Chat talk and light discussion

Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:25 am

How The Web Was Woven was a single.

I actually discovered this track when I was about 10 years old and stuck in a holiday camp. I kept playing it over and over on the jukebox in the arcade, so if it wasn't for this being the B-side of I Just Can't Help Believin' I might have been a few more years older before hearing it.

You folks in the US missed that one I think as RCA deemed in their wisdom that only people in the Uk would like to buy it.

Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:23 pm

for ol times sake was a single, with raised on rock as the 'a' side.

Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:41 am

Only The Strong Survive

I am not sure but I think at one point is was thought of as a single but pulled because somebody else released it around the same time. !!!

Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:53 am

sgt bilko

"Only the Strong Survive" was co-written and recorded by Jerry Butler. Released in February 1969 it reached #1 R&B and #4 Pop. Elvis certainly heard Jerry's version before he decided to record it himself that same month.

Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:10 pm

elvisjnr wrote:for ol times sake was a single, with raised on rock as the 'a' side.


Not true. For Ol Times Sake was not a single. A single is the song off of an album that is released to radio that either makes it's way up and/or down the charts. Raised on Rock was the single. Just because a song was on a 45 record does not make it a single. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance to you, young man.

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Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:11 pm

Delboy -

I think they really missed a trick with Memphis Tennessee !

OK, Johnny Rivers pinched the hit by getting his version out first in the US.

But what about the rest of the world ?

The Rivers record didn't do squat in the UK [doubt it was even released].

So the way was clear for Elvis to have a real 'return to the roots' rocking hit, just at the point in his flagging [record] career when it was most needed !

We got Kissin' Cousins instead.

Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:52 pm

I think Stranger In The Crowd would have made a great single.

Jules

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Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:38 am

In defense of ElvisJr, what side of the 45 rpm record is
actually the "plug" side (the hit side) has historically been open
to debate.

For example, "Promised Land" was, I believe, the flip to
IT"S MIDNIGHT" but I'm not sure if that's was a wise choice
and today we think of it as a very strong single choice.

On occasion the "flip side" has emerged as the hit
after DJ's preferred this "B" side to the "A" side.

Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:43 am

In defense of Rob, that was not the case with Raised On Rock which again, was the single that was shipped to radio stations to be played on the air in late 1973.

Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:31 pm

ElvisJr. is a like fifteen years old. Welcome, Elvis Jr.!

I"m glad he even knows roughly what a "single" is! :lol:

Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:26 pm

Rob wrote:In defense of Rob, that was not the case with Raised On Rock which again, was the single that was shipped to radio stations to be played on the air in late 1973.


I always thought a single had 2 sides!!! :?



:P

Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:29 pm

A 45 has two sides.

A single has "one" side even though there is a song on each side.

You see, you only count the side that..........




Never mind. I quit.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:22 am

In my youth I'd go to the shop and by a single not a 45. I thought 45 was the speed it played at. :wink:



:oops:

Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:28 am

Sam -

You wrote:
In my youth I'd go to the shop and by a single not a 45. I thought 45 was the speed it played at.


You're right, of course, we all did.

Rob's strange argument has run out of steam, and he's admitted as much.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:00 pm

thanks Gregory Nolan. jnr. bit late for a welcome, been here for 10 months lol :lol:

Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:13 pm

sam wrote:
Rob wrote:In defense of Rob, that was not the case with Raised On Rock which again, was the single that was shipped to radio stations to be played on the air in late 1973.


I always thought a single had 2 sides!!! :?



:P


No Sam, you're thinking of a 45rpm Couple.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:41 pm

10 months t'ain't nothin' 'Junior....I was half-kidding.

And Sam, in the U.S. a "45" was often used interchangeably
with a "single," meaning a single
(double-sided) record. (Of course, we knew it stood for 45 rpm.)

When someone bought the single,
they always were buying it for the "single" (meaning
the hit side) but it was understood they were getting two songs.
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Part of the fun was to eventually flip that thing over and find out
what song was chosen. Many times I found it to be a turkey
(I'm not talking about Elvis) but sometimes it could be very
interesting.

Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:12 am

Old Macdonald would have been a terrific single :shock:

Actually I thought about Just Pretend.....

Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:17 am

Some here people here cringe about things like "The Last Farewell"
and other tracks on EP BOULEVARD, but really, the only uncontestedly
bad Elvis are songs like "Confidence, " " OLD McDonald," and
"Yoga Is As Yoga Does" and a few other celluloid turkeys.

And even they have defenders! :shock:

Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:53 am

"Raised on Rock"/"For Ol' Times Sake" was listed a single listing on the chart further confusing the issue. Perhaps split airplay damaged its chart position and sales prospects. Of course, they change how they compile the charts it seems like every day so maybe the airplay was combined for one chart position. Neither song is very commercial though. "ROR" is a stiff. 'For Ol' Times Sake" is beautiful but also too plain spoken and downbeat to meet with massive popular success.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:47 am

The greatest single that never was would have been 'Fire' written by Bruce Springsteen, specifically for Elvis. He never got the chance to get it to The King.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:18 pm

Torben wrote:sgt bilko

"Only the Strong Survive" was co-written and recorded by Jerry Butler. Released in February 1969 it reached #1 R&B and #4 Pop. Elvis certainly heard Jerry's version before he decided to record it himself that same month.


It got to number 4 on 1 March 1969 and didn't hit number 1 on the R&B charts until April. Can we be sure that Elvis heard his version first? I guess the arrangements are close enough that it's very likely.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:24 pm

renanagulled wrote:Old Macdonald would have been a terrific single.


Quit it.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:32 pm

TJ

Well, I'm not sure, but I can't imagine it not happening that way.

renanagulled

"Old McDonald" would have been great as a single to tie in with the Elvis Sings for Children and Grownups Too album. Another missed opportunity by RCA.