Clyde McPhatter Says Hello -> August 1970

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why should they mind ?!!!



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kevinstevenage wrote:I hope no-one minds but I am using this as an excuse to post some photos of Clyde, a great singer.
Not only was Clyde great, he was VERY much an influential figure in the development of rock 'n' roll. This fact may provide insight into the joy I felt at noticing someone meeting Elvis, a McPhatter devotee as early as 1953, who appeared to be Clyde. Your posts have certainly helped to restore some of the excitement a few members here seemed determined to stomp out. Thank you, Kevin.


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Re: Clyde McPhatter Says Hello -> August 1970

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Just mentioning this

Over at Elvis world Japan in the celeb section of the pics section they have Clyde Mcphatter logged as this same man seen in the TTWII party that the good Doctor's :D great topic is about

And i noticed on closer inspection the audio seems to be a patch up job,noy knocking it ,i am just mentioning it

Anyone got the original untouched audio i think it was found on a recent TTWII release

Surely if this is Clyde Mcphatter then surely his name would be heard being mentioned somewhere in some audio,Elvis would also know Clyde from the Drifters etc so it's 100% obvious Clyde Mcphatter name would be mentioned somewhere

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GERRY wrote:Just mentioning this

Over at Elvis world Japan in the celeb section of the pics section they have Clyde Mcphatter logged as this same man seen in the TTWII party that the good Doctor's :D great topic is about ...
Interesting! Do you have a page link?

Maybe some here can post derogatory comments about Elvis World Japan's knowledge, too.


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hi drjohncarpenter

Heres the link :-


http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~presley/celeb/ClydeMcPhatter.jpg



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drjohncarpenter wrote:
kevinstevenage wrote:I hope no-one minds but I am using this as an excuse to post some photos of Clyde, a great singer.
Not only was Clyde great, he was VERY much an influential figure in the development of rock 'n' roll. This fact may provide insight into the joy I felt at noticing someone meeting Elvis, a McPhatter devotee as early as 1953, who appeared to be Clyde. Your posts have certainly helped to restore some of the excitement a few members here seemed determined to stomp out. Thank you, Kevin.

The good Doctor has said it.

kevinstevenage by all means if you got some more photo's you want to share please do so, my friend.

And a big THANK YOU :smt006



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GERRY wrote:hi drjohncarpenter

Heres the link :-


http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~presley/celeb/ClydeMcPhatter.jpg
OK, forum members, have at it!

Thanks, GERRY.


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Transcript of the original audio would be very nice

IF it is a patch up job

IF Clyde Mcphatter name is mentioned

Elvis would surely have acted differently if it was Clyde Mcphatter?

but then surely Rick Schmidlin would have used audio that matched perfectly 100% all the way through instead of this (Brilliantly done) patch up that seems correct at times - maybe it just isnt complete

Where does this audio originate from?

oh yes i have emailed Rick Schmidlin but as yet getting no reply

Again can someone please post original complete as it is audio

This after show party is a complete gem of footage

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WHY would someone say to Elvis--you did all my moves???????????

What if Elvis addresses the man as Elvis then the person replies--you did all my moves--as a joke

Because it sure is making them both laugh

just putting some idea out there that someone else said to me

This is sure fun like some puzzle :D

Jimmy Velvet recorded the private party?




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Hello Elvis fans,

I discovered this thread last night and wanted to comment on this very interesting topic. I am an Elvis fan, but I have never described myself as a die-hard Elvis fan. If this topic were about Elvis, I would not feel I had a place to add my “two cents.” However, this thread is not about Elvis Presley; it’s about the man in the picture/video with Elvis. I am proud to say that I am a die-hard Clyde McPhatter fan. And I am absolutely positive that that is NOT Clyde McPhatter in the pictures/video with Elvis. The look is totally not Clyde and the voice doesn’t sound like his either. If I am wrong about that, then I think that would be one of the greatest shocks of my life.

I didn’t post JUST to say “that’s not Clyde McPhatter in the picture.” I also need to comment on Chris Black speaking with someone named “Lee Rackley.” Well, Clyde’s widow Lena Rackley McPhatter-Gore passed away in 1998. I’m not accusing Chris of being misleading or anything like that. I’m all about the facts and the truth, but obviously, whoever Chris spoke with was not Clyde's widow.

I have no idea who that is in the picture, though I am just as curious as anyone at this point. I did not post here to cause an argument, and I hope I didn’t offend anyone.



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Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow. Maybe he conferred with a ghost.


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Looks like "someone" is pointing to the chap in question and saying "hey you look like Clyde McPhatter" and Elvis is simply sharing the moment. :)



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drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow.
You don't mention his update about it not being Clyde.....................


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ColinB wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow.
You don't mention his update about it not being Clyde.....................
. . . and what a surprise that is (not). The word "selective" comes to mind, Colin.
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Steve Morse wrote:
ColinB wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow.
You don't mention his update about it not being Clyde.....................
. . . and what a surprise that is (not). The word "selective" comes to mind, Colin.
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Joe Car wrote:
Steve Morse wrote:
ColinB wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow.
You don't mention his update about it not being Clyde.....................
. . . and what a surprise that is (not). The word "selective" comes to mind, Colin.
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stupot wrote:Looks like "someone" is pointing to the chap in question and saying "hey you look like Clyde McPhatter" and Elvis is simply sharing the moment. :)
Or perhaps we have Clyde McPhatter asking Elvis: 'Do I have time to come up here and have one in the right place?' :lol:


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ColinB wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:Thanks for the update about Clyde's widow.
You don't mention his update about it not being Clyde.....................
Been there, done that. Get with the program, old chap.

Review the previous three pages where viable evidence was presented for discussion -- unlike your usual contribution.


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UPDATE - 13th June, 2010:

Clyde McPhatter suffered his fatal heart attack 38 years ago today when aged 39.
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Just re-read through this whole thread. C'mon Doc, that ain't Clyde McPhatter!! It's nothing like him!!!


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The picture looks a bit like Joe Morgan. 8)


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Doubters. If it is not him then which performer is that?




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Clyde Mcphatter was an awesome singer I love seeing this pic. Thanks Doc.



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PEP wrote:Regarding the picture Doc originally posted, I don't know if any of you were aware including the Doc, that was a screen shot taken from the TTWII clips of the party Elvis had after his Opening Show in Vegas on August 10th 1970.
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Anyway, since I now know that, which I didn't at first, I have now looked at the footage again, where I took a few more screen shots from different angles.
The thing's I've noticed, for example, when One look's at the side profile, One can see the nose is very close, the eye brow on his right hand side is simular, it appears to have the same angle and length over the eye. The cheek area looks similar too, the way it takes shape around the smile, the over all smile including teeth and chin do look very close. Still, just the same, One can't be positive going by all these pictures that is in fact Clyde McPatter as there are differences too, where it does not look like Clyde McPatter either.
Take note this person does mention to Elvis in the clip in a joking way "You did all my moves" so, obviously he is a entertainer. If Chris Black is able to get in touch with the daughter and she get's to see these pictures it may help.
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That's an awesome work, PEP...
It does have similar features but... just look at the eyes and compare them; the eyes of the guy with Elvis are closer and Clyde's eyes are farther apart. That's a good clue right there.
IMHO, it's not Clyde McPhatter.


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The guy sure looks like Dobie Gray.


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Renan wrote:The guy sure looks like Dobie Gray.

Unfortunately, I do not think so.


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