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slaterus wrote:To the person in San Mateo, California who can't locate a Walmart...try Mountain View, California...about 20 minutes South on Highway 101. They had plenty copies of Viva Las Vegas on the shelves when I bought my copy on the weekend.
Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:18 pm
YDKM wrote:I',m convinced now its the 21.8.69 D/S (containing the previously released tracks from collectors gold + the legend lives) on which were incorrectly dated and it also contains some "edits"
Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:27 pm
Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:32 pm
YDKM wrote::lol: Hi Vince...well i'll tell you 2 things for now:-
1.dialogue b4 hound dog MUST be edited-as was it EVER that short???
2.surrender is b4 Runaway.
Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:16 pm
Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:24 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:thenexte wrote:So is Target any better than Walmart? To be honest I don't quite see a difference...
Target's TV commercials are superb, WAY better than Wal-Mart's.
Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:46 pm
Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:55 am
Vince wrote:EDIT NOTE : the 45 minutes mark is right after "AYLT ?". But if the gig is taken from a multitrack, the explanation of a tape flip that may have missed part of "Words" can't be used there.
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YDKM wrote:hey don't treat those track-listings 'given' for both shows ion 21st Aug 69 as 'gospel' if they wern't correct that in itself would explain the differences!
Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:55 am
KiwiAlan wrote:those people who claim to ring him up...have you asked>>
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jekhb76 wrote:On the elvis site: http://www.elvisconcerts.com words is not listed as being performed.
ALWAYS ELVIS ON MY MIND
Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:47 am
This is a time when EJ could easily be a bit more forthcoming....those people who claim to ring him up...have you asked>>
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very interesting infos about the methods of recording that were used.
As for many other bands, i think that it is doubtful that :
- Pachuki taped gig after gig on a series of tapes. I think that RCA had enough money to have as many fresh new tapes for each show.
- Pachuki had "lost" some songs after the first rehearsals/gigs. This is possible that rehearsals and soundchecks are partial, even one or two gigs, but after the whole series of gigs will have been taped complete.
Many bands in the 60's were using two recorders to be sure to capture the whole gig. It is plausible that RCA used that method.
The fact that Elvis was not doing "real" encores (monologues and solos were good dead airs during the shows for Elvis) was probably a problem due to the various lengths of the gigs (from 45 to more than 90 minutes). But RCA were probably real professionals, and planned that.
About the 45 minutes tape flip, the audio cassette was already in use, and it is unfortunately (like the 30 minutes tape flip) the main drawback with most of the Elvis recordings (both audience and copies of soundboards done on audio tapes). The best example is the "One Night Only !" soundboard, that was cutting two songs at the 30 minutes tape flip (or Reel To Reel tape flip ? but this is strange that the cut is at 29-30 minutes, and not 32-33 minutes), but was recently completed by an audience tape... that also was cut at the 45 minutes tape flip...
For some bands, like Led Zeppelin for example, it is impossible to complete some gigs even if there are more than 3 different audience tapes (all cutting at the same moment...).
At least, Ernst can help us with that gig...
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