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Just read the interview on the EIN, and will say this.
The Elvis World, never fails to amaze me.
The Elvis World, never fails to amaze me.
Mentioning the interview isn't the problem, some things said in the interview are not allowed to be posted on this board for various reasons pertaining to how the guidlines are set up here.
It's a tough challenge not to mention or go after anyone on this board No matter who they are, most everyone in life I'm sure has a skelton or two in their own closet so to speak.
If anything I was more interested in knowing about how quality is improved or maintained in the interview, an for that reason alone I thought it was interesting reading .
Reading about what could be forth coming was of interest as well, not to say too much was said about that tho at this point.
Bottom line its Elvis information that I personally am more interested in reading about, than trying to point fingers.....yet I understand how One wants to be able to defend themselves too.
As far as the product goes, the product speaks for its self, and I for One have enjoyed every project MRS has come out with thus far.
Politics a side, its the forth coming information as to what could follow that is of more interest to me than to debate about who is honest, who is doing this an who is doing whatever.
An yes the Elvis world is a interesting One that's for sure.....
PEP
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Wow Everyone who visits this forum should read the interview with Joseph Pirzada:
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/interview_pirzada.html
Fascinating. And this is only part one...
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/interview_pirzada.html
Fascinating. And this is only part one...
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I read the interview and he makes alot of sense.
All thru the years RCA showed disinterest in the legacy of ELvis and his priceless recordings, by not keeping them safe, losing them, erasing them, and so forth.
Now they seem to be backpeddling and trying to somehow show that they have the best product out there. It is true most of the time, but evidence has shown us that its not true all the time.
It seems that alot of great stuff is in the hands of private collectors and BMG or EPE is too cheap to buy this stuff.
Given that, I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel concerning any kind of Anthology DVD set. It doesn't seem like they are trying to gather the material needed for such a project.
With ELvis recordings splittered out all over the place, its hard for any one company to succeed both financially and artistically.
Also, if rare Elvis material is very expensive to buy, and once its released, it loses most of the value, doesn't it seem logical that some of the collectors are paying too much for the material in the first place.
I mean, if you can't recoup your investment, then you alone will be the only one enjoying the footage or tape.
All thru the years RCA showed disinterest in the legacy of ELvis and his priceless recordings, by not keeping them safe, losing them, erasing them, and so forth.
Now they seem to be backpeddling and trying to somehow show that they have the best product out there. It is true most of the time, but evidence has shown us that its not true all the time.
It seems that alot of great stuff is in the hands of private collectors and BMG or EPE is too cheap to buy this stuff.
Given that, I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel concerning any kind of Anthology DVD set. It doesn't seem like they are trying to gather the material needed for such a project.
With ELvis recordings splittered out all over the place, its hard for any one company to succeed both financially and artistically.
Also, if rare Elvis material is very expensive to buy, and once its released, it loses most of the value, doesn't it seem logical that some of the collectors are paying too much for the material in the first place.
I mean, if you can't recoup your investment, then you alone will be the only one enjoying the footage or tape.
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RE--Rare rare Elvis recordings, if they do actually exist, would it not be a fact that they came from the RCA Vaults, and in fact belong to RCA, but somehow disappeared, perhaps they were borrowed, and for some odd reason, were never returned, anyway if someone has professionally recorded material of Elvis that Sony/BMG do not have, it would certainly be a surprise, would it not??????
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Barry quote: RE--Rare rare Elvis recordings, if they do actually exist, would it not be a fact that they came from the RCA Vaults, and in fact belong to RCA, but somehow disappeared, perhaps they were borrowed, and for some odd reason, were never returned, anyway if someone has professionally recorded material of Elvis that Sony/BMG do not have, it would certainly be a surprise, would it not??????
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Barry it would depend on what tapes you are talking about.
Live Radio recordings from the 50's are in a different catagory than say 70's studio work.
And if there are suprises, it would again depend on what what released.
If "rock around the clock" came out, no surprise, since this has been said to exist for years. Back when "hearts of stone" was released, I had never heard that title as being unreleased before, so it came as a surprise to me.
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Barry it would depend on what tapes you are talking about.
Live Radio recordings from the 50's are in a different catagory than say 70's studio work.
And if there are suprises, it would again depend on what what released.
If "rock around the clock" came out, no surprise, since this has been said to exist for years. Back when "hearts of stone" was released, I had never heard that title as being unreleased before, so it came as a surprise to me.
ekenee wrote:I read the interview and he makes alot of sense.
All thru the years RCA showed disinterest in the legacy of ELvis and his priceless recordings, by not keeping them safe, losing them, erasing them, and so forth.
Agreed
Now they seem to be backpeddling and trying to somehow show that they have the best product out there. It is true most of the time, but evidence has shown us that its not true all the time.
ekenee, could you give some examples of when its not true?I'm curious...I'm also curious to know when it is true...to help understand the difference..
It seems that alot of great stuff is in the hands of private collectors and BMG or EPE is too cheap to buy this stuff.
This I'm sure is true and not true at the same time...meaning there are collectors out there who may have what they have and believe what they have is worth zillions while on the other hand there may be some collectors who do not realize what they have an are not approached or may not think of contacting anyone or there is the collector who still just wants it for their collection only, some out there might also Not want to have any contact with RCA/BMG/SONY at all for various reasons....it can go on an on.....
Given that, I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel concerning any kind of Anthology DVD set. It doesn't seem like they are trying to gather the material needed for such a project.
I'm assuming you are now talking about the DVD Anthology, if you are, you could be right, there will be pieces missing in the puzzle, I do get the feeling they will not go the extra mile like the Beatles organization did for their Anthology.
With ELvis recordings splittered out all over the place, its hard for any one company to succeed both financially and artistically.
Some would have to suck it up, for it to work, the arrogant's at times of the top dogs sometimes does show through, meaning EPE or BMG, as they feel it's always in their control and should be at all times, this would mean financially and the politics behind the scenes not of the people in the forefront....like Ernst or Roger, as I'm sure they are people just like You and I .....fans first...It's the others behind the scenes who pull the strings who do not understand nor care as its about the bottom line which is also understandable.
Also, if rare Elvis material is very expensive to buy, and once its released, it loses most of the value, doesn't it seem logical that some of the collectors are paying too much for the material in the first place.
I mean, if you can't recoup your investment, then you alone will be the only one enjoying the footage or tape.
The reality is, there are collectors who do not look at it this way, meaning they do only want it for their collections and their collections alone, some will spent thousands hoping No one will have access, when it comes to film or pictures once leaked the value does plummet very quickly for the original item very quickly....so this type of collection is heavily guarded as with original Elvis items like clothing or jewelry they only have one origin and one original in mostly cases, which can be a more secure investment.
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It's rare to see somebody so vehemently ripping into people that are on the payroll of Elvis' record company, just in an effort to push their own product, which doesn't really differ that much from what's been released officially (referring to the SUN recordings).Barry wrote:Just read the interview on the EIN, and will say this.
The Elvis World, never fails to amaze me.
Besides, with this stuff in the public domain now, what makes them think somebody else can't come along and offer something even better sounding? I also fail to see how the choice to release the audio on a DVD should attract new buyers, nobody listens to music this way!
They are obviously a niche player trying to drum up some business by attacking the bigwigs in the Elvis world, how classy is that?
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Pep, I really don't want to name the releases that don't match the sound to the boot counter part, only because it is subjective and some won't agree.
Well, ok, some that are easy to tell would be the Pittsburgh show 76,
the Little rock 1956 show, and several others that I don't keep a list of, but they are out there and to my ears the BMG release is inferior, just as Mr. pirzhada states.
I know these are not mainstream type things, but that is the point he made in the interview, that certain odds and ends that BMG does not have in first generation.
I find it all very interesting.
Well, ok, some that are easy to tell would be the Pittsburgh show 76,
the Little rock 1956 show, and several others that I don't keep a list of, but they are out there and to my ears the BMG release is inferior, just as Mr. pirzhada states.
I know these are not mainstream type things, but that is the point he made in the interview, that certain odds and ends that BMG does not have in first generation.
I find it all very interesting.
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I truly feel for PEP who must be having a tough time moderating this board over comments made about J Pirzada's interview.
Joseph has a lot to say and that fact that I had a chance to glimpse his Tupelo project before completion opened my eyes to his true enthusiasm about releasing great Elvis product to the general public.
JP has so much more in his collection. . . and then he goes and tells me what he has seen at Sherif Hanna's house! Oh man, and I'm stuck in Sydney!
Anyway this was during the time of all the negativity about JP's MRS projects on this MB.
I think Joseph's long interview answers must go a fair way in explaining why he should have been given a fairer go at the time by some people who showed particular bias against his work.
JP is very forthright in what he believes - and calls a spade a spade!
Even I am somewhat shocked to see his answers in black&white on EIN, yet Nigel & I both did the interview!
The Elvis World is a fascinating and amazingly political place indeed,
Cheers
Piers
Joseph has a lot to say and that fact that I had a chance to glimpse his Tupelo project before completion opened my eyes to his true enthusiasm about releasing great Elvis product to the general public.
JP has so much more in his collection. . . and then he goes and tells me what he has seen at Sherif Hanna's house! Oh man, and I'm stuck in Sydney!
Anyway this was during the time of all the negativity about JP's MRS projects on this MB.
I think Joseph's long interview answers must go a fair way in explaining why he should have been given a fairer go at the time by some people who showed particular bias against his work.
JP is very forthright in what he believes - and calls a spade a spade!
Even I am somewhat shocked to see his answers in black&white on EIN, yet Nigel & I both did the interview!
The Elvis World is a fascinating and amazingly political place indeed,
Cheers
Piers
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One P----D Off Elvis Fan
I am 43 years of age and been collecting elvis music for 30 years or so. I have never been a member of any FAN CLUB or GROUP or never will, I just enjoy listening to the music or reading QUALITY PUBLICATIONS (ETMHM-MRS-FTD). Just spending hard earned money on these as well as BMG puts severe strain on my family as i have to explain Elvis is not more important to me than they are. I am not in the position financially to pay top dollars for something that may or may not be worth the money Sherif Hanna or others paid for his private collection , but when i read of what people may have or may not have really P---s me off because how can they call themselves ELVIS FANS if all they want to do is gain money from what they have. I don't call myself an elvis fan or collector but i know that if i had the oppertunity to distribute more Elvis Unheard music or Unseen footage i would, not for gain but just for the enjoyment it would give other people. As regards this sound is better than that sound or this is mixed better than that surely it's down to the individual, as for me I find very little diference if any at all between Kevan Budds Elvis At Sun or Joseph Pirzada's MRS apart from obviosly That's All Right (DRY) in sound quality. So just keep em coming Earnst and keep em coming Joe and i'll just keep telling my family "Yes it is different to what I already and yes it is essential I buy it now" hopefully for the next 40 years or so......
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You bring up a couple of good points Mike!Mike S wrote:Indeed.John from Woodley wrote: It's fascinating, but difficult to have any input really as the information regarding what's in the collectors' hands is pretty vague and open to conjecture.
However, his comments about certain people is eye opening...and may come as a surprise to some on here.
As others have said EIN have provided MRS with a great platform to promote their product, but ludicrous comments referring to Kevan Budd's work as an "arguable mess" reveal an unpleasant attitude as well as showing that his views and claims are very much open to question.
EIN themselves must be aware of this and yet chose not to challenge or edit these comments, which directly contradict their own published thoughts on this matter. Here is a direct quote from Piers' review of the FTD title Loving You:Funny how this wasn't thought worthy of mention isn't it?The real positive is that the audio restoration has been done by Kevan Budd...which guarantees a perfect sounding disc.
Although EIN are an excellent site, by publishing these accusations without proper discussion they have simply served to collude with the author of these remarks in unfairly denigrating the work of others, which destroys credibility as well as goodwill and detracts from the merits of this particular interview.
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A few points that EIN should make here.
We are an ELVIS INFORMATION NETWORK.
We do not edit interviews and we also present interviews from every side of the Elvis spectrum .
Some interviews we have published - ie Billy Miller's, I personally think is a load of made-up baloney.
However some fans think otherwise and we stand by our hopefully unbiased approach.
Yes I do think ERNST does FANTASTIC work.
Fer' christ's sake I even gave 'Paradise Hawaiian Style' a great review!
(Stupid fluffy CD but a hoot if you are in the right mood - and boy have I always hated the film & original album! You can't get more unbiased than that)
Yes I believe that Kevan Budd's audio work is sensational as you know from my reviews, but that doesn't mean that EIN cannot present someone else's opinion - and heaven forbid I edit an interview!
EIN has previously run a plethora of Ernst interviews, as well as one's by Kevan Budd himself.
I think it only fair that J Pirzada is allowed to have his say for once.
Mike, you say that
I think we all know that there has been more that enough cases of "unfair bias" against JP already on this very MB and that has obviously made him angry since he has never had a chance to answer them for himself.
Personally I am happy to argue with JP the merits of his audio vs Kevan Budd's work. And to be honest I am a "CD" person over an "Audio DVD" person most of the time.
However JP still has produced material that has been never released by BMG. That is pretty amazing no matter what the quality.
And then out of nowhere we get a near complete ELVIS fifties concert - I think we all know that JP can deliver the goods and as a "collector" is willing to spend a lot of money to share his rare Elvis finds with the fans.
Mike also said
I could publish a long interview about Joseph Pirzada and his last summer holiday but it wouldn't make very interesting reading on an Elvis website.
Cheers
Piers
We are an ELVIS INFORMATION NETWORK.
We do not edit interviews and we also present interviews from every side of the Elvis spectrum .
Some interviews we have published - ie Billy Miller's, I personally think is a load of made-up baloney.
However some fans think otherwise and we stand by our hopefully unbiased approach.
Yes I do think ERNST does FANTASTIC work.
Fer' christ's sake I even gave 'Paradise Hawaiian Style' a great review!
(Stupid fluffy CD but a hoot if you are in the right mood - and boy have I always hated the film & original album! You can't get more unbiased than that)
Yes I believe that Kevan Budd's audio work is sensational as you know from my reviews, but that doesn't mean that EIN cannot present someone else's opinion - and heaven forbid I edit an interview!
EIN has previously run a plethora of Ernst interviews, as well as one's by Kevan Budd himself.
I think it only fair that J Pirzada is allowed to have his say for once.
Mike, you say that
However whenever JP's earlier work was mentioned on this message board it was slammed down unfairly by various "well-known posters" and more often than not the thread would be deleted."these accusations without proper discussion they have simply served to collude with the author of these remarks in unfairly denigrating the work of others, which destroys credibility as well as goodwill and detracts from the merits of this particular interview. I have made the point that the interview is guilty of unfair bias"
I think we all know that there has been more that enough cases of "unfair bias" against JP already on this very MB and that has obviously made him angry since he has never had a chance to answer them for himself.
Personally I am happy to argue with JP the merits of his audio vs Kevan Budd's work. And to be honest I am a "CD" person over an "Audio DVD" person most of the time.
However JP still has produced material that has been never released by BMG. That is pretty amazing no matter what the quality.
And then out of nowhere we get a near complete ELVIS fifties concert - I think we all know that JP can deliver the goods and as a "collector" is willing to spend a lot of money to share his rare Elvis finds with the fans.
Mike also said
That also seems a little unfair as almost every interview EIN does is usually linked some Elvis product. ie the Kevan Budd interview to 'Loving You' or 'Million Dollar Quartet', Ken Sharps' to 'Writing For The King' or Ernst about his Sun project.As I have said previously, in my view this detracts from this interview which seems to mainly serve as a promotion for MRS products.
I could publish a long interview about Joseph Pirzada and his last summer holiday but it wouldn't make very interesting reading on an Elvis website.
Cheers
Piers
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I say thanks for the interview. ALL sides of the issue should be presented.
I think Pirzhada was making a relative comparison between Kevin Budds work and what he can do with Audio dvd, or with what Kevin had available on a particular tape. Perhaps Pirzhada has access to a higher generation tape on a particular album that he is referring to.
I don't think he was making anything really earth shattering, since this is what I suspected anyway, by the quality of some of BMG's releases.
He just put it all together, so that it makes sense to everyone.
And Pirzhada made a good point in pointing out that he may have access to a better tapes on a particular area, but Ernst may have access to better tapes in that same area, so neither has the best or longest version.
If they could all work to gether for a piece of the pie we the fans would have it so much better.
I, for one, put historical purpose ahead of quality. I was happy to get "hearts of stone" in crappy quality than not at all.
I think Pirzhada was making a relative comparison between Kevin Budds work and what he can do with Audio dvd, or with what Kevin had available on a particular tape. Perhaps Pirzhada has access to a higher generation tape on a particular album that he is referring to.
I don't think he was making anything really earth shattering, since this is what I suspected anyway, by the quality of some of BMG's releases.
He just put it all together, so that it makes sense to everyone.
And Pirzhada made a good point in pointing out that he may have access to a better tapes on a particular area, but Ernst may have access to better tapes in that same area, so neither has the best or longest version.
If they could all work to gether for a piece of the pie we the fans would have it so much better.
I, for one, put historical purpose ahead of quality. I was happy to get "hearts of stone" in crappy quality than not at all.