information.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:51 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:egilj wrote:In a addition to the five times mentioned above:
August 1969
August 1970
February, March, May and June 1971
(Guralnick)
If Elvis mentioned marriage I don't think that's a very big deal. He did that with most of the women he had a relationship with over a certain period of time. I think partly it was manipulation and partly an characteristically intense emotionally involvement in the moment.
11 and counting!
Thanks for sharing the additional information.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:21 am
Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:17 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:You attempt to diminish the Presley-Bova relationship, but you do so without anything other that conjecture.
My feelings, based on testimony in her book and several others, is that the relationship was significant. And we're at almost a dozen known examples of them being together, which does your offhand comment about "4 or 5" no favors a-tall. And none of your subsequent replies have added anything to the conversatio.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:46 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:You attempt to diminish the Presley-Bova relationship, but you do so without anything other that conjecture.
My feelings, based on testimony in her book and several others, is that the relationship was significant. And we're at almost a dozen known examples of them being together, which does your offhand comment about "4 or 5" no favors a-tall. And none of your subsequent replies have added anything to the conversation.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:03 am
Aunt Delta wrote: I don't think you can say the same since your posts about it are based on feelings.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:13 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Aunt Delta wrote: I don't think you can say the same since your posts about it are based on feelings.
No, they are based on facts and details anyone may plainly see.
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73238&start=0#p1097581
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73238&start=0#p1098247
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73238&start=0#p1098276
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73238&start=25#p1102732
I go the extra mile -- unlike you, that's my style.
It's clear you have an agenda, or simply a bug up your rear, regarding Joyce Bova. There's zero interest on your part in having a real conversation, and heaven knows I gave you several chances. My reward? Imperious put-downs.
Have fun!
It would be interesting to learn if this comes from Bova's own book, Don't Ask Forever, rather than a primary source.
Joyce was probably one of his most serious, post-Priscilla relationships.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:25 pm
Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:18 pm
promiseland wrote:I think Aunt Delta's back on the bottle.
Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:47 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:promiseland wrote:I think Aunt Delta's back on the bottle.
Probably so.![]()
The statement she quotes (and misunderstands) is nothing more than just letting readers know it was unclear whether Alanna Nash did a fresh interview with Bova, or simply sourced her stories from Joyce's 1994 publication.
Amazingly, I did not have both books sitting in my lap at the time to double-check, and I did not want to make undue assumptions.
So sorry, "Aunt Delta". But do carry on with your rude retorts.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:41 am
Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:52 am
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:58 am
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:17 am
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
The extent of extramarital affairs to today’s society is by no means small. A paper written by Roy C Fair of the Yale University in 1978 and published in the Cowles Foundation Paper bases its analysis on two empirical studies conducted by reputed journals Psychology Today and Redbook. The data from the two surveys reveals astonishing number of couples were cheating on their spouses even in the 1970s - 27.2 percent of the first-time married working men and 22.9 percent of the first-time married working women were having extramarital affair at the time of the surveys. In the other survey of women only, 32.2 percent of the first time-married working women had had at least one affair during their married lives. More recent studies reveal that 45-55% of married women and 50-60% of married men engage in extramarital sex at some time or another during their lives1. The most significant conclusion that extramarital affair statistics then throw up is that larger number of people are cheating on their spouses than before. This proliferation of infidelity could be due to several causes; couples today may have higher level of expectations from the marital partner and when these are not met they are more likely to seek them outside marriage. Another reason could be economic independence for women which has made it easier for them to brave the risk of an affair and its consequences. Yet again the overall relaxation of moral standards in society has made infidelity, if not acceptable, at least less of a stigma.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:19 am
Simon1 wrote:josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
By Priscilla's own account she had an affair with her dance instructor long before Joyce was in the picture.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:11 pm
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:53 pm
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:55 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Simon1 wrote:josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
By Priscilla's own account she had an affair with her dance instructor long before Joyce was in the picture.
True!
Elvis = 10,000
Priscilla = 1
Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:02 pm
Joe Car wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Simon1 wrote:josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
By Priscilla's own account she had an affair with her dance instructor long before Joyce was in the picture.
True!
Elvis = 10,000
Priscilla = 1
Dance instructor, karate instructor. I'm seeing a pattern here!
Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:52 pm
zolderopruiming1 wrote:Joe Car wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Simon1 wrote:josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
By Priscilla's own account she had an affair with her dance instructor long before Joyce was in the picture.
True!
Elvis = 10,000
Priscilla = 1
Dance instructor, karate instructor. I'm seeing a pattern here!
Co-stars, starlets, fans hanging around his homes. I see a pattern here too.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:05 pm
Joe Car wrote:zolderopruiming1 wrote:Joe Car wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Simon1 wrote:josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
By Priscilla's own account she had an affair with her dance instructor long before Joyce was in the picture.
True!
Elvis = 10,000
Priscilla = 1
Dance instructor, karate instructor. I'm seeing a pattern here!
Co-stars, starlets, fans hanging around his homes. I see a pattern here too.
Aww, that's a pattern us men can only dream about, if you're single of course!
Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:14 pm
josephinebeau wrote:Okay the pic with Elvis and the twins totally skeeves me out. It makes me want to high five Priscilla for leaving him, seriously what a dirt bag. It is stuff like this that makes me want to not defend Elvis against his detractors.
Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:24 pm
Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:04 pm
DEH wrote:If you thinl Elvis was a dirtbag than you must think most rock stars are dirtbags because most cheated at some point. And not to let Elvis off the hook but both him and Priscilla were cheating on each other. Although Elvis started cheating first.
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