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Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:30 am
TJ wrote:Ciscoking wrote:Out of curiousity..has MRS ever released anything new to collectors..I really have no clue..
The dry "That's All Right" debuted on MRS I think. Someone will correct me if that's wrong.
RonBaker2003 wrote:I believe Sam Phillips released it on Sun Records first.
Good one,
RonBaker2003.
Of course, you are correct.
The release date of the 'dry' "That's All Right" was July 19, 1954, the medium was 45 and 78 RPM vinyl.
In 1973, near-perfect counterfeits of the 45 RPM Sun 209 were issued, on different colored vinyl. See the fabulous book,
Bootleg Elvis, for more on this.
Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:49 am
Ciscoking wrote:Out of curiousity..has MRS ever released anything new to collectors..I really have no clue..
It is nearly impossible to STEAL something new, I guess.
Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 pm
I'm glad that you got it! Another collection to put with your Elvis' cds! Enjoy! Don't listen to others when they say it's bad. 'Cuz I don't. I like what I have and what I get! It makes me feel good...if it makes you feel good, then, ENJOY!!!
Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:18 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Matthew wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Although some claim the footage was intentionally degraded prior to release on DVD, I've found nothing to verify this.
Well, there is that MRS watermark across the footage, which is rather ironic!

True, it is a distraction, but the rumour is that the quality of the found Tupelo newsreel footage is better than that seen on the DVD, leaving the door open for a later "upgraded" edition. But I've found nothing credible to support the notion the producers altered the film prior to issuing it on DVD.
Yes, it could be that it will be re-released with an added 22 seconds of 'recently discovered' material!
Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:19 pm
Ciscoking wrote:Thanks..John..as always ..much appreciated info..

What about any new audio material..?
The interview with Elvis backstage at Tupelo was new and exclusive to the MRS package and, to be fair, that package was superb. The book had many photos new to all our eyes. But I don't need this 'greatest hits live' thing. For a start the cover 'art' looks dreadful in my opinion.
Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:55 pm
Tony.. wrote:Ciscoking wrote:Thanks..John..as always ..much appreciated info..

What about any new audio material..?
The interview with Elvis backstage at Tupelo was new and exclusive to the MRS package ...
This is incorrect.
All the 9-26-1956 interviews by Jack Christal (Vernon Presley, Gladys Presley, actor Nick Adams, fan Judy Hopper, Elvis) were first issued by RCA in 1984 on
Elvis: A Golden Celebration.
Just like the concert audio you hear on the DVD, the audio source was taken (likely without permission) from the wonderful 1984 RCA release (or their 1998 CD reissue of that box set).
Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:30 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Tony.. wrote:Ciscoking wrote:Thanks..John..as always ..much appreciated info..

What about any new audio material..?
The interview with Elvis backstage at Tupelo was new and exclusive to the MRS package ...
This is incorrect.
All the 9-26-1956 interviews by Jack Christal (Vernon Presley, Gladys Presley, actor Nick Adams, fan Judy Hopper, Elvis) were first issued by RCA in 1984 on
Elvis: A Golden Celebration.
Just like the concert audio you hear on the DVD, the audio source was taken (likely without permission) from the wonderful 1984 RCA release (or their 1998 CD reissue of that box set).
He probably was referring to the exclusive 1957 tupelo interview.
Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:43 pm
Yes, this 1957 interview from Tupelo (that also features Anita Wood) was first released on the MRS Tupelo release.
Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:14 pm
just received my copy and its great! to hear all these tracks grouped together on one disc is perfect. the stand out track for me is the newly discovered i forgot to remember. scotty and bills picking holds it all together while the vocals are more laid back than on most of the other tracks. thank you mrs and keep up the great work....
Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:53 pm
Here is my quick review on the MRS enhancements. First off, let me just say that I have absolutely no ear for music but I can tell the difference in quality. Second, I might repeat comments that have already been said multiple times but it is my review and some might need to be said again. Let me also add that IMO, Snap, Crackle, and Pops, are not necessarily a bad thing. Nothing beats Vinyl and the S,C,Ps are part of the reason why. I want a 1950s recording from Elvis to sound like a 1950’s recording from Elvis. Would adding color to King Creole and releasing it in Blue Ray make it better? Imo NO! I feel the same way about the audio. However on the flip side, I do want Elvis music to be represented with the best possible sound on all recordings and I honestly don’t care who does it. From FTD to Sony to Fans, I really don’t care. There is a fine line as to where to draw the line with digital enhancements. I’ll review individually for the big ones and collectively for the rest.
IFTRTF – I’m not sure how the audio was transferred from the wire and I don’t remember reading how it was done but I’ll assume a recording device was held up to it (it could have been the guys cell phone for all I know.)
PROS: Considering there is nothing to compare the MRS version to but YouTube rips, I feel this is a nice improvement considering this is all we have so far. I actually don’t mind the added bass as some do.
CONS: It still sounds like the transfer was done by someone holding up a recording device against it. I was expecting a little more. Just knowing that a cleaner version can and will be obtained, I refuse to settle. Although this is a nice improvement, knowing there is something better out there will make this forgettable once released.
Little Mama –Does this fall into the adding color to a black & white classic? I’d say no. I think there is a nice unintentional collaborated effort between FTD and MRS. From what I’ve read on this board, this song was an absolute mess prior (worse than HOS) and hearing what FTD did is just amazing and I feel that MRS just topped it off.
Hearts Of Stone - Same as above. The FTD has a little more S,C,P which I do like but also has more of a hiss which I don’t like.
You're A Heartbreaker, Maybelline, Tweedle Dee –This is where my “no ear for music” comes in. They are all both similar in my opinion. I’d stick with FTD for the more natural sound but if one was played and I was asked to pick, I’d just be guessing.
I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine - Same as above – But the reason why I singled this one out is because I could slightly hear the difference between the two on this one. MRS does have a more digital sound but it’s not horrible and it’s not constant.
The remaining album will be included in my summary.
In summary, I think it depends on what you are looking for and how you analyze it. Considering where these songs have been, I’ll assume that we should all be considered lucky to have what we have in such quality.
If you’re someone who is going to listen to this in your backyard through your outdoor speakers while raking leaves, than it’s MRS all the way. You’ll be listening from a far and this is the cleanest sound you’ll get. It’s an awesome collection of Elvis 50 live hits.
If you’re listening through headphones and feeling each song, then this might not be the first option because some of that originality is removed.
Overall MRS did a great job and I’m fortunate to have what we have in such condition. Like I said above, it’s a nice unintentional collaborated effort between FTD and MRS. It’s nice to have options considering there are 2 listening’s to choose from. These songs will probably never have perfect soundboard quality and at this point, I really don’t think care. Nah, who am I kidding.
Elvis Rocks!!!!!
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:04 pm
ElvisTheKid wrote:Like I said above, it’s a nice unintentional collaborated effort between FTD and MRS. It’s nice to have options considering there are 2 listening’s to choose from. These songs will probably never have perfect soundboard quality and at this point, I really don’t think care. Nah, who am I kidding.
Unintentional?
Nice?
No, the release you review was clearly targeted to shaft FTD, Ernst Jorgensen and his years of work and personal financial investment in the project released as
A Boy From Tupelo.
The email from the owner of MRS clearly stated the CD was part of a "f*ck Ernst Jorgenson [sic] campaign."
But you enjoy your purchase. I'm VERY happy with
A Boy From Tupelo.
Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:31 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:
But you enjoy your purchase
I'm sure he will.
drjohncarpenter wrote:
I'm VERY happy with A Boy From Tupelo.
I'm sure you are.
Why can't you just leave it at that?
Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:47 pm
I enjoy both purchases, but am just a tad partial to the official release by Ernst and company.
Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:24 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:ElvisTheKid wrote:Like I said above, it’s a nice unintentional collaborated effort between FTD and MRS. It’s nice to have options considering there are 2 listening’s to choose from. These songs will probably never have perfect soundboard quality and at this point, I really don’t think care. Nah, who am I kidding.
Unintentional?
Nice?
No, the release you review was clearly targeted to shaft FTD, Ernst Jorgensen and his years of work and personal financial investment in the project released as
A Boy From Tupelo.
The email from the owner of MRS clearly stated the CD was part of a "f*ck Ernst Jorgenson [sic] campaign."
But you enjoy your purchase. I'm VERY happy with
A Boy From Tupelo.
You are so difficult to figure out sometimes. How can you say that it was clearly targeted to shaft FTD? This release is less than 1/4 of what ABFT is about. The book is 70% of its value. If it was just a 3 disc set and Little Mama wasn't included, it would be no different from A Golden Celebration.
Greatest Hits Live was purchased for its audio enhancements and I'll bet within a couple of years, you'll own a copy of it too, if no other similar collaboration is released. (I think they should have added a second disc to include the audio from the TV performances.) If the audio enhancements weren't made and the songs were a direct rip, I might see it the other way but not everyone has a budget for ABFT and this is a NICE mini set for their enjoyment.
Let me ask you a question. Will you purchase any releases going forward with Little Mama on it if it's NOT backed by FTD?
And fill me in here because I must have missed something. What does the owner of MRS have against Ernst?
Oh one last thing I forget to mention... I also
PURCHASED AND
OWN ABFT!
The only negative thing I could say is that maybe it was released a little too early. If this was released a year and a half later, it would not have this much attention. And IMO, it was released quickly to capitalize off IFTRTF and not so much as an FU to Ernst.
Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:43 pm
ElvisTheKid wrote:You are so difficult to figure out sometimes. How can you say that it was clearly targeted to shaft FTD? This release is less than 1/4 of what ABFT is about. The book is 70% of its value. If it was just a 3 disc set and Little Mama wasn't included, it would be no different from A Golden Celebration.
Greatest Hits Live was purchased for its audio enhancements and I'll bet within a couple of years, you'll own a copy of it too, if no other similar collaboration is released. (I think they should have added a second disc to include the audio from the TV performances.) If the audio enhancements weren't made and the songs were a direct rip, I might see it the other way but not everyone has a budget for ABFT and this is a NICE mini set for their enjoyment.
As has been said numerous times on this thread, the MRS release is a direct rip from Sony issued recordings... along with the youtube rip of IFTRTF. If the audio "enhancments" that were made are your cup of tea, that's great... but let's not sugarcoat the fact that this release is nothing more than a money-grabbing rip-off... pure and simple.
Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:48 pm
elvis-fan wrote:
As has been said numerous times on this thread, the MRS release is a direct rip from Sony issued recordings... along with the youtube rip of IFTRTF. If the audio "enhancments" that were made are your cup of tea, that's great... but let's not sugarcoat the fact that this release is nothing more than a money-grabbing rip-off... pure and simple.
My thoughts exactly.
Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:31 pm
The "improvements" aren't even that huge, as I said in my quick impressions from a download (that's what's worth to me). At least that's my opinion. IFTRTF has some added bass but otherwise is what I already have here converted from the YT video. And I remember much hype around a "glitch" in Little Mama which doesn't sound any better in MRS' release.
I can't say much about the other tracks, but they may be the same as found on the Hayride MRS release from a while ago.
One has to have in mind that this release isn't about "improvements" - seriously. Its use will be found by those who don't own ABFT and/or collectors, but to boost it based on "improvements" is a no-win situation. After all, there's only so much you can do without using the original sources (acetates, tapes, etc).
Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:34 pm
elvis-fan wrote:ElvisTheKid wrote:You are so difficult to figure out sometimes. How can you say that it was clearly targeted to shaft FTD? This release is less than 1/4 of what ABFT is about. The book is 70% of its value. If it was just a 3 disc set and Little Mama wasn't included, it would be no different from A Golden Celebration.
Greatest Hits Live was purchased for its audio enhancements and I'll bet within a couple of years, you'll own a copy of it too, if no other similar collaboration is released. (I think they should have added a second disc to include the audio from the TV performances.) If the audio enhancements weren't made and the songs were a direct rip, I might see it the other way but not everyone has a budget for ABFT and this is a NICE mini set for their enjoyment.
As has been said numerous times on this thread, the MRS release is a direct rip from Sony issued recordings... along with the youtube rip of IFTRTF. If the audio "enhancments" that were made are your cup of tea, that's great... but let's not sugarcoat the fact that this release is nothing more than a money-grabbing rip-off... pure and simple.
Bingo. Any amateur audiophile can add reverb to the Sony tracks that MRS ripped from the FTD release. These MRS fan-boys love to pretend that MRS remastered all this fine music from master sources.
Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:33 am
Rob wrote:I enjoy both purchases, but am just a tad partial to the official release by Ernst and company.
I agree. I find this to be a nice compliment to the official release, all politics (morality?) aside.
It's nicely priced on Amazon ( USA) and hard to dislike. I'm not about o play
the violin for Sony ( or BMG or RCA etc. before it) although I certainly see how
it was a dagger aimed at super-fan /scholar Ernst Jorgensen. But as collector and
fan, it is a beauty of an escape, no matter its opportunistic origins.
Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:22 am
For the record I didn't buy this MRS product.
But how can it be FU to Ernst?
All along the Ernst fan-boys have been saying and insisting that
his set was basically a book project.
So, MRS comes along and rips the audio, and you get all bent outta shape?
You can't have it both ways.
Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:04 am
ekenee wrote:But how can it be FU to Ernst?
Go ask the psycho who wrote that nasty email.
Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:19 am
Ciscoking wrote:elvis-fan wrote:
As has been said numerous times on this thread, the MRS release is a direct rip from Sony issued recordings... along with the youtube rip of IFTRTF. If the audio "enhancments" that were made are your cup of tea, that's great... but let's not sugarcoat the fact that this release is nothing more than a money-grabbing rip-off... pure and simple.
My thoughts exactly.
And FWIW, as I've written before look up how much it costs to get a run of proper CDs manufactured with proper artwork, even in these times of dying formats it's PEANUTS.
People who make CDs with music that cost them little or nothing to obtain are raking in the cash, circa $15,000 for a 500-print run... they must be laughing.
Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:33 am
King Volcano wrote:And FWIW, as I've written before look up how much it costs to get a run of proper CDs manufactured with proper artwork, even in these times of dying formats it's PEANUTS.
People who make CDs with music that cost them little or nothing to obtain are raking in the cash, circa $15,000 for a 500-print run... they must be laughing.
You seem to be very informed "King Volcano." Thanks for the insight.
Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:33 am
elvisalisellers wrote:King Volcano wrote:And FWIW, as I've written before look up how much it costs to get a run of proper CDs manufactured with proper artwork, even in these times of dying formats it's PEANUTS.
People who make CDs with music that cost them little or nothing to obtain are raking in the cash, circa $15,000 for a 500-print run... they must be laughing.
You seem to be very informed "King Volcano." Thanks for the insight.

No insight, just 24 years working in the (legitimate, non-bootleg) music, broadcast & publishing industries, and a quick sum on my calculator.
Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:55 am
ekenee wrote:For the record I didn't buy this MRS product.
But how can it be FU to Ernst?
Because the producer of the set said that's precisely what it is?