Fri May 11, 2007 7:27 am
Daryl wrote:He has really limited himself in what he can do, sort of like an actor who gets pigeon-holed into a certain-type character ...
Fri May 11, 2007 7:39 am
Daryl wrote:That's a load of bull. The only reason you can't compare the two is because Jorgensen doesn't know anything else besides Elvis. And sometimes I wonder if he even knows that subject all that well. Jorgensen should have diversified himself into working on other artists catalog besides Presley. He has really limited himself in what he can do, sort of like an actor who gets pigeon-holed into a certain-type character or a genre of film. Remind you of anybody?
Fri May 11, 2007 7:48 am
Fri May 11, 2007 8:07 am
Uh, no, it is not a load of bull. Do you have any understanding of how the record business operates? Comparing Hip-O Select or Rhino to FTD is like comparing a 747 to a single prop plane. Hip-O select is an arm of Universal, it releases tons of recordings by various Universal artists produced and engineered by various individuals. FTD is an Elvis Presley collector's label which is overseen by an Elvis Presley expert and enthusiast.
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Fri May 11, 2007 11:57 am
Rock Legend wrote: For the record, I think Jorgensen is
doing a tremendous job, and we should all be proud to call
him our own.
Fri May 11, 2007 12:22 pm
PEP wrote:Without Ernst' input I could see that happening....
Fri May 11, 2007 1:22 pm
Daryl wrote: Why doesn't he try to tackle something other than Elvis? Answer that question for me.
Fri May 11, 2007 1:29 pm
With your two most recent, typically hysterical postings, there certainly is a character that comes to mind when we see "Daryl" joining a topic.
Fri May 11, 2007 5:18 pm
The only reason FTD is limited is because of Jorgensen.
Fri May 11, 2007 8:41 pm
Even you Daryl can't say all that he has done was bad....
If he was tied up with other artists, then Ernst wouldn't have the time dedicated to FTD. Therefore there would be less releases, less quality and this would, (once again) cause fans to moan and complain.
Without Ernst' input ...what direction would RCA have taken???
"Elvis Sings For Children & Grown ups 30th Anniversary !!"
would have just been showing up right about now...
Without Ernst' input I could see that happening....
Fri May 11, 2007 8:54 pm
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Fri May 11, 2007 10:22 pm
Daryl wrote: Oh and please refrain from editing my posts for no such reason, as you've done already.
Fri May 11, 2007 10:44 pm
7- Do not mention names or email-adresses of persons when they might be getting problems, no matter who this person is or what these problems are.
5- Do not fight any personal wars on this board.
3- Personal attacks
10- Using a board member identity for causing problems on a thread by example will have the messages deleted and blocked access to this board.
Fri May 11, 2007 11:04 pm
Daryl wrote:Hello PEP,7- Do not mention names or email-adresses of persons when they might be getting problems, no matter who this person is or what these problems are.
Are you suggesting that Rock Legend is getting problems. He had only posted once in this thread and I hadn't seen him post in a while. So what problems are you referring to???
No, what I am suggesting is you are Not allowed to use anyone's name, if they so desire not for it to be brought up, I was asked to do the edit so leave it at that....5- Do not fight any personal wars on this board.
Exactly what personal wars am I fighting? Rock Legend was the one who brought up a previous spat, not I. Personally I think some people take this messageboard way too seriously like it's life or death. I for one don't subscribe to that notion.
This was brought up as a future reference, only3- Personal attacks
I've stated fact after fact after fact, for the most part. If you consider that personal attacks, that's your problem.
No, that's not my problem, again this was used in the context of future reference more so than anything else, but if you read between the lines some members are feeling your going after Ernst just for the sake of, because you feel you have that right, sorry but you have to know when to quit....the point has been made....your opinion has been expressed ...let it go already....10- Using a board member identity for causing problems on a thread by example will have the messages deleted and blocked access to this board.
What problems? I don't seem to have a problem with Doc. comparing me to Charlie Rich's "Everything I Do Is Wrong." Is it that I'm more thick-skinned than others. Doubtful. I don't put too much credence into a messageboard, as if again it were life or death.
Daryl, once again this was used more so for your future reference a friendly reminder...nothing more.....
Fri May 11, 2007 11:24 pm
but if you read between the lines some members are feeling your going after Ernst just for the sake of, because you feel you have that right
Fri May 11, 2007 11:35 pm
You are trying to worm your way out of this discussion by bringing sales figures into the topic (huh?), but that's not what we were discussing.
Fri May 11, 2007 11:48 pm
Daryl wrote:Hello PEP,but if you read between the lines some members are feeling your going after Ernst just for the sake of, because you feel you have that right
No, it's because nobody else is willing to devote the time towards the argument. Why else is it that anytime someone else makes a negative comment about Ernst/FTD/Kevan Budd etc. on this messageboard there are efforts made by "some members" to squelch that opinion. This has been going on now for a few years. Don't think for a minute that all the complaints lodged against me are all valid.
Agreed, I don't feel your 100% wrong, you have brought up some interesting points, but maybe its more how you have presented the points, one after another in the way you have done it, has put some members back's up against the wall.....
It's all in the presentation Daryl.....
Like I have said Ernst is not perfect an I'm sure he would be the first one to come forward to admit this, however if all that can be seen or pointed out is all the mistakes One has done without any Pat's on the back for things a person has done right, that person's ears are not going to listen to You or Anyone.....to beable to learn from their mistakes, if in fact they are mistakes....
Pointing out mistakes can be presented in a way of what you feel should have been the better way to go, without putting someone down, where in the end the idea You or Anyone have come up with, if good enough should entise the majority to end up agreeing with You or Anyone who presents the idea.....
This makes what You or Anyone says, more right than wrong.....then just being right to yourself only...
Meaning anyone who feels this way....about what they say....or do.....
I wouldn't mind hearing from you what direction FTD should go and why
in detail step by step?
You would be limited however because of course you wouldn't have the same access to know what is left in the vaults.....
But I'm guessing you have a pretty good idea....
Now, that I think would be a good debate....and all could learn and have their opinions heard, and who knows maybe FTD or Ernst would listen as well, if the idea or idea's were good enough......
Sat May 12, 2007 12:39 am
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