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Memphis Airport
This is from the Luxemburg Fan Club Facebook page. Says photo was taken December 22, 1961 at Los Angeles Airport.
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UniqueDog12 wrote:This is from the Luxemburg Fan Club Facebook page. Says photo was taken December 22, 1961 at Los Angeles Airport.
You may wish to update your topic title. FB page information can be unreliable.
That airport is much too small to be LAX. It's been a curiosity ever since I first saw it, either here on FECC or in one of the "Elvis Files" books. Well, bah humbug, today I cracked the mystery of this photo with a little sleuthing.
Leaving Memphis Municipal Airport - Friday, October 21, 1961
Yes, we see Elvis getting on a plane at the Memphis Municipal Airport:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_International_Airport#History
Both the control tower and the Esso Aviation hanger seen behind him are a match with these images below.
Flying magazine - October 1950
Memphis Airport - old control tower circa 1973
Photo thanks to davide
This most likely means Elvis left not from Los Angeles but Memphis for his holiday "escape" from Dee, Vernon and his three step-brothers, who were staying at Graceland. They would find their own home shortly before the end of the month.
Anyway, this is new information, and although a small piece of the puzzle, it is interesting. Maybe he hadn't planned to split town, but something happened at home after being released from "Kid Galahad" that made him leave.
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A Memphis newspaper report I uncovered confirms the date of the photo was Friday, October 21, 1961. The singer was heading to California to film "Kid Galahad." See page 3.
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Re: L.A. 1961
I just updated my earlier post with some fresh, new and much more accurate information. Enjoy!
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My pleasure. That photo had been bugging me for years. I knew it wasn't Los Angeles, but it didn't look like Las Vegas, either. A whole lotta sleuthing later, bingo! I found that Esso ad, and everything fell into place.UniqueDog12 wrote:Thank you so much for the correct information!
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Thank you so much Docdrjohncarpenter wrote:I just updated my earlier post with some fresh, new and much more accurate information. Enjoy!
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Right back at you! Thank you for the Christmas wishes.california boy wrote:Thank you so much Docdrjohncarpenter wrote:I just updated my earlier post with some fresh, new and much more accurate information. Enjoy!
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Re: L.A. 1961
Where did the date of December 22, 1961 come from? Elvis left Memphis airport for L.A. to commence the filming of 'Kid Galahad' on October 21, 1961 - is this not a more likely date?drjohncarpenter wrote:UniqueDog12 wrote:This is from the Luxemburg Fan Club Facebook page. Says photo was taken December 22, 1961 at Los Angeles Airport.
You may wish to update your topic title. FB page information can be unreliable. That airport is much too small to be LAX. It's been a curiosity ever since I first saw it, either here on FECC or one of the "Elvis Files" books. Well, bah humbug, today I cracked the mystery of this photo with a little sleuthing.
Leaving Memphis Municipal Airport - Friday, December 22, 1961
Yes, we see Elvis getting on a plane at the Memphis Municipal Airport:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_International_Airport#History
Both the control tower and the Esso Aviation hanger seen behind Elvis are a match with these images I dug up.
Flying magazine - October 1950
Memphis International Airport - control tower
Now, this most likely means Elvis left not from Los Angeles but Memphis for his holiday "escape" from Dee, Vernon and his half-brothers, who were staying at Graceland. They would find their own home shortly before the end of the month.
Anyway, this is new information, and although a small piece of the puzzle, it is interesting. Maybe he hadn't planned to split town, but something happened at home after being released from "Kid Galahad" that made him leave.
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davide wrote:Where did the date of December 22, 1961 come from? Elvis left Memphis airport for L.A. to commence the filming of 'Kid Galahad' on October 21, 1961 - is this not a more likely date?
Glad you have enjoyed this topic. The date appears in this book:
Peter Guralnick and Ernst Jørgensen Elvis Day By Day (New York: Random House, January 8, 1999)
An October date might be likely if Elvis' hair did not appear to be pitch black in our photo.
In "Kid Galahad" it was still pretty close to his natural lighter color:
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Yes I have the Day to Day book, It's always tricky to tell from a Black and white photo regarding hair colour - Peter Guralnick's book 'Careless Love' has no mention of Elvis returning to Memphis after 'Kid Galahad,' and before Vegas, I'm not saying it isn't the December date, and it's cool to get the location correct, but for me it's more likely taken on the departure on October 21. Gary Pepper writes that "he left on a jet plane at 4 p.m. Alan Fortas wrote that it was the one time, that Elvis did not go back to Memphis for Christmas. If we take it, that the publicity photos for 'Kid Galahad' were taken in Hollywood at the end of filming (late December) then the photo of him at the airport for me does not look to be in the same timeframe, he looks super slim and trim in the publicity photos? thoughts..drjohncarpenter wrote:Glad you have enjoyed this topic. The date appears in this book, it's worth owning:davide wrote:Where did the date of December 22, 1961 come from? Elvis left Memphis airport for L.A. to commence the filming of 'Kid Galahad' on October 21, 1961 - is this not a more likely date?
Peter Guralnick and Ernst Jørgensen Elvis Day By Day (New York: Random House, January 8, 1999)
The October date might be likely if Elvis' hair did not appear to be pitch black. In "Kid Galahad" his hair was left natural.
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This picture was posted on tumblr last week. Apparently from the same flight.
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The band he's put together is so over-the-top, and only Elvis would have that kinda spending power, and just audacious craziness. Choirs, and orchestras, and a great rhythm section, maybe another gospel group on the side. None of it makes sense until you suddenly hear something like that, and they're all playing a role in that, and it's very moving music. That's the pure joy of music in the man. You know, that's when I see everything stop.
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How interesting, it's new to my eyes and almost certainly a companion to the photo being discussed. Elvis' suit, tie and pins, handkerchief and hair are all a match. And look at "Diamond" Joe Esposito next to him, I've never seen such a quiff on Colonel Parker's inside man.Gunter wrote:This picture was posted on tumblr last week. Apparently from the same flight.
Elvis' hair looks to be freshly trimmed, and still jet-black. If the date is indeed December in Memphis, a possible scenario is he returned home to get a fresh dye job and haircut before heading to Las Vegas for the next three-to-four weeks.
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Agreed- a match to the photo from Memphis airport, amazing to see new photos appear, and new to me also! Again looking through 'Careless Love,' It mentions Joe Esposito, who started to date Joanie Roberts a twenty year old dancer from the Sands in Vegas, and states Elvis 'flew in Bonnie Bunkley from Memphis.' No mention of Elvis returning to Memphis after the completion of 'Kid Galahad.'
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Re: Memphis Airport
The Memphis Airport tower you show was built in 2010 - or I have misunderstood your research? the photo attached is the match.
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Nice work, John. That haircut was too short for him. Makes his face seem somewhat swollen.
What gives with that Priscilla photo? Is it real?
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Elvis Day by Day is a must have. In my opinion it's better than Careless Love. Maybe because Peter worked with Ernst.
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You misunderstood.davide wrote:The Memphis Airport tower you show was built in 2010 - or I have misunderstood your research? the photo attached is the match.
What Priscilla photo?elvisjock wrote:Nice work, John. That haircut was too short for him. Makes his face seem somewhat swollen.
What gives with that Priscilla photo? Is it real?
Apples and oranges. But I do wish an update could be done on Elvis Day By Day. Many years back I sent Ernst a detailed review of the corrections needed to make it far more accurate. But the book apparently did not sell enough to merit a softcover reprint, unfortunately.jurasic1968 wrote:Elvis Day by Day is a must have. In my opinion it's better than Careless Love. Maybe because Peter worked with Ernst.
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This one I believe:drjohncarpenter wrote: What Priscilla photo?
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drjohncarpenter wrote:Right back at you! Thank you for the Christmas wishes.california boy wrote:Thank you so much Docdrjohncarpenter wrote:I just updated my earlier post with some fresh, new and much more accurate information. Enjoy!
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"SAD RAIN " - from my 1st album, here on the following link :
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You misunderstood.drjohncarpenter wrote:davide wrote:The Memphis Airport tower you show was built in 2010 - or I have misunderstood your research? the photo attached is the match.
Really…?
Anyhow - Looking back at all the information that is available, including Day by Day, Frame By Frame by Bill Bram, and a detailed account by Marty Lacker from the book 'Elvis and the Memphis mafia' by Alanna Nash, where on page 236 he recalls Elvis did not return to Memphis after the completion of 'Kid Galahad,' but stayed in Las Vegas. The group did attempt on three occasions, to reach Memphis by road, but were stopped by the weather. This would indicate that the date placed of December 22, 1961 can not be correct.
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The dyed black hair seen in both photos indicates that we do not have all the information we need to make a final call on the day and month. But thanks to my sleuthing, the location is confirmed.davide wrote:You misunderstood.drjohncarpenter wrote:davide wrote:The Memphis Airport tower you show was built in 2010 - or I have misunderstood your research? the photo attached is the match.
Really…?
Anyhow - Looking back at all the information that is available, including Day by Day, Frame By Frame by Bill Bram, and a detailed account by Marty Lacker from the book 'Elvis and the Memphis mafia' by Alanna Nash, where on page 236 he recalls Elvis did not return to Memphis after the completion of 'Kid Galahad,' but stayed in Las Vegas. The group did attempt on three occasions, to reach Memphis by road, but were stopped by the weather. This would indicate that the date placed of December 22, 1961 can not be correct.
Davide
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I'm still not sure what relevance the modern control tower has to this topic…. Yes Sherlock, Elvis' hair colour is always going to be problematic …..but glad you agree regarding the timeframe, so you may wish to update your caption for the two photos, which should now read :drjohncarpenter wrote:The dyed black hair seen in both photos indicates that we do not have all the information we need to make a final call on the day and month. But thanks to my sleuthing, the location is confirmed.davide wrote:You misunderstood.drjohncarpenter wrote:davide wrote:The Memphis Airport tower you show was built in 2010 - or I have misunderstood your research? the photo attached is the match.
Really…?
Anyhow - Looking back at all the information that is available, including Day by Day, Frame By Frame by Bill Bram, and a detailed account by Marty Lacker from the book 'Elvis and the Memphis mafia' by Alanna Nash, where on page 236 he recalls Elvis did not return to Memphis after the completion of 'Kid Galahad,' but stayed in Las Vegas. The group did attempt on three occasions, to reach Memphis by road, but were stopped by the weather. This would indicate that the date placed of December 22, 1961 can not be correct.
Davide
Leaving Memphis Municipal Airport, date unknown.
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