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Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:19 am

I got to hear the two 1980 remakes (not exactly e-mail with MP3 annexed but oh well...).

Frankly, it may be my ears but both sound better than the actual original recordings and it's a mystery why they weren't used. They are much better than some of the released material (via 80's Guitar Man or the FTD)... And the sound is from outer space.

For those of you able to get the CD: get it, if I can judge all the material based on those two tracks. We shall see if FTD decides to release more of the 80's remakes (after all we still have unreleased tracks like Shake A Hand - I'm very curious about that one - and And I Love You So).

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:05 am

billyblues wrote:I got to hear the two 1980 remakes (not exactly e-mail with MP3 annexed but oh well...).

Frankly, it may be my ears but both sound better than the actual original recordings and it's a mystery why they weren't used. They are much better than some of the released material (via 80's Guitar Man or the FTD)... And the sound is from outer space.

For those of you able to get the CD: get it, if I can judge all the material based on those two tracks. We shall see if FTD decides to release more of the 80's remakes (after all we still have unreleased tracks like Shake A Hand - I'm very curious about that one - and And I Love You So).


and also I Really Don't Want To Know was recorded according to keith flynn's site

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:59 pm

Played the cd 1 time today and I enjoyed it.....actually the 4 1980 session track will be played over and over again :)
Not much else new but those who missed the Live ,Live,Live vol 2 release will be happy to get the best tracks from that release.

Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Venus)

Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:43 pm

Got mine aswell and played it 2 times.
The complete cd one time and For Ol' Times Sake 19x. :-)
The only thing I could think of was:
What the f@ck is this??!!
How can this be released on a bootleg?

Hail to Venus!

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:18 pm

Does anybody have a youtube link for the remake of For Ol' Times Sake ? :-)

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:37 pm

Very beautiful version of "old Times sake", I don't understand why it remaining unreleased officially until today, maybe one of the best tracks from 1982 sessions. But the version of Always on My Mind is awful, looks like the original version from 1972 mixed with the orchestral version from 1985.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:11 am

from Keith Flynns review.

Next we have the overdubbed master of “It’s A Matter Of Time” released for the first time from a tape source, where previously it was released from an acetate source. As with “Always On My Mind”, the original released master of “It’s A Matter Of Time” had these overdubs removed before release. It’s nice to hear this but I can see why the overdubs were removed before release.


Absolutely,while it's nice to hear a different version I'm glad they saw sense and removed these awful overdubs as they totally ruin what is a nice easy going simple country tune.The term "less is more" certainly applies here.
I'm giving this disc my first play and it's very enjoyable so far.

norrie

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:59 pm

dougkapp wrote:Very beautiful version of "old Times sake", I don't understand why it remaining unreleased officially until today, maybe one of the best tracks from 1982 sessions. But the version of Always on My Mind is awful, looks like the original version from 1972 mixed with the orchestral version from 1985.



"awful"......a strong word but I agree regarding the "hybrid" version....dont like it much either.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:36 pm

KingElvis wrote:
dougkapp wrote:Very beautiful version of "old Times sake", I don't understand why it remaining unreleased officially until today, maybe one of the best tracks from 1982 sessions. But the version of Always on My Mind is awful, looks like the original version from 1972 mixed with the orchestral version from 1985.



"awful"......a strong word but I agree regarding the "hybrid" version....dont like it much either.


"hybrid version" perfect definition for it !! but very "awful" version...
Is it (Always On My Mind) a fake version ?

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:43 pm

dougkapp wrote:Very beautiful version of "old Times sake", I don't understand why it remaining unreleased officially until today, maybe one of the best tracks from 1982 sessions. But the version of Always on My Mind is awful, looks like the original version from 1972 mixed with the orchestral version from 1985.


Maybe because of a tape damage? The recording suffers from distortion at certain points. Same with Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:21 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tony.. wrote:"Goldmine" magazine, august 23rd 1991 issue, page 19. Interview with EJ. I quote; "Jorgensen notes that Elvis instructed producer Felton Jarvis that "Dominic" must never be released and he (Ernst Jorgensen) feels obligation to respect that edict".

As I knew, it was not Ernst who issued that edict, but producer Felton Jarvis, at Elvis' request.

Next time take a little more effort in what you post, so that people's words and deeds are not misrepresented.



Many already knew that, easy mistake to make, but I do like your comment, perhaps you could follow your advise too? just a thought.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:43 pm

E-1 wrote:... but I do like your comment, perhaps you could follow your advise too? just a thought.

As an obsessive of my writings, you well know I always take a little more effort in what I post.

What was your previous log-in name here, before you were banned? Just curious. :D

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:26 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:What was your previous log-in name here, before you were banned? Just curious. :D


Good one,..John... :lol:

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:30 pm

They always come crawling back.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:35 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:They always come crawling back.


Absolutely..... ::rocks

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:36 pm

It's fun!

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:27 pm

Got my copy today and I love it!
Such a good listen. I always love to hear alternate mixes and versions of the masters.
Well done venus!
I quite enjoyed Always On My Mind! Although you can sew why E had it stripped down.

FOR OL TIME SAKE.....pure magic

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:02 pm

I received mine today, but not had no time to listen to it until now. I'm listening to For Ol' Times Sake, and wow. That sounding on the remake of this track is fantastic, and tbqh it sounds like an upto date song and not something from the 70's.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:52 pm

Marko wrote:
dougkapp wrote:Very beautiful version of "old Times sake", I don't understand why it remaining unreleased officially until today, maybe one of the best tracks from 1982 sessions. But the version of Always on My Mind is awful, looks like the original version from 1972 mixed with the orchestral version from 1985.


Maybe because of a tape damage? The recording suffers from distortion at certain points. Same with Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall.

Yeah, I want to believe it had been rejected because of the drop-outs. Maybe they weren't there in the first place.

Didn't listen to the entire CD yet but I LOVE the unedited versions of "Fool", especially "Burning Love" and "She Thinks I Still Care". But "Where Do I Go From Here" sounds like it's been taken from the old "Pure Diamonds, Vol. 4" Flashback-Bootleg...

Now Tony.. will probably ask me: "And what about "Fairytale"???" :D
Well, undubbed it sounds rather unpleasant, it's just the wrong key for Elvis (but hey, at least the darn fiddle is not present! :mrgreen: )

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:55 am

Oh, and the "undubbed" master of "For The Good Times" is clearly NOT from a tape source - the acetate crackles are still there and very clearly audible.

I've doctored around a little with EQ and ClickRepair and now it sounds like this:
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/84619452/file.html

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Is it possible that the channels on the overdubbed master of "Always On My Mind" are switched or is it just a different mix?

The master of "Burning Love" runs about four seconds longer than on "Second To None" but this is really cool - I love unedited versions!

Now that I've listened to the re-recording of "Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall", I think Elvis' vocal performance wasn't too bad.

I still don't like Elvis' squeeking vocal on "Hey Jude" but it's fun to clearly hear the MF on the ending (that shows how serious he was about that song)... :D

Just a few thoughts...

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:43 am

Some nicey photos from the new release. I did not post the pics directly due to the large size of the pics. Enjoy.


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/1.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/2.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/3.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/4.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/5.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/6.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/7.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/8.jpg


http://www.fileupyours.com/files/323994/9.jpg

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:36 am

luckyjackson1 wrote:Oh, and the "undubbed" master of "For The Good Times" is clearly NOT from a tape source - the acetate crackles are still there and very clearly audible.

I've doctored around a little with EQ and ClickRepair and now it sounds like this:
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/84619452/file.html

And here's Take 1 of "Fool" with a sort of "fixed" but faded ending (not too well done, just in a hurry):
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/36569163/file.html

Is it possible that the channels on the overdubbed master of "Always On My Mind" are switched or is it just a different mix?

The master of "Burning Love" runs about four seconds longer than on "Second To None" but this is really cool - I love unedited versions!

Now that I've listened to the re-recording of "Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall", I think Elvis' vocal performance wasn't too bad.

I still don't like Elvis' squeeking vocal on "Hey Jude" but it's fun to clearly hear the MF on the ending (that shows how serious he was about that song)... :D

Just a few thoughts...

Any chance of uploading For Ol' Times Sake, lj1?

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:37 am

Borrowed this one from you, TCB-FAN:

Venus CDs_sleeve promo.JPG

One has to admit, when Venus touts sound quality, they generally aren't bullshitting.

And save one release covering June 1968 and one from January-February 1969, it's a '70s-lover's gold mine.
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Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:59 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:Borrowed this one from you, TCB-FAN:

Venus CDs_sleeve promo.JPG

One has to admit, when Venus touts sound quality, they generally aren't bullshitting.

And save one release covering June 1968 and one from January-February 1969, it's a '70s-lover's gold mine.

I have all these Doc and you are right about not bullshitting when it comes to sound quality. Owning these are like owning the tapes themselves .
I think I know the source for Venus' material but not opt to say.

Re: Unedited Masters - Hollywood To Nashville 1972-1980 (Ve

Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:21 am

I suspect the source/s are less known than known.