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Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:51 pm

Anybody have that awesome photo of EP getting off the train in Memphis, ( I'm assuming he'd just come from New York ), and walking home to his house on Audubon drive, carrying his record player. It's from the original Wertheimer collection. Thanks in advance. I believe the photo was taken July 4th, 1956.

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:51 pm

This is the only one I have - and not one of very good quality. I think that it's just a screen cap from Elvis '56.
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I hope somebody else can help you out more!

Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:26 am

Little Sister wrote:This is the only one I have - and not one of very good quality. I think that it's just a screen cap from Elvis '56.
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I hope somebody else can help you out more!


Thanks Little Sister! I also think there is a photo of EP with his back towards us, cutting across the field, I could be wrong however.

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:33 am

carolynlm wrote:Does anyone know where these were taken.....was it far from Elvis' house?


I believe he just left the Memphis train station and after kindly refusing a ride home, decided to walk home. Anybody have any idea of how far the walk was to his Audubon home?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:50 am

Joe Car wrote:
carolynlm wrote:Does anyone know where these were taken.....was it far from Elvis' house?


I believe he just left the Memphis train station and after kindly refusing a ride home, decided to walk home. Anybody have any idea of how far the walk was to his Audubon home?


I thought they stopped the train outside the station for just Elvis to get off.

Don't know where I read that now, but thinking about it, it seems a little far-fetched !

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:52 am

Joe Car wrote:...I believe he just left the Memphis train station and after kindly refusing a ride home, decided to walk home. Anybody have any idea of how far the walk was to his Audubon home?


Both Union Station and Central Station were located in downtown Memphis, which was a long way from Audubon Drive--several miles. No way he walked from there.

However, when Elvis returned to Memphis in March, 1960, the train stopped briefly at Buntyn Station on Southern Avenue, which wasn't far from Audubon Drive. He could conceivably have gotten off there, or somewhere else close, and trekked the rest of the way home.

Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:40 am

I always thought this happened on Poplar Ave in Midtown Memphis. Can't recall without a map how far from his home this would have been. You can still see where this happened....the tracks and grassy area are still there.

Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:10 am

davidtcb1 wrote:I always thought this happened on Poplar Ave in Midtown Memphis. Can't recall without a map how far from his home this would have been.
You can still see where this happened....the tracks and grassy area are still there.


So was that an unscheduled stop ?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:51 pm

The Chattanooga-Memphis train, which made every stop along the way made one of its whistle-stops in a rural suburb of Memphis and Elvis stepped off and as the train pulled out in direction of Downtown Memphis he waved goodbye and walked home alone.

I believe I have even seen a photo or maybe from Elvis 56 DVD where there is a sign where Elvis steps off of the train. Don't remember if it said "White only" but the train did not just stop to let Elvis off because he was Elvis. It would have stopped for anybody who wanted to get off at the whistle-stop.

Sincerely
Brian
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:53 pm

KHoots wrote:
Joe Car wrote:...I believe he just left the Memphis train station and after kindly refusing a ride home, decided to walk home. Anybody have any idea of how far the walk was to his Audubon home?


Both Union Station and Central Station were located in downtown Memphis, which was a long way from Audubon Drive--several miles. No way he walked from there.

However, when Elvis returned to Memphis in March, 1960, the train stopped briefly at Buntyn Station on Southern Avenue, which wasn't far from Audubon Drive. He could conceivably have gotten off there, or somewhere else close, and trekked the rest of the way home.


Copy and pasted this info from another forum,

Another quote which kind of sums up how we feel can be found in the book Memphis Elvis Style by Cindy Hazen and Mike Freeman

"Twenty eight hours later he got off at White Station on the outskirts of Memphis. Still wearing his suit and tie, he left the Colonel and others on the train, and he walked home alone to Audubon Drive. Met without fanfare it seemed like an ordinary moment, except that we are witness to it. Alfred Wertheimers photographs......captured Elvis at that rare point in his career when he was seemingly famous and unknown all at once, when he could walk home unrecognised but be followed by a NY photographer, when he could leave the television and recordingstudios and return to his Mama's home cooking.Perhaps thats why the moment is so poignant, because it was so short lived."

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:26 pm

bripet56 wrote:....the train did not just stop to let Elvis off because he was Elvis.
It would have stopped for anybody who wanted to get off at the whistle-stop.


Thanks !

That kinda loose, informal system must have played havoc with their timetables !

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:43 pm

Thanks Joe, that must have been WHITE Station that was meant on the sign I thought I had seen somewhere.

And White Station is situated just north of Poplar Avenue which is a mere 1.7 mile from his Audubon Drive home if he would have followed the roads home. It's more likely that he walked through Audubon Park and he'd have about a mile to walk.

Sincerely
Brian
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:46 pm

Well Colin, I'm not sure but I do believe that those small whistle-stops were only to let people off. You couldn't get ON the train at those stops.

And wouldn't it be nice if we were not such prisoners of time :lol:

Sincerely
Brian
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:11 pm

bripet56 wrote:Thanks Joe, that must have been WHITE Station that was meant on the sign I thought I had seen somewhere.

And White Station is situated just north of Poplar Avenue which is a mere 1.7 mile from his Audubon Drive home if he would have followed the roads home. It's more likely that he walked through Audubon Park and he'd have about a mile to walk.

Sincerely
Brian
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http://www.fly.to/brian56


Great detective work Brian, thanks. Nice walk, ( probably nervous energy from his trip ) and then a concert that very same night at Russwood park. Ahh, to be 21 again and have all of that stamina, always on the go. My son's 20, he never stops either.

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:16 pm

bripet56 wrote:And wouldn't it be nice if we were not such prisoners of time :lol:


Well, yeah.

The older I get the more I think about time.

Like telling the time in years past.

The Red Indians [oops ! Native Americans] didn't need precise times.

"When the shadow of the big mountain touches the bank of the little river, it's time to go home for tea"

That sort of thing.

But what about the Romans ?

They had a sophisticated political system with senate meetings and such like.

I've been involved in arranging and attending meetings in the workplace, and it's the devil's job to get a number of people together at the same time !

And that's with modern, portable timepieces, mobile phones etc !

I know the Romans had 'candle clocks' with metal rings set in them so they could read off when an hour passed, but how would that help all senators to be at a meeting together at an exact time ?

Any suggestions ?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:31 pm

ColinB wrote:
bripet56 wrote:And wouldn't it be nice if we were not such prisoners of time :lol:


Well, yeah.

The older I get the more I think about time.

Like telling the time in years past.

The Red Indians [oops ! Native Americans] didn't need precise times.

"When the shadow of the big mountain touches the bank of the little river, it's time to go home for tea"

That sort of thing.

But what about the Romans ?

They had a sophisticated political system with senate meetings and such like.

I've been involved in arranging and attending meetings in the workplace, and it's the devil's job to get a number of people together at the same time !

And that's with modern, portable timepieces, mobile phones etc !

I know the Romans had 'candle clocks' with metal rings set in them so they could read off when an hour passed, but how would that help all senators to be at a meeting together at an exact time ?

Any suggestions ?


An hour glass. :wink:

Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:06 pm

Joe Car wrote:An hour glass. :wink:


Same problems of synchronisation as with the candles !

Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:19 am

Just did a little more research on where Elvis got off the train on July 4th, 1956.

That whole area was quite different many years ago, as you might imagine. It was actually known as White — or more accurately, White’s — Station, after the little train station that once stood at Poplar and (645 S)Mendenhall. (The street known today as White Station was built later, several blocks to the east.) Even as late as the 1950s, Poplar was a two-lane road, and Mendenhall actually dead-ended on the north side of Poplar.
Anyway, in the early 1950s, a cluster of little mom-and-pop businesses stood at the northeast corner of Poplar and Mendenhall, including the Town & Country Barber Shop, Modern Shoe Rebuilders, Hamkirk’s Drive-In Grocery, Hamilton’s Variety Store, Brouse Drugstore, and a few others.

I've made a few screen-prints from Elvis 56 where Elvis gets off the train and passes Modern Shoe Rebuilders and at the very corner of Mendenhall the Town & Country Barber Shop.

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Sincerely
Brian
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:48 am

Brian, these photo's are awesome, thanks again. If you don't mind, I posted a copy of these on another site as it involves our discussion.

Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:19 am

Guys, look at photo's 6 & 8. It looks like the car driving by turned around, perhaps the driver recognized EP, what do you think? The bottom photo EP hasn't quite reached the corner and the car is across the street. In the 6th photo, EP's past the corner and the car is on the same side.

Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:58 am

You're right Joe, it does indeed look like the same car has turned around to get a better look at Elvis.

The last 4 photos should appear in this order (6, 8, 7, 5) to show them in the order they were shot by Al Wertheimer.

Sincerely
Brian
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:26 pm

Where exactly is this intersection in Memphis? Anybody know?

Next time i'm in Memphis i'd like to go to see what it looks like today.

RKS

Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:22 pm

Here's a map of how it looks today. The intersection that Elvis crosses in the photos is Poplar Avenue and Mendenhall.

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And here you see a satellite photo of the Poplar Avenue/Mendenhall section as it looks today. Or at least within the last year or two.

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Sincerely
Brian
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Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:12 am

Brian, that was a damn excellent reply - ie. those maps! Very interesting, indeed!

Re: Special request

Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:56 am

Joe Car wrote:Anybody have that awesome photo of EP getting off the train in Memphis, ( I'm assuming he'd just come from New York ), and walking home to his house on Audubon drive, carrying his record player. It's from the original Wertheimer collection. Thanks in advance. I believe the photo was taken July 4th, 1956.


We've all heard the story about E and his actates ( the Dewey story - but that was later on - "All Shock Up" I believe etc). E played those Radio recordings for 'EVERYBODY' while his stay at the Knickerbocker. But I don't see him holding his actates after he got off the train? He played them on the train. I've wondered about that.