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Unfortunately, your analysis is flawed, and the conclusions incorrect.KiwiAlan wrote:So
1957 LOC 1035 EPA 4108
1958 LOC 1035 EPA 4108
1959 March LPM 1951 with red cover
1959 October LPM 1951 with cover change EPA 4340
I note that Billboard charts in the early 60's treated both versions as the one entity
I don't think the Canadian LPM 1951 was released in March, there's noKiwiAlan wrote: 1957 LOC 1035 EPA 4108
1958 LOC 1035 EPA 4108
1959 March LPM 1951 with red cover
1959 October LPM 1951 with cover change EPA 4340
Thanks for the reminder; I never said anything of the kind.THEMEMPHISFAN wrote:... Let me remind you that if LPM-1951 (U.S.) turns out to be a 1959 release, you (drjohncarpenter) were the one adamantly insisting that it was a 1960 release.
Fair enough Barry.Barry wrote:Hi Dick.
I checked with RCA Canada, but no release record.
The thing is RCA Canada needed a Christmas LP of Elvis for 1958, and as LOC-1035 was only in stock for 1957, and remember RCA Canada imported the U.S. cover and only pressed the record, stock was gone, quick fix --reissue it with almost the same cover, and a new number.
drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the reminder; I never said anything of the kind.THEMEMPHISFAN wrote:... Let me remind you that if LPM-1951 (U.S.) turns out to be a 1959 release, you (drjohncarpenter) were the one adamantly insisting that it was a 1960 release.
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For everyone else, I have some VERY interesting additional information coming up.
drjohncarpenter wrote:
POSSIBLE --> release of LPM 1951 in Nov 1959
Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!!
I´m actually a NATO OR-7 or an U.S.A Senior Chief Petty Officer, so Sergeant Elvis Presley salute!elvisfan_48079 wrote:Actually Doc, one chevron (stripe) indicates the rank of private E-2. If Elvis were a private 1st class (PFC) E-3 he would have one chevron with a rocker beneath it. Here are the ranks Elvis held during his military career;
E-1: private (often referred to as buck private)
E-2: private
E-3: private first class (PFC)
E-4: specialist 4th class (often referred to as spec4)
E-5: sargeant (often referred to as buck sargeant)
I'll leave it up to the more informed to provide the dates when he achieved each rank.. Bye for now
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Mike Windgren.
Comooooooo? jo vaig anar a la mili ... 3 setmanes i fora !frus75 wrote:Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!!
I´m actually a NATO OR-7 or an U.S.A Senior Chief Petty Officer, so Sergeant Elvis Presley salute!elvisfan_48079 wrote:Actually Doc, one chevron (stripe) indicates the rank of private E-2. If Elvis were a private 1st class (PFC) E-3 he would have one chevron with a rocker beneath it. Here are the ranks Elvis held during his military career;
E-1: private (often referred to as buck private)
E-2: private
E-3: private first class (PFC)
E-4: specialist 4th class (often referred to as spec4)
E-5: sargeant (often referred to as buck sargeant)
I'll leave it up to the more informed to provide the dates when he achieved each rank.
Mike Windgren.
I am a OF-1 (Alférez or Second Lieutenant) on the CIMIC Battalion on the Spanish Army on the voluntary reserve. I am about to promote to first lieutenant.
Epileptico! segons ells ...
.Hola compañero de armas, aquí un suboficial de carrera desde Philadelphia trabajando para la Armada española bajo mandato NATO. Un saludofrus75 wrote:Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!!
I´m actually a NATO OR-7 or an U.S.A Senior Chief Petty Officer, so Sergeant Elvis Presley salute!elvisfan_48079 wrote:Actually Doc, one chevron (stripe) indicates the rank of private E-2. If Elvis were a private 1st class (PFC) E-3 he would have one chevron with a rocker beneath it. Here are the ranks Elvis held during his military career;
E-1: private (often referred to as buck private)
E-2: private
E-3: private first class (PFC)
E-4: specialist 4th class (often referred to as spec4)
E-5: sargeant (often referred to as buck sargeant)
I'll leave it up to the more informed to provide the dates when he achieved each rank.
Mike Windgren.
I am a OF-1 (Alférez or Second Lieutenant) on the CIMIC Battalion on the Spanish Army on the voluntary reserve. I am about to promote to first lieutenant.
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Here we see Elvis' Christmas Album - LOC 1035 and LPM 1951 BOTH being cited as available!11 - ELVIS' CHRISTMAS ALBUM, Elvis Presley, RCA Victor
LPM 1951 (M) and/or LOC 1035 (M); (No Stereo)
Billboard made GREAT distinction between the two, one of the core points of my previous post.ekenee wrote:It also tells me that Billboard made no distinction between the original and the reissue.
Yes, the #1 music industry magazine, especially in the era we are researching.KiwiAlan wrote:All this dating is coming from one source.- Billboard.
drjohncarpenter wrote:Billboard made GREAT distinction between the two, one of the core points of my previous post.ekenee wrote:It also tells me that Billboard made no distinction between the original and the reissue.
My feeling is the 1967 entry is incorrect, but that LOC 1035 remained a retail item through Christmas 1963.Juan Luis wrote:A mint (without splits on the spine etc) copy of LOC-1035 is very hard to come by and fetches quite a bit of money when it does. If in fact it was available through 1967 it shouldn't and wouldn't be so hard to find plenty of excellent (condition) copies. My take on that. Overproduction in 57'?
Thanks for info Doc.drjohncarpenter wrote:My feeling is the 1967 entry is incorrect, but that LOC 1035 remained a retail item through Christmas 1963.Juan Luis wrote:A mint (without splits on the spine etc) copy of LOC-1035 is very hard to come by and fetches quite a bit of money when it does. If in fact it was available through 1967 it shouldn't and wouldn't be so hard to find plenty of excellent (condition) copies. My take on that. Overproduction in 57'?
Again, another neat wrinkle in the Christmas album history.
You're welcome!Juan Luis wrote: Thanks for info Doc.
