Oh good! Another thread about US politics. That makes eleven now.
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:11 pm
Obama will win. Yes, the polls say they are neck and neck. BUT, the current president has to have the advantage in such situations as, when people finally get to the polls, the undecided voters will more often than not choose the option where they know what they are getting. "Better the devil you know", so to speak.
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:12 pm
R2-D2 wrote:Oh good! Another thread about US politics. That makes eleven now.
they should all be merged to one
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:17 pm
Obama.
Electoral vote total
Low end: 294
Best guess (range): 303-307
High end: 332
Absolute devastating shock: 277 -- but still enough to win.
Popular vote? Really doesn't matter, so I haven't spent much time considering it. But I have shifted to believing Obama will win the popular vote, too.
Edit: If I were doing this now (late Monday, rather than early Monday), with the latest numbers, it would break this way --> Upper limit of best-guess range climbs to 315, but my high-end estimate drops to 326. I expect I'll be ready to tweak again in the early morning, but the differences shouldn't be significant.
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Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:59 pm
So far 3 people can't obey the rules.
poormadpeter Elvisgirl R2-D2
If you don't want to play - don't post. How hard is it?
Romney is winning among independents, so this points to a majority of the dead heats tipping his way.
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:14 pm
RKSNASHVILLE wrote:So far 3 people can't obey the rules.
poormadpeter Elvisgirl R2-D2
If you don't want to play - don't post. How hard is it?
Now back on topic.
RKS
It is impossible for non-USA posters to suggest numbers, as we don;t necessarily have the numbers of how your electoral system works - any more than you have the knowledge of ours.
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:29 am
RKSNASHVILLE wrote:So far 3 people can't obey the rules.
poormadpeter Elvisgirl R2-D2
If you don't want to play - don't post. How hard is it?
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Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:31 am
Obama.
290 + electoral college
52% to 48% for the President
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:04 am
Obama: 332 EVs 50.8% Romney: 206 EVs. 47.3%
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:34 am
Sorry, poormadpeter, but why should your ignorance of Australian politics exclude me from posting a prediction about the election? At least I followed the rules.
I actually find it fascinating to study numerous political systems. The similarities and patterns taken by the left and right, liberal and conservative are intriguing. It lets you see the bigger picture. And so:
All of the people who "made a statement" by trying to support a third party by voting for either Perot in 92 or 96, or Nader in 2000, succeeded only in showing the electorate that playing games with your vote can easily elect the other guy. Third party support is now as low as it's ever been, but depending on how the GOP handles itself going forward, we may see the emergence of one.
If the Republican establishment thinks it can easily shove social conservatives to try to expand it's appeal with women and younger voters, it's easy to imagine socially conservative third party carrying the entirety of the south next election.
Re: Election Predictions
Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:20 pm
It's pretty clear to all concerned that the conservative party is becoming irrelevant in the America of 2012.
President Obama just got certified as the winner of Florida, to go along with Ohio and several other states predicted for Romney. His victory included both the Electoral College and the popular vote.
Those who espouse the right-wing party line will need to seriously re-think who they are, and what they represent, if they are to attract new voters.
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:11 pm
A political party that relies primarily on an aging population of white males and ignores the concerns of minorities and women cannot long survive.
MT
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:37 pm
MysteryTrain wrote:A political party that relies primarily on an aging population of white males and ignores the concerns of minorities and women cannot long survive.
Do you happen to know of any political party that fits the bill ?
Re: Election Predictions
Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:16 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:It's pretty clear to all concerned that the conservative party is becoming irrelevant in the America of 2012... Those who espouse the right-wing party line will need to seriously re-think who they are, and what they represent, if they are to attract new voters.
Yeah, whatever. This is what's "pretty clear to all concerned" -
Since the passing of Franklin D. Roosevelt the Presidential election results have gone in cycles and history tells us it will probably continue to do so.
1948 - Democrat 1952 - Republican 1956 - Republican 1960 - Democrat 1964 - Democrat 1968 - Republican 1972 - Republican 1976 - Democrat 1980 - Republican 1984 - Republican 1988 - Republican After George H. W. Bush was elected in '88, I remember all the chatter on the political talk shows (radio & tv) questioning what was wrong with the Democratic Party and how they've lost touch with the American people and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... and then along came Bill Clinton to win two consecutive terms. 1992 - Democrat 1996 - Democrat 2000 - Republican 2004 - Republican 2008 - Democrat 2012 - Democrat 2016 - ??Only time and personalities will tell...
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:24 am
This thread clearly reveals the alternate universe many Republicans live in. They listen to FOX NEWS and drink the cool aide they serve up -- listening to and worse yet believing the likes of Bill O'Riley, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. This is NOT American today and most certainly not the America of tomorrow.
MT
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:01 am
As I step back and survey the entire situation from just before the first debate to election day, I think the factor that tipped this incredibly close election was Hurricane Sandy.
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:37 am
MysteryTrain wrote:This thread clearly reveals the alternate universe many Republicans live in. They listen to FOX NEWS and drink the cool aide they serve up -- listening to and worse yet believing the likes of Bill O'Riley, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. This is NOT American today and most certainly not the America of tomorrow.
MT
Case in point...
Re: Election Predictions
Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:41 am
Blue River wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:It's pretty clear to all concerned that the conservative party is becoming irrelevant in the America of 2012... Those who espouse the right-wing party line will need to seriously re-think who they are, and what they represent, if they are to attract new voters.
Yeah, whatever.
Classless, to the end. Be proud.
And enjoy four more years of the great President Barack H. Obama.