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Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:38 pm

anyone has more info on this picture from 1973?
i see the Imperials in this picture, and Mama Cash from the mama's and the papa's.......gattering around the piano singing perhaps some gospel songs...

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is it possible that this could be backstage (or after party) from Aloha from hawaii?
why this thought?...........the clothing that elvis is wearing on the above picture, that is the same clothing at some backstage pictures from Aloha....see here.......
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marcel

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:02 am

I thought I remebered just seiing this picture somewhere recently, maybe here. That's Mama cass isn't it? Vegas 69?

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:11 am

rare picture Marcel!

hisby wrote:anyone has more info on this picture from 1973? i see the Imperials in this picture, and Mama Cash from the mama's and the papa's.......gattering around the piano singing perhaps some gospel songs...

Imagemarcel


After Elvis closed Hilton Febr 23rd 1973, Elvis and Linda stayed a couple more days in Vegas to attend some shows (incl Ann Margret's). Meanwhile - new RCA artist Cass Elliot (Mama Cass) opened at Flamingo Hilton LV Febr at 22nd (till 3rd week of March). Therefore it could well be that this is a picture of Elvis and Cass Elliot after her Flamingo concert (and perhaps it could be that Elvis is talking to Marty Allen):

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(note : Elvis wore similar outfit when meeting Muhammad Ali - Febr '73)
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:04 am

thanks for the info e-cat.........considering the info you just gave it isn't possible that this picture is from Aloha backstage .....thanks again for straighten this out.

marcel

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:01 am

This must be on of the last photos of Elvis where he´s looking real slim.

//Björn

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:47 pm

Pics from July and August 74 have him slim. Look under my post at the College Park thread to download a few of them.

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Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:44 am

Mike Eder wrote:Pics from July and August 74 have him slim. Look under my post at the College Park thread to download a few of them.

Actually, he's not slim in the waist, but he looks OK otherwise.

The photos with Cass and Mocheo are likely from Elvis' Las Vegas Hilton suite in February 1973.

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Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:23 am

Sessions III has the Cass photo dated as Doc said.

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:45 pm

Kris P wrote: Right on the money, again, E-Cat..........also, that is Marty Allen his wife is standing next to Linda.

Thanks for the confirmation Kris !

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:55 pm

Imperials singer Terry Blackwood is also present

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:13 pm

Cass Elliot began a run with Allen at the Flamingo on Thursday, Feb 22, 1973. She was apparently at Presley's closing show the next evening.

It's quite possible Elvis invited them all back to his suite.


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Gospel Jam, Elvis' Hilton suite, Las Vegas, NV - Friday, February 23, 1973

L-R: Terry Blackwood, Sherman Andrus, Jim Murray, Cass Elliot, Joe Moscheo, Armond Morales, Marty Allen, Elvis, Linda Thompson, Red West, Lorraine Allen


This 1973 candid is interesting on many levels.

It's the last time Elvis was slim and trim, although he was undergoing some major personal problems, sadly detailed four years later in Elvis - What Happened? (1977). Not many photos of Elvis' private, in-suite jams have ever surfaced.

The assembled are obviously singing gospel, and it appears all of the current members of the Imperials are there. Since the quintet had left Elvis' employ after the summer 1971 season in Las Vegas (September 6, 1971, to be exact), they had to have been in town with another singer -- perhaps Jimmy Dean had a booking in the area at that time.

Note that the African-American man in the picture is Sherman Andrus, who replaced Imperial Greg Gordon in early 1972 -- a VERY controversial move in the conservative-minded gospel field.

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:40 pm

According to Mocheo's book Mama Cass sang "Amazing Grace" that night, backed by The Imperials.

Eivind

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:16 am

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Priscilla, in the 8th month of her pregnancy, watches Elvis play piano, while Joe Esposito escorts a gate-crashing Jimmy Ellis & his wife from the room....................

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:41 am

Eivind wrote:According to Mocheo's book Mama Cass sang "Amazing Grace" that night, backed by The Imperials.

.. it makes sense : Sherman provided the following picture and wrote they did a gospel (never realised before it was Cass Elliot in the picture though.):

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:32 pm

Priscilla, in the 8th month of her pregnancy, watches Elvis play piano, while Joe Esposito escorts a gate-crashing Jimmy Ellis & his wife from the room....................

Are you sure about that Colin?
I always thought it was Mickey Alba playing the piano,
but then, I could be wrong..

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:52 pm

Elton wrote:Priscilla, in the 8th month of her pregnancy, watches Elvis play piano, while Joe Esposito escorts a gate-crashing Jimmy Ellis & his wife from the room....................

Are you sure about that Colin?
I always thought it was Mickey Alba playing the piano,
but then, I could be wrong..


Well, I never wrote that, the caption came with the photo................

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Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:16 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:This 1973 candid is interesting on many levels.

It's the last time Elvis was slim and trim, although he was undergoing some major personal problems, sadly detailed four years later in Elvis - What Happened? (1977). Not many photos of Elvis' private, in-suite jams have ever surfaced.

The assembled are obviously singing gospel, and it appears all of the current members of the Imperials are there. Since the quintet had left Elvis' employ after the summer 1971 season in Las Vegas (September 6, 1971, to be exact), they had to have been in town with another singer -- perhaps Jimmy Dean had a booking in the area at that time.

Note that the African-American man in the picture is Sherman Andrus, who replaced Imperial Greg Gordon in early 1972 -- a VERY controversial move in the conservative-minded gospel field.

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Elliot began a run with Allen at the Flamingo a week after Elvis closed at the Hilton. After seeing them, he invited them all back to his suite, so the image above may well be from late Saturday, March 3, 1973.

Photo Details ->

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L-R: Terry Blackwood, Sherman Andrus, Jim Murray, Cass Elliot, Joe Moscheo, Armond Morales, Marty Allen, Elvis, Linda Thompson, Red West, Lorraine Allen

Hope this little piece of the puzzle helps those who need it!

I actually thought this well-researched reply would engender some serious feedback.

How often did Elvis do gospel jams with the Imperials after they left? Elvis was not thrilled they moved on to Jimmy Dean -- "that sausage maker" as Presley derisively called him.

Does Moscheo's recent book mention what they played that night, beyond "Amazing Grace"?

Was this the only time Cass sang with Elvis? Her death came just a year later, on July 29, 1974, in London. A heart attack took her at the young age of 32, leaving a 7 year-old daughter, Owen.

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:33 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:This 1973 candid is interesting on many levels.

It's the last time Elvis was slim and trim, although he was undergoing some major personal problems, sadly detailed four years later in Elvis - What Happened? (1977). Not many photos of Elvis' private, in-suite jams have ever surfaced.

The assembled are obviously singing gospel, and it appears all of the current members of the Imperials are there. Since the quintet had left Elvis' employ after the summer 1971 season in Las Vegas (September 6, 1971, to be exact), they had to have been in town with another singer -- perhaps Jimmy Dean had a booking in the area at that time.

Note that the African-American man in the picture is Sherman Andrus, who replaced Imperial Greg Gordon in early 1972 -- a VERY controversial move in the conservative-minded gospel field.

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Elliot began a run with Allen at the Flamingo a week after Elvis closed at the Hilton. After seeing them, he invited them all back to his suite, so the image above may well be from late Saturday, March 3, 1973.

Photo Details ->

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L-R: Terry Blackwood, Sherman Andrus, Jim Murray, Cass Elliot, Joe Moscheo, Armond Morales, Marty Allen, Elvis, Linda Thompson, Red West, Lorraine Allen

Hope this little piece of the puzzle helps those who need it!

I actually thought this well-researched reply would engender some serious feedback.

How often did Elvis do gospel jams with the Imperials after they left? Elvis was not thrilled they moved on to Jimmy Dean -- "that sausage maker" as Presley derisively called him.

Does Moscheo's recent book mention what they played that night, beyond "Amazing Grace"?

Was this the only time Cass sang with Elvis? Her death came just a year later, on July 29, 1974, in London. A heart attack took her at the young age of 32, leaving a 7 year-old daughter, Owen.



Cass had a great voice. interesting that her daughter is so close in age to Elvis'.

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:34 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:The assembled are obviously singing gospel


The photo shows people around a piano. Yes, we know that gospel was performed at this jam ...

... but they could have been singing anything in this picture! :?

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:51 pm

scott wrote:The photo shows people around a piano. Yes, we know that gospel was performed at this jam ... but they could have been singing anything in this picture!

One look at Jim Murray's face in that candid, not to mention Cass Elliot's, tells the story -- they are singing gospel. According to Moscheo, that was all they sang the entire evening.

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:34 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote: Elliot began a run with Allen at the Flamingo a week after Elvis closed at the Hilton. After seeing them, he invited them all back to his suite, so the image above may well be from late Saturday, March 3, 1973.

Hi John - in fact Cass Elliot opened at Flamingo 1 day before Elvis closed at Hilton (Febr 23rd), see also publicity add below. So the picture could have been taken between Febr 22nd and March 8th (when Elvis left Vegas). However, since it has been reported that Cass Elliot attended Elvis' closing night, perhaps he invited her to his suite after his last performance.

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Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 am

E-Cat wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote: Elliot began a run with Allen at the Flamingo a week after Elvis closed at the Hilton. After seeing them, he invited them all back to his suite, so the image above may well be from late Saturday, March 3, 1973.

Hi John - in fact Cass Elliot opened at Flamingo 1 day before Elvis closed at Hilton (Febr 23rd), see also publicity add below. So the picture could have been taken between Febr 22nd and March 8th (when Elvis left Vegas).

This could be -- do we know the dates when Marty Allen played the strip? Or if we pin down the Las Vegas activities of the Imperials, that might help. My guess is 2/23 or later for the gospel jam.

The advert is fascinating. Notice the pull quotes include one from Frank Lieberman of the Los Angeles Times-Herald, who wrote some very nice items on Elvis in the early 1970s. And her manager was the flamboyant Allan Carr -- later to have huge success working on "Saturday Night Fever," "Grease" and other films.

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Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:30 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:And her manager was the flamboyant Allan Carr -- later to have huge success working on "Saturday Night Fever," "Grease" and other films.
...and appearantly a good friend of Ann Marget and husband Roger Smith:

A-M at Allan's birthday May 27th 1973

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drjohncarpenter wrote:Or if we pin down the Las Vegas activities of the Imperials, that might help.

I already tried to find more info on Jimmy Dean / Imperials acts during their Vegas period - but very few info I could find..