In this section you can submit questions to people that knew Elvis, or to other important people in the Elvis World.

Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Mon May 18, 2009 10:08 pm

Hi Sandi,
Just a quick question from me.. Did Elvis ever give the appearance to you or comment that he was aware of the bootlegs that were around back in the 70's of his various recordings?? Or did he ever mention anything about seeing fans at concerts recording the shows??

I know the above is a long shot, but I had to ask :P

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue May 19, 2009 8:16 pm

fecc-mechanic wrote:Hi Sandi,
Just a quick question from me.. Did Elvis ever give the appearance to you or comment that he was aware of the bootlegs that were around back in the 70's of his various recordings?? Or did he ever mention anything about seeing fans at concerts recording the shows??

I know the above is a long shot, but I had to ask :P


**I don't think I ever even heard the word bootleg until after Elvis' death and I don't recall him ever mentioning them --- however he was very aware that we taped his Vegas shows because
for one, we told him, and on a few occasions we actually brought our recorder up to the suite and we'd listen to them. They were horrible- you could hear the dishes and the silverware clanging and people talking and somewhere in the background you could hear Elvis singing. It was pretty pathetic. He made it a point to tell us we weren't allowed to do that - then he'd laugh his head off and say "don't get caught or I'll have to bail you out of the iron cage" He sure didn't seem to care about that, or everyone taking photos.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Tue May 19, 2009 10:36 pm

Hi Sandi

On many many occasions, the sound-guy working the desk at the shows recorded the shows from there. Many official cd's and bootlegs feature these soundboard shows now as I'm sure you know. Did Elvis listen to these ever in your company? And if so, how did he generally feel about them?

Thanks!

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed May 20, 2009 8:09 pm

Swingin-Little-Guitar-Man wrote:Hi Sandi

On many many occasions, the sound-guy working the desk at the shows recorded the shows from there. Many official cd's and bootlegs feature these soundboard shows now as I'm sure you know. Did Elvis listen to these ever in your company? And if so, how did he generally feel about them?

Thanks!


**He never listened to them while I was around - the only thing I remember him commenting about was the trailers for the two documentaries that he viewed before all the editing. .

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed May 20, 2009 10:09 pm

Cool. Can you recall how he felt the trailers portrayed him? Was he happy with them or, like most of us, picking out all the faults that no one else would notice.

Thanks for the swift reply :)

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Wed May 20, 2009 10:51 pm

I'm curious about that too. Did he have any comments about it and if so, did he do anything with these comments like calling the person that was responsible and ask him to make some changes. So how much involved was Elvis in that part of the documentaries?

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu May 21, 2009 3:51 am

Bootlegs weren't as prevalent in the early 1970s as they are since Elvis died. Given his general isolation, it's doubtful he ever saw one, or knew what it was if he did.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Thu May 21, 2009 3:57 am

Thanks Sandi, and all for your responses. Very Interesting :)

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 8:33 am

Wrong, John.
In 71, while on stage in Vegas a Dutchman ( ofcourse)
handed him a copy of Dutch made ( ofcourse) boot.
Elvis looked at it, and asked what it was. The Dutchman
explained, Elvis looked at it again and threw it, still
puzzled, in the direction of the band behind him.
Not long after ( a year I guess) Parker sent out news
letters to fans and fanclubs worldwide warning them
for these 'pirate' releases....
My copy is framed and hanging on the wall in my
office.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 9:46 am

I think I've read a post on FECC before that said someone asked Elvis to sign a LP cover that Elvis didn't recognise. This was at the gates of Graceland. Maybe that was a Bootleg. He refused to sign it I think.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 10:10 am

Lee Cotten is not the best source on things always, but he said in Jailhouse Rock that Elvis didn't mind them and thought some were interesting.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 12:15 pm

Little Darlin wrote:I think I've read a post on FECC before that said someone asked Elvis to sign a LP cover that Elvis didn't recognise. This was at the gates of Graceland. Maybe that was a Bootleg. He refused to sign it I think.


I don't think Elvis was that much involved that he would recognise all albums that were released at first sight.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 2:13 pm

Monique wrote:
Little Darlin wrote:I think I've read a post on FECC before that said someone asked Elvis to sign a LP cover that Elvis didn't recognise. This was at the gates of Graceland. Maybe that was a Bootleg. He refused to sign it I think.


I don't think Elvis was that much involved that he would recognise all albums that were released at first sight.


I'm pretty sure Elvis knew the Album cover wasn't kosher -- that was why he refused to sign it. Maybe the original poster of the story will see this and find the post I'm talking about.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 3:02 pm

one of those wunderbar bull stories that never
happened. Elvis had no clue how many different
album, ep and single covers were doing the
rounds in those days. And he didnt have a clue when
a fan in Vegas handed him the Sun album from
the UK. Simply because it had a different cover
to the US release. This old man was around
in those days. He knows. Elvis would have never
turned down a request to sign a record sleeve,
magazine, or whatever handed to him by fans.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 3:13 pm

Wrong, John.
In 71, while on stage in Vegas a Dutchman ( ofcourse)
handed him a copy of Dutch made ( ofcourse) boot.
Elvis looked at it, and asked what it was. The Dutchman
explained, Elvis looked at it again and threw it, still
puzzled, in the direction of the band behind him.
Not long after ( a year I guess) Parker sent out news
letters to fans and fanclubs worldwide warning them
for these 'pirate' releases....
My copy is framed and hanging on the wall in my
office.


Off course, Mr. Tallhair, that person was Mr. Hans Langbroek, of "The Hillbilly Cat" fame. A man with a lot of interesting stories.

Best regards,
Frank R.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 3:14 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:...This old man was around
in those days. He knows. Elvis would have never
turned down a request to sign a record sleeve,
magazine, or whatever handed to him by fans.


We are lucky to have some members here who were 'around in those days', aren't we ?

Certainly helps to put keep the 'I'm-well-read-so-trust-me' so-called experts in their place.................

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 3:21 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:one of those wunderbar bull stories that never
happened. Elvis had no clue how many different
album, ep and single covers were doing the
rounds in those days. And he didnt have a clue when
a fan in Vegas handed him the Sun album from
the UK. Simply because it had a different cover
to the US release
.


Not quite; the Sun Sessions album hadn't even been released in the US at the time he was given the UK copy! (UK: 1975/US: 1976).

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Fri May 22, 2009 3:48 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:one of those wunderbar bull stories that never
happened. Elvis had no clue how many different
album, ep and single covers were doing the
rounds in those days. And he didnt have a clue when
a fan in Vegas handed him the Sun album from
the UK. Simply because it had a different cover
to the US release. This old man was around
in those days. He knows. Elvis would have never
turned down a request to sign a record sleeve,
magazine, or whatever handed to him by fans.


That'll teach me not to believe everything I read.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 3:07 am

Frank R. wrote:
TALLHAIR 2 wrote:Wrong, John. In 71, while on stage in Vegas a Dutchman (of course) handed him a copy of Dutch made ( ofcourse) boot. Elvis looked at it, and asked what it was. The Dutchman explained, Elvis looked at it again and threw it, still puzzled, in the direction of the band behind him. Not long after ( a year I guess) Parker sent out news letters to fans and fanclubs worldwide warning them for these 'pirate' releases.... My copy is framed and hanging on the wall in my office.

Off course, Mr. Tallhair, that person was Mr. Hans Langbroek, of "The Hillbilly Cat" fame. A man with a lot of interesting stories.



Hav-A-Tampa wrote:
TALLHAIR 2 wrote:one of those wunderbar bull stories that never happened. Elvis had no clue how many different album, ep and single covers were doing the rounds in those days. And he didnt have a clue when a fan in Vegas handed him the Sun album from the UK. Simply because it had a different cover to the US release.

Not quite; the Sun Sessions album hadn't even been released in the US at the time he was given the UK copy! (UK: 1975/US: 1976).


Thanks Frank R. and Hav-A-Tampa.

It seems some people need to get their facts straight-- as I always try to do -- before pontificating on this forum.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 7:08 am

Yes, it was indeed Hans Langbroek who handed
Elvis the boot in Vegas. I wrote Dutchman, didnt I ?!
No need to imply I meant somebody else but Hans.
Okay, I stand corrected on the Sun album issue.
The fact remains the same : Elvis, and most of his
fans at the time, had NO clue what was available
worldwide on the RCA label in those days.
I did live thru those times,
and learned the facts first hand. And yes, I do
make mistakes now and then... but at least I admit
them.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 8:09 am

Frank R, you probably read about the Hans
Langbroek handed Elvis a bootleg story either
here on fecc years ago when boots were
discussed at large, or in the Dutch fanclub
mag It's Elvis Time, ages ago? It's not a well
known story, and I cant remember reading
it in Hans his booklet The Hillbilly Cat...?
Neither do I know if your comment was a sneer
at me... or just a comment...?
Fact remains, Hans told me his 1971 Vegas
adventures a few years after the incident
took place, and added not being impressed
by the show that night. He skipped the
oppertunity to see Elvis again the next
night, together with his mate Adri Sturm.
Instead they went to see Jerry Lee and
his sister Linda Gail, appearing elsewhere
in Vegas that time.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 1:35 pm

Hello Ger,

Sorry, I never had the intention to put you in a bad light or something with my comment. My apologies. Now reading it back to how I wrote it I can understand your reaction.

About Vegas:
Hans told the story personally to me. I know Hans for quite sometime. We share the same love for Presley, Holly en Jerry Lee and we have been collegues for more than 20 years. Sadly I lost contact a few years ago with Hans. Years ago I talked to him about him sharing his stories on this board, but the severe health problems of his wife and himself prevented that. I don't know how he is doing at the moment but perhaps it is time to try to get in touch with him and maybe he is able and willing to share his stories with us. As so many other people, from the time that Presley really lived, do on this board.

Best regards,
Frank R.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 1:45 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:one of those wunderbar bull stories that never
happened. Elvis had no clue how many different
album, ep and single covers were doing the
rounds in those days. And he didnt have a clue when
a fan in Vegas handed him the Sun album from
the UK. Simply because it had a different cover
to the US release. This old man was around
in those days. He knows. Elvis would have never
turned down a request to sign
a record sleeve,
magazine, or whatever handed to him by fans.


It was just my guess. I'm glad you're here to confirm it. :D

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sat May 23, 2009 5:07 pm

thanks Frank. Wasnt too sure what to make of
your remark? It's common knowledge among
people on fecc I didnt make it to Vegas until 1975.
The "ofcourse" mention used by me on "Dutchman" and
"boot" was just poking a little fun... After all it was the
Dutch who way back, did most of the research on
Elvis' early years, plus we released the first boots in
the early 70s. Hans being one of them. His line
drawing of Elvis is seen on the cover of the Please
Release Me boot... How do you like those facts, John?
I have lost contact with Hans as well... I know his wife
Riny was always in bad shape. Sad to hear Hans
isnt doing too great either... Hope he hangs in there
for a while longer. Many first generation fans from
those early groundbreaking years are no longer
with us.

Re: Sandi: Elvis and bootlegs?

Sun May 24, 2009 1:07 am

Holland is THE place for bootlegs - always has been. I used to delight at that little "made in holland" blurb on records in the early 80s when I used to attend record fairs!! I remember the joy of seeing all those superb titles that looked so muchbetter than the regular albums!