Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:29 am

This is Arthur Alexander:

Image

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:50 am

Exactly!

Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:39 pm

Spellbinder wrote:OK guys - problem solved. It's definitely, but definitely, Arthur Alexander.

You Better Move On -- it's not the great Arthur Alexander. Not even close.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:02 pm

This thread has managed to be both interesting and amusing. It's great to know that everyone on this messageboard can put aside their petty grievances, pool their vast knowledge and work together towards solving this genuine Elvis mystery.

OK, so we may not have solved the case but we have assembled a list of nearly 200 suspects.
:)
And isn't it supposed to be the journey rather than the destination that is most enjoyable? :wink:

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:12 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Spellbinder wrote:OK guys - problem solved. It's definitely, but definitely, Arthur Alexander.

You Better Move On -- it's not the great Arthur Alexander. Not even close.


OK - then I think it must be Frankie Lymon.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:14 pm

drjohncarpenter wrote:It's quite obviously NOT Albert King standing next to Elvis.


Doc, I was just wondering why it is obviously not Albert King. To me the pic thenexte posted looks exactly like the guy next to Elvis. And it looks like they are both left handed.
Just curious as to why it definately isn't him.

Thanx
sam

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:27 pm

sam wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:It's quite obviously NOT Albert King standing next to Elvis.


Doc, I was just wondering why it is obviously not Albert King.

Because they do not look alike -- many, many facial differences are apparent.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:28 pm

Spellbinder wrote:OK - then I think it must be Frankie Lymon.

Wrong. But I think I know what you are. Scratch "I think."

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:48 pm

It's Chubby Checker!!

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:03 pm

Spellbinder wrote:It's Chubby Checker!!


Image

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:32 pm

woodleyjohn wrote:
Spellbinder wrote:It's Chubby Checker!!


Hey Ray, are you sure it's not Mahalia Jackson, who I believe was Michael's grandmother on his father's side once removed.


Woodleyjohn, you're definitely on to something, as the answer of course has been right beneath our feet all along:

It's Michael Jackson!

Proof: The guy from the old photo doesn't look the slightest like Michael Jackson does today. And other old photos of Michael Jackson doesn't look the slightest like Michael Jackson today!

Heureka!

Ain't that someting: Elvis chatting merrily along to his future son-in-law.

Sorry - couldn't help it.

All the best,
Jakob

Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:46 pm

OK - Jakob has cracked it - close the thread.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:24 pm

woodleyjohn wrote:
Spellbinder wrote:OK - Jakob has cracked it - close the thread.


Jakob's crackers?


Yes, he is!!

Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:51 pm

Could it be J.B Lenoir?

re

Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:56 pm

i don t know if it s Albert KING on the pic

But

A King used to wear a ring on the same finger than the mystery man

Interesting to note that A King did an elvis tribute album in 1970 called
"Blues for Elvis - King Does the King's Things"

8)

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:05 pm

The guy's name is August Simms. I checked with Marty Lacker. He said,

"That is August Simms who worked for Jackie Wilson. The picture was taken on the set of Double Trouble, I think that was the movie, the day after we had seen Jackie perform at The Trip nightclub on Sunset Blvd.
We had a good time with Jackie, August and Jackie's other guy Clarence
Whatley. Some of us remained good friends with Jackie until he died. "

There ya go
Jim

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:34 pm

Let's hope that solves the mystery, once and for all. I suppose it would be too much to ask for an alternate pic to corroborate, though. :D You know, just to be sure....

Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:22 am

JamesVRoy wrote:The guy's name is August Simms. I checked with Marty Lacker. He said, "That is August Simms who worked for Jackie Wilson. The picture was taken on the set of Double Trouble, I think that was the movie, the day after we had seen Jackie perform at The Trip nightclub on Sunset Blvd. We had a good time with Jackie, August and Jackie's other guy Clarence Whatley. Some of us remained good friends with Jackie until he died. "

There ya go
Jim

Jim, although I do wish we could find an image of the man, the story from Marty is spot-on as far as what I determined as the date, place and situation. There must be a third photo of Jackie, Elvis and August from that July meeting.

If anyone owns the Jackie Wilson biography "Lonely Teardrops," August is apparently mentioned there -- perhaps there are photos, too!

According to an Amazon customer review of the biography, his name is August Sims, and his description ALSO fits the puzzle:

Jackie's touring manager, working under the auspices of Vastola, was a Mob enforcer named Johnny Roberts. Roberts employed a minder to look after Jackie. He was August Sims, a hulk of a black man weighing around 230 pounds. He provided protection as well as ensuring Jackie made his concert dates.

http://www.amazon.com/Jackie-Wilson-Tea ... 0415974305


Unless we get something else, like another hilarious joke from "Spellbinder," I think the mystery is solved!

Jim -- please tell Marty thank you, and I also really appreciate your help!

Anyone know Joe Tunzi's email address? We must let him know!!

Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:13 am

Joe prints his e-mail in public online, so I'll do so on his behalf here: JATPUBLISHING@aol.com

Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:13 am

Nice work Jim!
I must have spent an hour and a half last night trying to find out who he was... with no luck at all.

Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:19 am

James, thanks for the information from Marty Lacker. That sounds very plausible! Once we follow up, this can be confirmed for good and we can consider another piece of the puzzle solved. As a total blues nut over the years (as well as R&B, etc.), I can honestly say he didn't register at all as a face I knew, and I tend to never forget a face, even from just records.

Keep us posted, Doc, once you get that other information. Good work, folks. :D

Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:45 am

[quote="Gregory Nolan Jr.]Good work, folks.[/quote]


Thank you. I do what I can.
Last edited by Spellbinder on Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:27 am

Spellbinder wrote:[quote="Gregory Nolan Jr.Good work, folks.


Thank you. I do what I can.


And a bit more!!! :P

:lol:

Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:46 pm

Spellbinder wrote:[

Evidently, one thing you can't do is properly "quote" another posting.

If you continue to drop repeated bullsh*t comments into a worthwhile topic, as you did repeatedly on this one, don't believe for a second it won't be dealt with.

Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:09 am

JamesVRoy wrote:The guy's name is August Simms. I checked with Marty Lacker. He said,

"That is August Simms who worked for Jackie Wilson. The picture was taken on the set of Double Trouble, I think that was the movie, the day after we had seen Jackie perform at The Trip nightclub on Sunset Blvd.
We had a good time with Jackie, August and Jackie's other guy Clarence
Whatley. Some of us remained good friends with Jackie until he died. "

There ya go
Jim


Did anybody ever tell Mr. Simms that he bears a resemblance to Albert King?