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Re: Kansas City, 1977

Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 am

Robert wrote:... you clearly got signs this part of Elvis' act was not appropriate.


Yup. And so did Elvis. Check out the 1977 CBS tapes of the 6-19 and 6-21 performances of the song.

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:39 am

ekenee wrote:He was not making fun of gays.

He was paradoying the song itself.

He always found a way to joke his way thru the song from 1961 to 1968 to 1970 to 1977.

Context.

No one complained then.

But different people do have different sensibilities and so, perhaps it was best to axe the act in 1977 based

on the fact that some people could misunderstand the humor.

But the real reason for not including the act is probably the way it looks to the public that an actual person is holding a mic up to his face,
when a metal mic stand would have sufficed. People would've noticed that more than anything else.



Nice to see some sanity in this debate.

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:35 am

I guess Elvis' audience (white, christian housewifes in their late 30s and early 40s) thought it was funny.

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:18 pm

ekenee wrote:
But the real reason for not including the act is probably the way it looks to the public that an actual person is holding a mic up to his face,
when a metal mic stand would have sufficed. People would've noticed that more than anything else.


Bingo!

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:04 am

rickeap wrote:Nice to see some sanity in this debate.


Nice to see your passive-aggressive posting style remains unchanged. ;-)

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:49 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
rickeap wrote:Nice to see some sanity in this debate.


Nice to see your passive-aggressive posting style remains unchanged. ;-)



And nor has your style.

I was simply agreeing with the the logical comments made by Ekenee.
I agree that Charlie holding the microphone was the main problem, not some light-hearted humour injected into the routine.
I don't think we need to over-react to it in another era.

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:28 am

It appears the video posted here has been edited. That song isn't there. YouTube videos can be edited on the site.

So I have only heard rumors of what they did. I would like to know. Perhaps someone could find a complete clip of that song. It's not there.

All I see is Charlie holding the mike. Which is weird, but not what I heard. (Update: saw it. It was just stupid. Charlie did some dumb things and Elvis laughed. )

rjm

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Re: Kansas City, 1977

Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:12 pm

Robert wrote:
ekenee wrote:
But the real reason for not including the act is probably the way it looks to the public that an actual person is holding a mic up to his face,
when a metal mic stand would have sufficed. People would've noticed that more than anything else.


Bingo!


AND BINGO!!! Forget the gay act, Why did Elvis need Charlie to hold the mic for him? It looks sycophantic and just plain weird. Same with Unchained Melody.

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:55 pm

Jokerlola wrote:
Robert wrote:
ekenee wrote:
But the real reason for not including the act is probably the way it looks to the public that an actual person is holding a mic up to his face,
when a metal mic stand would have sufficed. People would've noticed that more than anything else.


Bingo!


AND BINGO!!! Forget the gay act, Why did Elvis need Charlie to hold the mic for him? It looks sycophantic and just plain weird. Same with Unchained Melody.




It's sycophantic, weird and JUST PLAIN UNPROFESSIONAL!!!!

Re: Kansas City, 1977

Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:53 am

A. C. van Kuijk wrote:I guess Elvis' audience (white, christian housewifes in their late 30s and early 40s) thought it was funny.


I'd love to hear the sound of Eddie Murphy's laugh at that one!!!

One should avoid overgeneralizing.

On the other hand, Elvis-fan Eddie also did some genuinely homophobic humor, but he stopped.

With regards to the obvious symbolism of pointing that mic the way he did, it is sometimes difficult to distinguish homophobic from just-sexual humor. (Remember in the TTWII rehearsals where Elvis gulps the microphone? And laughs like crazy? He was pretty worldly.)

And the movie mags in the 60s used to question HIS sexuality. And he WAS a southern "Dandy." They are NOT gay, btw. But high school must have been . . . something for him. ) I would need to see the song in question, though.

rjm (found it; Charlie preens and acts "feminine" -- Elvis finds this funny. It's just a stupid thing. But there was a time when Elvis sarcastically kissed him for some creepy movie mag reporters, according to Sandi Miller.)


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