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Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:49 pm

Dan The Man, In the RCA New York vault tape
boxes of many artists were scattered all around.
Even on the floor. Thousands of them on shelves,
and in large boxes on the floor. Too many tapes
and too little space to place them. In Indy the huge
vault was rather neat and tidy, compared to the
vault in New York. The soundboards were all on
one shelf in chronological order by year. How many?
Maybe two hundred, but probably less.... ?
Upstairs in the RCA offices I could only find one
large scrapbook with mostly newspaper clippings
on Elvis from the early 70s. No big deal.
My guess is much had 'left' the offices thru the
years...? I didnt come across any documents.
They might have been stored elsewhere?
When Blondie and Guralnick compiled Day By
Day, all paperwork was supplied by The Estate,
coming from The Colonel's archives I guess ?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:55 am

Tallhair, that is very cool to read about your visits to RCA's vaults. Are you able to visit again if you wanted? Do you keep any contact with Ernst today?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:41 am

After 89/90, Ernst, Roger and I believe Erik Rasmussen
as well, went back to the vaults many, many times.
I was lucky to make it to New york based on my friend-
ship with Ernst & Erik. I combined the visit with meeting
up with Alfred Wertheimer to talk about doing a book
on his Elvis photographs....
Just about everything Elvis tapes was sorted out some-
time ago. There's no need to go back there.
Yes, Ernst and I talk regularly. Mostly about his Sun
project.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:31 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:After 89/90, Ernst, Roger and I believe Erik Rasmussen
as well, went back to the vaults many, many times.
I was lucky to make it to New york based on my friend-
ship with Ernst & Erik. I combined the visit with meeting
up with Alfred Wertheimer to talk about doing a book
on his Elvis photographs....
Just about everything Elvis tapes was sorted out some-
time ago. There's no need to go back there.
Yes, Ernst and I talk regularly. Mostly about his Sun
project.



Any news about the SUN project you want to (and can) share with us?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:25 am

Most of the writing has been done, and
the designer is working hard on the lay out
of the finished text to several/ many chapters.
The photographs Ive seen are amazing.
When Ernst and I 'talk' Sun, he tells me little
stories from fans who were at the shows
back then. Or I might help him out with some
info on certain photos. But not a whole lot.
He's the expert. Our friendship goes back
some 25 years, and I just enjoy the talks
we have on the times we would be
together doing research in The States...
Release date for the Sun project?
I honestly dont know. But its gonna be worth
the wait for sure !

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:58 am

Thanks Ger, any info on the SUN project is more than welcome, as is the project itself. :D

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:29 pm

Let's hope it is before I will be admitted to the old people's home.
:?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:34 pm

Ger...one more question that I was a bit curious regarding Ernst.

He, of course, has been deeply involved with Elvis for a long time....I often wonder if he has still retained his passion and energy for Elvis, simply as a fan? Does he still have that flair for Elvis or is it all business now? Does he still listen to Elvis for pleasure? Can he get excited about anything Elvis related anymore or is he pretty much numb to it all at this point?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:47 pm

Hi TALLHAIR 2
Thanks for the info, must have been like a kid, alone, in a candy store without arms!!!
Was that your first and only visit around the Mekka?
Best regards!
Dan the Man.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:32 am

IMETJB wrote:Ger...one more question that I was a bit curious regarding Ernst.

He, of course, has been deeply involved with Elvis for a long time....



Whoa!! Did Priscilla know?!?!? :shock:




smt198


Well, there go my chances of Ernst ever sending me a copy of the July 31, 1969 soundboard for my review.... :D

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:56 am

the passion for Elvis' music is still very much
part of Ernst's life. The nights we would listen
to studio tapes still thrilled him as much as it
thrilled me. Though it's been a while since we
both passed out on Danish snaps after a mara-
thon night of playing the King's music....
imetjb, Yes, NY in 89 and Indy in 70 was my
only involvement in diggin' thru the RCA vaults.
I aint complaining.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:39 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:
IMETJB wrote:Ger...one more question that I was a bit curious regarding Ernst.

He, of course, has been deeply involved with Elvis for a long time....



Whoa!! Did Priscilla know?!?!? :shock:
:D


Of course! She took the polaroids!

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:39 am

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:the passion for Elvis' music is still very much
part of Ernst's life. The nights we would listen
to studio tapes still thrilled him as much as it
thrilled me. Though it's been a while since we
both passed out on Danish snaps after a mara-
thon night of playing the King's music....
imetjb, Yes, NY in 89 and Indy in 70 was my
only involvement in diggin' thru the RCA vaults.
I aint complaining.


Real good to know, Ger. Thanks. I was worried that perhaps Ernst had become burnt out on Elvis and it became more of a job than love these days. Good to hear that he' can get just as excited about it as we do here.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:17 pm

Hi there!! :D :D :D.

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:the passion for Elvis' music is still very much
part of Ernst's life. The nights we would listen
to studio tapes still thrilled him as much as it
thrilled me. Though it's been a while since we
both passed out on Danish snaps after a mara-
thon night of playing the King's music....
imetjb, Yes, NY in 89 and Indy in 70 was my
only involvement in diggin' thru the RCA vaults.
I aint complaining.


Gerr, if I am not wrong you were involved in Essential Elvis Vol 2, one of my favourite RCA/BMG cd releases. On the nights you spent with Ernst Jorgensen listening to all those old RCA studio tapes 8). Do you happen to remember if the material that were included in the old bootleg cd releases of Stereo ´57 Vol 1 and 2, which included the January 13th and 19th, 1957 recording sessions, (that were not in the best audio quality), were also in the RCA vaults? :roll: . Thank you. Bye for now :smt006.


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Mike Windgren.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:17 am

A long time ago, I wrote to Joan Deary to offer my indispensable services as an Elvis scholar <snip> -- with regard to sorting out Elvis' recordings and the like. Actually, I barely remember the conversation, but she did reply. As it turns out, that Ernst character got MY JOB, dammit. Which is okay, I guess, 'cos the truth is that he knew way more about Elvis' recordings even before he started entering vaults like some Danish Geraldo Rivera, in search of treasures. I did, however, have his book at my disposal, so I wouldn't have been totally clueless... :D

Still, pulling an Indiana Jones in some vault filled with old tapes and so on does appeal to my investigative instincts, as long as I don't do something that'd trigger the potentially fatal booby trap that involves Lamar Fike rolling down a tunnel behind me...

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:00 pm

Mike, you're talking the binaural tapes, right?
No, they were in the posession of Bones Howe.
Ernst and I met in LA sometime around 86, if
memory serves me well? Ernst was there to have
talks with Thorne Nogar and Bones. I was in
LA to pick up photographs from Lioyd Shearer
for my upcoming Memphis Lonesome book.
We got together in the hotel I was staying that
week, and Ernst asked me if I wanted to join him
the next day to meet Bones. While in Bones'
office, Ernst did all the talking with regards to the
binau tapes. After 30 minutes the 3 of us went
outside to the parking lot. Bones opened the
trunk of his car, removed several blankets, and
pulled out the original 1957 tape boxes, looking
like brandnew ! Bones and Ernst talked some
more inside the office, and then we left... very
excited! The deal between Bones and RCA
was done a little later, and tapes were shipped
to Roger in London.
That's what I remember... and the night Ernst
and I went to a nudie club in Hollywood to set
our minds on other 'boxes' ... heh heh...

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:15 pm

Hi Gerr :D :D :D.

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:Mike, you're talking the binaural tapes, right?
No, they were in the posession of Bones Howe.
Ernst and I met in LA sometime around 86, if
memory serves me well? Ernst was there to have
talks with Thorne Nogar and Bones. I was in
LA to pick up photographs from Lioyd Shearer
for my upcoming Memphis Lonesome book.
We got together in the hotel I was staying that
week, and Ernst asked me if I wanted to join him
the next day to meet Bones. While in Bones'
office, Ernst did all the talking with regards to the
binau tapes. After 30 minutes the 3 of us went
outside to the parking lot. Bones opened the
trunk of his car, removed several blankets, and
pulled out the original 1957 tape boxes, looking
like brandnew ! Bones and Ernst talked some
more inside the office, and then we left... very
excited! The deal between Bones and RCA
was done a little later, and tapes were shipped
to Roger in London.
That's what I remember... and the night Ernst
and I went to a nudie club in Hollywood to set
our minds on other 'boxes' ... heh heh...


Yes, I was asking about the binaural tapes. Thank you maestro for the explanation. Well I am sure those moments must have been really, really exciting 8). I understand that you don´t know if these complete January 1957 binaural tapes exist in the RCA vaults. But I am sure you have listen to these two old binaural bootleg cds :wink:. Do you know if they exist outside RCA vaults in better quality?. Bye for now :smt006.

Mike Windgren.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:00 am

Mike, I don't know everything.
The binaus survived at Radio Recorders Studios
because Bones saved them. That's all I know.
I dont believe other copies of the original complete
sessions have survived?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:59 pm

Ger, in light of your archaeological excursions with Ernst in RCA's vaults, what kind of condition were the tapes in, at least those that you saw? Were they just on reels inside boxes, perhaps held fast with a rubber band or something, or were they better protected? I'm under the impression that magnetic tape fares much better than old film stock (unless, as I discovered to my chagrin when all my videotapes and cassettes, including the Elvis audience-recorded stuff, got grown over my a white coating of mold when I lived in the tropics...presumably not an issue inside a vault) but I would be surprised if the people at RCA actually cared much about the session tapes once the master was cut.

Cool stories!

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:17 am

Hi Gerr!! :D :D :D.

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:Mike, I don't know everything.
The binaus survived at Radio Recorders Studios
because Bones saved them. That's all I know.
I dont believe other copies of the original complete
sessions have survived?


Thank you anyway for trying to explain the situation on these binaural tapes :wink:. Maybe the old Stereo 57 bootleg cds are third or fourth generation of the master tapes :cry:. I can´t wait to listen to these complete ´57 sessions 8). Bye for now :smt006.

Mike Windgren.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:27 pm

Luuk wrote:Let's hope it is before I will be admitted to the old people's home.:?


And I'll have already claimed the bed by the window !

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:37 am

mr Montoya, most tapes Ive seen were in excellent
condition. Many of the old/original boxes had been
replaced for new ones though... Sometimes the
original session info was cut from the old tapeboxes
and pasted on either the front or back of the 'new'
replacements.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:47 pm

Thanks!

If I ever figure out the combination to the vault, I'm going in to find the lost '71 Dylan jams...surely they're overlooked, misfiled in some Slim Whitman tape box... :D