The Beach Boys' 50th anniversary thread

That ain't no Beatles reunion.

That ain't no Beatles reunion.

I know....since you mentioned Beatles Reunion (Paul and Ringo). I figure give that to you.....lol

That ain't no Beatles reunion.

As close as you'll get.............

Carl Wilson was the pretty voice of the group. Like Doc said...there can't be any reunion: "God Only Knows", "I Can Hear Music"...Dennis' voice was rougher, but still an essential part of the group... "Forever", "Do You Wanna Dance"...can't leave out Al "Help Me, Rhonda"..."Sloop John B"... Not everything the Beach Boys did was nasal.

Carl Wilson was the pretty voice of the group. Like Doc said...there can't be any reunion: "God Only Knows", "I Can Hear Music"...Dennis' voice was rougher, but still an essential part of the group... "Forever", "Do You Wanna Dance"...can't leave out Al "Help Me, Rhonda"..."Sloop John B"... Not everything the Beach Boys did was nasal.

And what voices they had. Together with The Four Seasons they are my favorite male vocal pop group.

it looks like Al Jardine has retracted his Smile statement..so I guess it's NOT going to be coming out anytime soon..he does say that they may have to go in and re-record some of the songs...
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/02/14/al-j ... ite-ready/

it looks like Al Jardine has retracted his Smile statement..so I guess it's NOT going to be coming out anytime soon..he does say that they may have to go in and re-record some of the songs...
http://wcbsfm.radio.com/2011/02/14/al-j ... ite-ready/

I don't think Al is in the position to loosely, officially announce anything related to SMiLE. Perhaps there have been ongoing discussions, and assuming it was going to happen, Al prematurely let it slip. EMI has been trying to release their remaining fragments of SMiLE for years. Brian won't let it go. Be thankful 30 minutes of it was officially issued on the Good Vibrations box set. I don't see an official release of additional material happening anytime soon, but you never know....

I saw the Beach Boys at Deer Lake Park in Burnaby,B.C. in the 1990's with my cousin and his girlfriend and it was a great concert,and John Stamos was the drummer!!!

Last edited by ian on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Al was forced to retract his statement. The truth is that the project is being worked on as we speak, and the Brian camp wants to be the one to issue the official announcement.

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

Steve Hoffman has nothing to do with it. Frankie Teardrop is right, Al was forced to retract his statement, but there was no deny by Capitol, Brian Wilson's management or other official persons. Alan Boyd and Mark Linett are working on it and said that they feel uncomfortable to give any more insight. So, see what you think, but what the heck....Steve Hoffman.....?

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

Steve Hoffman has nothing to do with it. Frankie Teardrop is right, Al was forced to retract his statement, but there was no deny by Capitol, Brian Wilson's management or other official persons. Alan Boyd and Mark Linett are working on it and said that they feel uncomfortable to give any more insight. So, see what you think, but what the heck....Steve Hoffman.....?

is there any word of what Al was hinting at in the article about them "redubbing" new vocals onto the tracks that have no vocals on them?

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

Steve Hoffman has nothing to do with it. Frankie Teardrop is right, Al was forced to retract his statement, but there was no deny by Capitol, Brian Wilson's management or other official persons. Alan Boyd and Mark Linett are working on it and said that they feel uncomfortable to give any more insight. So, see what you think, but what the heck....Steve Hoffman.....?

is there any word of what Al was hinting at in the article about them "redubbing" new vocals onto the tracks that have no vocals on them?

If they're gonna do that, I rather they leave the project unreleased.
We have Brian's version of Smile for revisionism.

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

Steve Hoffman has nothing to do with it. Frankie Teardrop is right, Al was forced to retract his statement, but there was no deny by Capitol, Brian Wilson's management or other official persons. Alan Boyd and Mark Linett are working on it and said that they feel uncomfortable to give any more insight. So, see what you think, but what the heck....Steve Hoffman.....?

Steve Hoffman is very well connected and clearly has inside knowledge of the inner-workings of Capitol. Perhaps you haven't heard of him. I'm not saying Frankie isn't right, but there are clearly various conflicting reports. Have you personally spoken with Boyd and Linett about their involvment? Did they pick up from where they left off years ago in the late-90's or did they start from scratch with their current work on the SMiLE tapes (the ones that still exist in the EMI vaults)? You seem pretty confident in your response, so perhaps you could shed some light on this topic? We all want it to happen.

According to posts by Steve Hoffman on his message board, a SMiLE release is not happening....

"No, it's not being released. But when it shows up on the Capitol/EMI quarterly release schedule, I'll start to get excited."

"As I said in this thread a million posts ago, this is not happening. You guys just like speculating, I understand that. But others really believed this was imminent and bombarded Capitol/EMI with calls, etc. The result? They clamped down on all rumors and made ol' All give another statement.

I'm sure Capitol/EMI would love to actually release this. The "problem" doesn't come from there, so they are not the bad dudes in this and don't be calling them up & bitching."

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6251874&postcount=765

Steve Hoffman has nothing to do with it. Frankie Teardrop is right, Al was forced to retract his statement, but there was no deny by Capitol, Brian Wilson's management or other official persons. Alan Boyd and Mark Linett are working on it and said that they feel uncomfortable to give any more insight. So, see what you think, but what the heck....Steve Hoffman.....?

Steve Hoffman is very well connected and clearly has inside knowledge of the inner-workings of Capitol. Perhaps you haven't heard of him. I'm not saying Frankie isn't right, but there are clearly various conflicting reports. Have you personally spoken with Boyd and Linett about their involvment? Did they pick up from where they left off years ago in the late-90's or did they start from scratch with their current work on the SMiLE tapes (the ones that still exist in the EMI vaults)? You seem pretty confident in your response, so perhaps you could shed some light on this topic? We all want it to happen.

I know who Hoffman is.
The guy who did the interview with Al is posting on the same BBs-messageboard as I am, as well as Alan Boyd, Mark Linett and other BB-insider. The editor of the Beach Boys fanmagazin Endless Sumemr Quarterly , who also posts there, even mentioned that Smle is bein worked on and, as I mentioned, that Boyd and Linett don't feel comfortable with saying more about that. As this is Beach Boys-world we don't know if we're getting anything until we hold it in our hands, but Hoffman's word on this is nothing you should trust very much. Better look on the SmileySmile-MessageBoard

Look at the cover of this new release and see if you think the font looks like the original Smile-font....
Could it be the start of a Smile campaign ? We'll have to wait and see....

More infos:
http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/beach-boys-good-vibrations-78rpm-double-vinyl-single-set

Looks like Al again is gonna be part of Mike's band for a special occasion:

http://blog.al.com/entertainment-press-register/2011/02/wharf_adds_beach_boys_def_lepp.html

Carl Wilson -- Here and Now, Billy Hinsche's documentary on Carl Wilson is now available for pre-ordering at www.billyhinsche.com.

"Brian" just posted this on his facebook-site:

Just finished the Disney CD. My kids are lovin it. Now I know what it must have felt like when I played "Be My Baby" 24/7. It's all about my kids!

"Brian" just posted this on his facebook-site:

Just finished the Disney CD. My kids are lovin it. Now I know what it must have felt like when I played "Be My Baby" 24/7. It's all about my kids!

sweet,can't wait to hear it..

It's as likely as a Beatles Reunion.

Tour wise No. But remember "free as a bird" ?. The wonders of technology anything is possible. Carl and Dennis may have left behind voice tapes that the guys can work with.

It's as likely as a Beatles Reunion.

Tour wise No. But remember "free as a bird" ?. The wonders of technology anything is possible. Carl and Dennis may have left behind voice tapes that the guys can work with.

There's a lot of stuff in the vaults. But that's just quantity. Don't know how many good recordings there are

WOW !

http://www.billboard.com/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d7a6878ea19e5a8%2C0#/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d7a6878ea19e5a8%2C0





It's an event that pop music fans have been waiting for since the Summer of Love: Capitol Records is planning to release the Beach Boys' great lost album, "Smile," later this year.



Two longtime Beach Boys associates -- engineer Mark Linett and archivist Alan Boyd -- are co-producing the release, which Capitol has titled "The Smile Sessions."



The project will be released in three versions: a two-CD set, an iTunes LP digital album and a limited-edition boxed set containing four CDs, two vinyl LPs, two vinyl singles and a 60-page hardbound book written by Beach Boys historian Domenic Priore.



"The Smile Sessions" is being released with the support of the band, including Beach Boys mastermind Brian Wilson. Wilson wasn't immediately available for an interview but he expressed his excitement about the release in a statement released through Capitol.



"I'm thrilled that the Beach Boys' original studio sessions for 'Smile' will be released for the first time, after all these years," Wilson said. "I'm looking forward to this collection of the original recordings and having fans hear the beautiful angelic voices of the boys in a proper studio release."




"The Smile Sessions" doesn't yet have a specific release date, with Capitol saying only that it will arrive later this year. That will inevitably spark skepticism among long-suffering fans who've had their hopes dashed before. When Warner Bros. Records signed the Beach Boys to a record deal in 1970, part of the label's interest in the group was rooted in its hopes of releasing "Smile." Linett, who has engineered Beach Boys reissues for more than two decades, recalls going through the "Smile" tapes as early as 1988. And in 1995, Capitol told Billboard that it was preparing to release a three-CD compilation tentatively titled "The Smile Era" for release in August of that year. But that set never saw the light of day.



"The major thing in the past, I don't think we had support from all the band, and now we do," says Bill Gagnon, GM/senior VP of catalog marketing at EMI Music North America. "All parties are supporting it coming out. Everybody is onboard now."



Also backing the project are the related rights-holders. Capitol owns "The Smile Sessions" master recordings, with publishing rights controlled by Universal Music Group's Rondor Music, the Beach Boys' own Brother Records and, depending on which tracks are included on the final release, Wilson himself.



Since "Smile" was never completed, what exactly will be issued? Linett says the goal is to present "the whole piece as close to as it was envisioned, or as is envisioned, as possible . . . and obviously with input from Brian and from everybody else."



Linett is a better judge than most, having recorded and mixed the critically acclaimed 2004 version of "Smile" that Wilson recorded with his road band for Nonesuch.



Although a track listing hasn't been finalized, Linett says he expects that an approximation of the original "Smile" album will occupy one CD or three sides of vinyl, with session outtakes and studio chatter occupying the rest of each version of the release.



"When you say 'album,' it presupposes everything was recorded and finished, and that's not the case," he says. "We have gaps where we are missing some vocal parts. But all the music was recorded, which is heartening." All of the vocals were recorded by the Beach Boys, usually at the same time around the same mic, including the lead vocal, Linett says. The music was mostly played by the Wrecking Crew, the legendary group of Los Angeles session musicians that played on numerous Beach Boys hits, although some "Smile" tracks feature Carl Wilson on guitar and Dennis Wilson on drums, Linett says.



Linett says Wilson's 2004 "Smile" album has served as a blueprint for the current project, which will be mixed in mono because that's how Wilson‹who's deaf in his right ear‹intended it. But Linett adds that other selections from the 30 hours of "Smile" session recordings will more than likely be issued in stereo.



"Some of these questions are hard to answer because not only haven't we assembled them yet, this has to be played for Brian and the other members of the group to see what kind of input they have," he says. "Just because Brian did it the way he did it in 2004 [doesn't mean] he won't say, 'Well, let's add "You're Welcome," ' which was the B-side on the 'Heroes and Villians' single."



"The main thing I am getting from everybody, after waiting 40 years to have it officially released, is, 'We want to make sure it is right,' " Linett says.



But is there any doubt surrounding the project this time around? "No," Gagnon says. "It's coming out."

And on Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... r-20110311

...but they're quoting the Billboard piece.

And on Rolling Stone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... r-20110311

...but they're quoting the Billboard piece.

And on Pitchfork :

http://pitchfork.com/news/41856-the-beach-boys-to-finally-release-ismilei-sessions/



BTW IMETJB, did you know that James Burton played on the original Smile-recording of "Cabinessence" ?