Post here your Elvis' pictures

at the hayride?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:02 pm

Just saw this on eBay

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Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:05 pm

Louisiana Hayride? Looks like a Florida pic from 1961 to me.

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:17 pm

I would say that TJ is right on the timeline. What a cool pic! Is that Gene Smith behind Elvis? And Red West under "Ebay"?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:19 pm

It's not the Hayride! Where are his sideburns? I'm with TJ: looks like 1961 Florida.
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:21 pm

going to have to wait for Brian or Ger to chime in on this one I think.

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:24 pm

To be more specific, July 1961 in Ocala -- during a break in the filming of "Follow That Dream"?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:29 pm

Isn't the hair style a la Flaming Star?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:34 pm

Spellbinder wrote:Isn't the hair style a la Flaming Star?


No.

He had black hair for "Flaming Star".

His hair for "Follow That Dream" was its natural reddy-brown:

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The eBay image clearly displays this lighter shade, not to mention being raised up in the same way.

Here's the evidence I summoned:

One steamy July day in 1961, Elvis got the shakes and Ocala felt the heat.It happened during a break in the filming of "Follow That Dream." Part of the movie was shot in Ocala and other Central Florida locations, including Crystal River, Inverness and Yankeetown.

Elvis had been in Ocala once before, on May 10, 1955, at the old Southeastern Livestock Pavilion, during the dawn of his singing career. He was on a bill headlined by country singer Hank Snow. Six years later, Elvis was back in town for the film shoot.


Source: http://www.rightinflorida.blogspot.com/

Original source (according to above): The Ocala Star-Banner

Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:52 pm

Cryogenic wrote:To be more specific, July 1961 in Ocala -- during a break in the filming of "Follow That Dream"?


I don't thinks so. This pic looks definitely pre-Army, to me anyway

though i won't swear to it
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:53 pm

No 1961 photo. No grease ducktail etc....57 before dying jetblack..IMO.[/i] Or even 55! look at his youngster face! PS. You can see his cuz or someone that looks like his cuz with that 50s hairstring over the forehead....PS. Sideburns grow back you know! ....another... after finishing King creole he had haircut, shaved burns before ARMY? 1958???

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:01 pm

Juan Luis wrote: PS. You can see his cuz or someone that looks like his cuz with that 50s hairstring over the forehead....


sort of looks like Jr. Smith who died in 59 i believe

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:01 pm

No way, guys. This is post-army. With natural hair colour. In Florida. That locks it in at 1961. He can still look young at 26, can't he? I'm gonna be that age in two years!

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:04 pm

JamesVRoy wrote:
Juan Luis wrote: PS. You can see his cuz or someone that looks like his cuz with that 50s hairstring over the forehead....


sort of looks like Jr. Smith who died in 59 i believe
That is key if it is him! ..EP can look at 26 as 22 or even 20...But in 61 his hair was DRY. :) PS. Palm trees could mean anywhere gulf coast.

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:08 pm

It *is* dry -- on the top. Look at the image I brought in from "Follow That Dream" again where he's resting against a palm. Yes, a PALM. *wink* [EDIT: You pre-empted that one! You little swine! :lol:] It's dry on top, but looks distinctly slicked at the side. He also has a fuller face in the eBay and FTD shot. In the 50's, his face was leaner. I am not an expert, but I am standing by my belief here: 1961. ALL THE WAY.

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:10 pm

Cryogenic wrote:It *is* dry -- on the top. Look at the image I brought in from "Follow That Dream" again where he's resting against a palm. Yes, a PALM. *wink* [EDIT: You pre-empted that one! You little swine! :lol:] It's dry on top, but looks distinctly slicked at the side. He also has a fuller face in the eBay and FTD shot. In the 50's, his face was leaner. I am not an expert, but I am standing by my belief here: 1961. ALL THE WAY.
Is that a ghost of his cuz on the left with super duper 50 ish hair? :lol:

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:15 pm

Does this have to get ugly? :lol:

Juan, ONE PERSON! Who you can't even see in full! Why is no one else sporting such a 50's haircut ... given that there's DOZENS of people in the photo?

Oh, and Elvis can't look young at this time? Here's another still from the movie:

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/ ... 698336.jpg

Looks very young to me!

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:22 pm

I sent a question to the seller on eBay asking why he thinks its the Hayride. Doubt he'll have much insight but lets see what he says.
It looks a little like Jr. but I can't swear it is.

Cool shot whenever it was anyway. You going to get the "sample" out of it Juan, or is it Narek that does that?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:23 pm

Isn't this where Tom Petty met Elvis?

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:36 pm

This was taken at the Hayride in 1954 yet Elvis looks older on this one.

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Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:38 pm

JamesVRoy wrote:I sent a question to the seller on eBay asking why he thinks its the Hayride. Doubt he'll have much insight but lets see what he says.
It looks a little like Jr. but I can't swear it is.

Cool shot whenever it was anyway. You going to get the "sample" out of it Juan, or is it Narek that does that?
must be narek..thanks for thinking of me! :) ...

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:41 pm

Cryogenic wrote:It *is* dry -- on the top. Look at the image I brought in from "Follow That Dream" again where he's resting against a palm. Yes, a PALM. *wink* [EDIT: You pre-empted that one! You little swine! :lol:] It's dry on top, but looks distinctly slicked at the side. He also has a fuller face in the eBay and FTD shot. In the 50's, his face was leaner. I am not an expert, but I am standing by my belief here: 1961. ALL THE WAY.
Elvis had water retention or full face "problems" most of his public his life..plenty of Alfred W. 56 photos showing EP a little full or round in the face..really! PS. We all do when getting up in the moring for example...
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:43 pm

Little Darlin wrote:This was taken at the Hayride in 1954 yet Elvis looks older on this one.

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That's one funny looking guitar

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:44 pm

Little Darlin wrote:This was taken at the Hayride in 1954 yet Elvis looks older on this one.

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/Hi LD!

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:48 pm

Cryogenic wrote: Here's the evidence I summoned:

One steamy July day in 1961, Elvis got the shakes and Ocala felt the heat.It happened during a break in the filming of "Follow That Dream." Part of the movie was shot in Ocala and other Central Florida locations, including Crystal River, Inverness and Yankeetown.

Elvis had been in Ocala once before, on May 10, 1955, at the old Southeastern Livestock Pavilion, during the dawn of his singing career. He was on a bill headlined by country singer Hank Snow. Six years later, Elvis was back in town for the film shoot.


Source: http://www.rightinflorida.blogspot.com/

Original source (according to above): The Ocala Star-Banner


I doubt Elvis would have worn a jacket during these extreme hot July days in Florida 1961. The article below also confirms this several times. In addition I doubt whether 'Southern Tours Inc.' (see bus at picture) would even visit an unknown place like Ocala those days. Perhaps it is a shot from Tampa. Nevertheless, it is a beautiful picture:

One steamy July day in 1961, Elvis got the shakes and Ocala felt the heat.

It happened during a break in the filming of "Follow That Dream." Part of the movie was shot in Ocala and other Central Florida locations, including Crystal River, Inverness and Yankeetown. During filming, Elvis stayed at the Port Paradise Hotel in Crystal River.

Elvis was doing a scene at the old Commercial Bank and Trust Company on State Road 40 in Ocala. The air conditioner was turned off, as the camera's microphones were picking up the noise. The heat was intense, and Elvis kept sweating through his denim shirts.

Outside, a couple thousand people gathered, with the hope of glimpsing Elvis. He looked out the window and, during a filming break, decided to give the people outside something to remember.

Elvis, 26, stepped through the door near the bank entrance. Once outside, he began to twist and shake his body as if he were singing "Hound Dog." The whole thing lasted about a minute, but that's all it took to thrill the crowd. The people began screaming, yelling and waving.

After getting all shook up, Elvis gave the fans a big wave and darted back into the bank.

"It was incredible, unbelievable," said Louise Sherouse, now 69, who was there that day. "Elvis comes outside and starts doing all these gyrations, shaking everything. All the people went wild, the girls just couldn't stop screaming. It was hard to believe he was right with us in Ocala."

Elvis had been in Ocala once before, on May 10, 1955, at the old Southeastern Livestock Pavilion, during the dawn of his singing career. He was on a bill headlined by country singer Hank Snow. Six years later, Elvis was back in town for the film shoot.

Sherouse's father, the late Tom High, worked as a security guard in the bank and couldn't stand Elvis.

"I loved Elvis, and when he came on television, I asked my dad to watch," Sherouse said. "He hated the way he moved when he sang his songs. 'That is the most vulgar thing I've ever seen,'Ê" High told his daughter, adding, "'That man should be ashamed of himself the way he shakes his hips and moves his body.'"

High changed his tune once he met Elvis.
"My dad came to really like Elvis," Sherouse said. "He said Elvis was so polite and well-mannered. Elvis would say, 'yes sir, yes ma'am.' He was wonderful with everyone, so humble and personable. You never felt he was some big star looking down on you. Just being around him made you feel good."

During one shooting break, Sherouse took her son, Tony, 4, to meet Elvis. "Here, let me hold him in my arms so you can get a picture," Elvis said, lifting Tony up.

"He was so gracious and nice," Sherouse added. "I'll never forget him."

A REGULAR GUY
The same holds true for the other locals who worked as extras and had other duties on "Follow That Dream"

George "Red" Langdon did a little bit of everything on the film set, including pal around with the star.

One day, Langdon remembers, he and Elvis sat on the grass by the side of the road and threw small rocks into the water. "We just sat there talking, like I'm talking to you," said Langdon, now 74.

Langdon, with his Southern accent, good-ole'-boy personality and strawberry blond hair, seemed to fit right in with the hordes of pals, hangers-on and entourage of helpers who did everything for Elvis, from opening doors to buying sunglasses to lighting his cigarettes.

"I just hit it off with Elvis," Langdon said. "We were close to the same age, and he seemed a lot like me. He came across as a regular guy."

One day, Langdon asked Elvis for an autograph for his 4-year-old daughter. "Elvis asked to see a picture of my daughter and then he asked me her name. I told him, Lisa-Kim."

Elvis paused and, according to Langdon, said "Lisa's such a beautiful name. If I ever have a daughter, I'd like to name her Lisa."

Of course, Elvis and his wife, Priscilla, did have a daughter: Lisa Marie Presley, born Feb. 1, 1968.

Elvis had a way of relating to people, and that's one reason he was so admired, Langdon said. "He told me, 'Red, I know what it's like to be poor and I know what it's like to be rich. My fans mean everything to me.'"

LIKE A FANTASY
One fan was Linda Longo, who in 1961 was a 19-year-old beauty queen from Ocala. She landed a role as an extra in "Follow That Dream" and appears in a couple of scenes in the bank.

"I had a crush on Elvis - those eyes, that hair and that face," Longo said. "That man was beautiful. He had an aura about him. Elvis smiled at you and you just wanted to be with him. When he looked at you, you felt he was looking at you and no one else."

This was prime-time Elvis, circa 1961. He was young, strong, lean and cool. At times it didn't seem real to be on the set with Elvis, shooting a movie and then talking to him between takes. During one break, Longo said, Elvis sat in the corner of the bank and strummed some tunes on a guitar.

"It was like a fantasy," Longo said. These days, she said her three grown children - June, Beverly and Paolo - watch a video of "Follow That Dream" and always hit the pause button when mom comes on screen.

"It's a nice memory and very special to me," Longo said. "I was a big Elvis fan and had all his records and loved his movies."

It wasn't the rock or movie star that left an indelible mark on Longo, but Elvis the human being.

"Elvis was just so humble and down to earth, you couldn't help but like him," Longo said.

Richard Pembroke, another extra, shared those feelings.

"Elvis was as hometown as you could get," he said. "He'd walk up and talk to anybody."

When asked what he talked about, Pembroke replied, "We were both young guys, and we talked what young guys always talk about - women."

When not gabbing, "Elvis was working hard, memorizing lines," Pembroke said. "He came across as a regular guy, like a truck driver. But then he'd give a wiggle and shake, and people would go crazy. Kids followed him wherever he went; Elvis had something that was magic."

PART OF DOING BUSINESS
Martin Stephens said he was one of four Ocala police officers constantly assigned to guard Elvis. Stephens estimated more than 100 local security personnel were hired to work on the movie.

One day, Elvis went to eat lunch with the movie crew at the old Marion Hotel. The four cops waited by the door when Elvis went inside. A few minutes later, Elvis returned.

"Hey guys," Stephens said Elvis told them, "we don't have a lot of time left, you better get in here and get something to eat." Stephens said Elvis ordered four steaks for the cops. "And Elvis ate a grilled cheese sandwich."

Col. Tom Parker, Elvis' manager, spoke to the officers about security early on.

"We thought the biggest thing we had to do was protect Elvis from his fans," said Stephens, who was paid $3 an hour for the work. "The Colonel told us not to worry if some fans got through and close to Elvis, because Elvis could handle it."

Most of the time, Stephens, said, Elvis did just that, signing autographs, taking pictures and making small talk.

"One time, the crowd was really getting big and they kept asking for autographs. I told him, 'Elvis, we can stop this.' He said, 'No, it's all part of doing business.'"

"He was one of the nicest, personable people I've ever met," said Stephens. "He liked cops and he respected police. I had just gotten out of the Army, and Elvis got out of the Army about a year before. We talked a lot about Army life and the military." Elvis was passionate about karate and put on a couple of demonstrations for the cops, breaking boards, Stephens said.

"Elvis was tough; he could handle himself," Stephens said. He recalled one incident in which a guy in the crowd was chiding Elvis and called him "hillbilly" and "pretty boy."

"I said, 'C'mon Elvis, let's go,'" Stephens said, adding he had no doubt Elvis could have ripped the guy apart - "if he wanted."

ELVIS GETS UPSET
Bill Layton, then a 17-year-old extra on the set, remembered one time when Elvis got upset during the filming. The star kept changing his denim shirts in the July heat because he was sweating through them. No one on the set at the bank had an iron to press the shirts, Layton said, so his mother, Jean, had to go home and get one to use.

One scene, Layton said, took more than 30 takes and Elvis, hot, sweaty and tired, finally had enough. Elvis growled out in a loud voice, sprinkled with salty language, "What's it going to take to get this (expletive) scene done."

"He was human," Layton said. "But that was an exception, because as soon as you were around him, you knew Elvis was a genuinely nice guy who loved people."

Forty-six years have passed since part of "Follow That Dream" was filmed in Central Florida. For the local people involved, the memories remain.

"Think about it. We got paid $10 a day to rub elbows with Elvis," Pembroke said. "I ate with Elvis, and I had a chance to shoot the bull with him. What could be better than that?"
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:49 pm

Juan Luis wrote:Elvis had water retention or full face "problems" most of his public his life..plenty of Alfred W. 56 photos showing EP a little full or round in the face..really! PS. We all do when getting up in the moring for example...


I never look bad in the morning. :P

Everyone has slightly different bone structure, fat distribution etc. Our DNA codes for these things.

Elvis always had a fairly "full" looking face, for want of a better description. And ANYONE can look older or younger than they "really" are, depending on the angle of the photo, time of day taken, light settings etc. Photography is a very hit and miss affair. That's why only "the best of the best" make it to the magazines etc.

For me, the defining feature of that eBay photo is the hair. The burden is on you, Juan et al. .... to find a photo from the 50's that matches it as closely as my "Follow That Dream" shot. I don't think you'll find one.

EDIT: E-Cat: I never thought of the jacket scenario. The bus is a troubling fixture, indeed. Does anyone know how far that company roamed in the 60's? This image is definitely a puzzle. If it's not from July 1961, when do you think it's from?
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