Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:29 am
Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:30 pm
Albert Goldman wrote:I still prefer Don Robertson over Red West and Anything that's Part of You over That's Someone You Never Forget ...
Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:05 pm
Albert Goldman wrote:drjohncarpenter wrote:Albert Goldman wrote:You are right, it may be my loss. But I'm happy as long as I don't realize it.
I'll bet you're pretty bummed right now
Well, you bet your money on the wrong horse, Doc. You do not convince me with couple of adjectives that could describe many of Elvis' performances from the early sixties. I still prefer Don Robertson over Red West and Anything that's Part of You over That's Someone You Never Forget,
Mitch, YOU got a point there!
Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:01 pm
Bobc wrote:I know that has nothing to do with this thread ...
Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:14 pm
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Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:13 am
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Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:34 am
Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:36 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Post on topic, please, Dann.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:42 am
brian wrote:Red West said that he wrote a song that Petula Clark recorded.
I couldn't find anymore information as to what song it was.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:46 am
Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:51 am
TCB TED wrote:Nice, thought provoking post, Doc.
Like many others, I've always admired Red's ability to call it as he saw it, even to his own detriment.
The paradox has always been Red's tough guy persona combined with a very tender, thoughtful, songwriter.
I'm intrigued by "That's Someone You'll Never Forget".
I enjoy the song primarily for its musical arrangement, not to mention the superb display of Elvis' magnificent vibrato.
Does anyone know if Red was part of the musical arrangement on the song?
To me, the arrangement is as good as any of Elvis' 1961 ballads.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:25 am
Dan_T wrote:What makes "Little Milton" feel he did a better job than Elvis ?
Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:33 am
Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:02 am
Frankie Teardrop wrote:Dan_T wrote:What makes "Little Milton" feel he did a better job than Elvis ?
Nice patronising use of quotes there. The level of musical knowledge some people have here never ceases to amaze me.
Dan_T wrote:Are you serious ?
Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:41 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:Albert Goldman wrote:I still prefer Don Robertson over Red West and Anything that's Part of You over That's Someone You Never Forget ...
Good for you!
You have fun, and the rest of us will continue to enjoy Red's stunning contribution.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:14 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:luckyjackson1 wrote:... Doc, great topic as usual and a joy to read. Honestly.
Thank you.Albert Goldman wrote:brian wrote:
I also liked ''That's someone you'll never forget'' as an album track.
Many fans seem to enjoy this number. Again I consider this an average, even forgettable track - although Elvis takes the song quite seriously.
Your opinion is a corner-case view.
Many "seem to enjoy" the song because it is an incredible track, probably Red's finest Presley effort.
Elvis approaches it with delicacy and grace, the arrangement is both majestic and understated, and the lyrics are superb. Here, in the middle of 1961, we have an Elvis miles away from the soundtrack fodder of "Blue Hawaii" or "G.I. Blues," and rock 'n' roll is only apparent in the deep passion of the performance. Bob Moore's acoustic bass work, in particular, is outstanding.
"That's Someone You Never Forget" was the sound of Elvis taking his music to a new place, to a deeply personal level, and it's a shame he didn't explore it much further. From this period, only the Don Robertson-penned numbers come close.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:34 pm
Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:01 pm
Dan_T wrote:Are you serious ?
Don't bother replying.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:04 pm
Albert Goldman wrote:Well, it is a shame that Elvis didn't pick that widely popular tune on a single... yet another loss in the never ending if-topics.
Albert Goldman wrote:But let's not spoil your fun or my fun, I'll ask you a serious question: since you rate this song so high, do you also rate Red West as one of the most important contributors of Elvis canon in the pre-comeback sixties?
Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:26 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:Albert Goldman wrote:Well, it is a shame that Elvis didn't pick that widely popular tune on a single... yet another loss in the never ending if-topics.
As noted on page 1, "That's Someone You Never Forget" was a single release in 1967, but it's not really "singles" material.
Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:30 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:As a songwriter -- no. For one thing, he didn't contribute that many tunes.
The title probably goes to Pomus and Shuman.
A Mess Of Blues (1960)
Doin' The Best I Can (1960)
Kiss Me Quick (1961)
His Latest Flame (1961)
Little Sister (1961)
Gonna Get Back Home Somehow (1962)
Night Rider (1962)
I Feel That I've Known You Forever (1962)
She's Not You (1962)
Long Lonely Highway (1963)
Viva Las Vegas (1963)
I Need Somebody To Lean On (1963)
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