Sun May 13, 2007 6:08 am
Sun May 13, 2007 6:14 am
GERRY wrote:TJ wrote,My point was that timing did make the difference. By that I mean it was the 25th anniversary and it was released just after a worldwide number one. It was a high profile period for Elvis and the album was given huge amounts of both paid and free promotion as a result
You keep harping on and on about the fans allready having the damn tracks when you should surely know that it was the public and not the remnants of the EP fanbase that made E1 the sales success that it was.
GERRY wrote:I dont think the public gave a **** about it being the 25th anniversary.
There was a buzz around about what Bendeth was doing.
The remix was great and that Nike Add....
Sun May 13, 2007 8:41 am
Sun May 13, 2007 12:49 pm
GERRY wrote:Sorry Per i have been busy.
Get round to it as soon as i can.
Sun May 13, 2007 1:22 pm
thekingisalive wrote:Gerry, just out of curiosity, what do you think of the mainstream CDs Kevan Budd worked on? I’m thinking about:
Elvis at Sun
Elvis Presley
Elvis
Loving You
And what did you think about the FTD CDs Sebastian worked on?
Elvis Is Back!
His Hand in Mine
Something for Everybody
I’m talking about the sound here.
Per
Thu May 17, 2007 11:48 am
Thu May 17, 2007 1:32 pm
David Bendeth wrote:Someone called me about this thread, you guys are truly amazing. I have to admit I love the passion and I love the theories.
Here are some facts, which in a way makes you all right.
The E1 project started as an idea to sell roughly 500-600,000 records worldwide. It was an anniversary record that really took on a life of its own due to multiple things all happening in tandem.
Before all the hype started with the Nike video and the ALLC, there was a man named Bob Jamieson who at the time was the president of RCA.
Bob believed that Elvis was the cornerstone of RCA records. We worked in Canada together and the Elvis catalogue kept BMG in business during the leaner years.
Bob had a great relationship with the estate and a real understanding of true artistry. E1 was an RCA record. It was born out of the US company for what reason I will never know. I was assigned the record by Jack Rovner who gave this to me as some kind of punishment. He was fired a few months after I started this record.
A few people at RCA really beleived in this record, not only from a marketing standpoint, but a creative standpoint.
It was the Elvis estate that really stood behind this record at the beggining. It was important to have them involved. RCA had a deal with them that we would never alter these tapes. I startd this as an experiment. I always knew that it was going to be Elvis, his songs, his voice, his talent that would be the driver on this record. NOT ME.
I was part of a great team of people. It was like a snowball. I was given complete free reign financially to make this record. Bob beleived it was going to be extremely competitive, he spared no expense. He had the estates full support.
Key players in making this record roll were Bob Jamieson. BMG UK office, and Jose at BMG international who left before the record was released.
ALLC was never a hit in the USA, god knows we tried, it stiffed. Jack at the estate also was a huge supporter, he was amazing.
The remix was sensational and the funny thing was that Junkie XL was never supposed to mix the song in the first place. He was a second choice. Between the ALLC mix, the promotion involved with the E1 travelling museum and the posters and billboards the awareness was high. The nike commercial did not hurt.
This was a once in a lifetime situation, like all the stars lining up. Almost inexplicable.
Once the train left the station nothing was going to stop it. The fact that there was mistakes on this record was also some kind of a positive factor in the sense that everyone was talking about Elvis again.
This could not have been a more perfect launch for a record. A new single, a new image, a best of package, a new sound, a marketing budget worldwide and most of all a collection of songs that were undeniable to people from 2-99 years old.
Everyone that worked on this record was commited. Everyone knew this was a once in a lifetime record for the label.
In its first week it sold over 1.2 million worldwide. Over 500,000 of those records scanned in the USA..WITH NO HIT!!!! This was unheard of, It showed the power of the music.
Please do not overthink this. The future of the Elvis catalogue and sound has reverted to where it came from. There are many ways to capitolize on oppurtunities with Elvis again, Its just down to people with imagination, passion and knowledge and of course money.
I have tried to move on as much as I possibly can after this record. I learned so much about music and myself.
I never wanted to only be known as the guy that mixed Elvis. It was an idea I had that I took a lot of flack for. Mostly from you lot.
I am blessed this year as a producer and a mixer with Three gold/Platinum records in a row and I hope to have 4 soon.
None of these records sound like Elvis, but his spirit lives with me as I move through my musical career and treasure the oppurtunity I had to be a part of something we all shared in.
The future of Elvis is in your hearts and in your soul. There will be many generations after you to carry the torch.
Technology and Elvis will ALWAYS work well together, he was an artist with vision and always on the cutting edge.
sorry for Jacking this thread. Food for thought..
David Bendeth
Fri May 18, 2007 9:30 pm
Fri May 18, 2007 10:37 pm
Fri May 18, 2007 10:43 pm
For those who care for facts about what the record buying public wants
Sat May 19, 2007 8:53 am
Daryl wrote:Hello,
David, do you have any idea how well 30 #1 hits has sold to this day. The last RIAA certification was for 4 million a few years back. Also do you have any idea what worldwide sales are at?
Daryl
Sat May 19, 2007 8:59 am
Sat May 19, 2007 9:34 am
David Bendeth wrote:Someone called me about this thread, you guys are truly amazing. I have to admit I love the passion and I love the theories.
Here are some facts, which in a way makes you all right.
The E1 project started as an idea to sell roughly 500-600,000 records worldwide. It was an anniversary record that really took on a life of its own due to multiple things all happening in tandem.
Before all the hype started with the Nike video and the ALLC, there was a man named Bob Jamieson who at the time was the president of RCA.
Bob believed that Elvis was the cornerstone of RCA records. We worked in Canada together and the Elvis catalogue kept BMG in business during the leaner years.
Bob had a great relationship with the estate and a real understanding of true artistry. E1 was an RCA record. It was born out of the US company for what reason I will never know. I was assigned the record by Jack Rovner who gave this to me as some kind of punishment. He was fired a few months after I started this record.
A few people at RCA really beleived in this record, not only from a marketing standpoint, but a creative standpoint.
It was the Elvis estate that really stood behind this record at the beggining. It was important to have them involved. RCA had a deal with them that we would never alter these tapes. I startd this as an experiment. I always knew that it was going to be Elvis, his songs, his voice, his talent that would be the driver on this record. NOT ME.
I was part of a great team of people. It was like a snowball. I was given complete free reign financially to make this record. Bob beleived it was going to be extremely competitive, he spared no expense. He had the estates full support.
Key players in making this record roll were Bob Jamieson. BMG UK office, and Jose at BMG international who left before the record was released.
ALLC was never a hit in the USA, god knows we tried, it stiffed. Jack at the estate also was a huge supporter, he was amazing.
The remix was sensational and the funny thing was that Junkie XL was never supposed to mix the song in the first place. He was a second choice. Between the ALLC mix, the promotion involved with the E1 travelling museum and the posters and billboards the awareness was high. The nike commercial did not hurt.
This was a once in a lifetime situation, like all the stars lining up. Almost inexplicable.
Once the train left the station nothing was going to stop it. The fact that there was mistakes on this record was also some kind of a positive factor in the sense that everyone was talking about Elvis again.
This could not have been a more perfect launch for a record. A new single, a new image, a best of package, a new sound, a marketing budget worldwide and most of all a collection of songs that were undeniable to people from 2-99 years old.
Everyone that worked on this record was commited. Everyone knew this was a once in a lifetime record for the label.
In its first week it sold over 1.2 million worldwide. Over 500,000 of those records scanned in the USA..WITH NO HIT!!!! This was unheard of, It showed the power of the music.
Please do not overthink this. The future of the Elvis catalogue and sound has reverted to where it came from. There are many ways to capitolize on oppurtunities with Elvis again, Its just down to people with imagination, passion and knowledge and of course money.
I have tried to move on as much as I possibly can after this record. I learned so much about music and myself.
I never wanted to only be known as the guy that mixed Elvis. It was an idea I had that I took a lot of flack for. Mostly from you lot.
I am blessed this year as a producer and a mixer with Three gold/Platinum records in a row and I hope to have 4 soon.
None of these records sound like Elvis, but his spirit lives with me as I move through my musical career and treasure the oppurtunity I had to be a part of something we all shared in.
The future of Elvis is in your hearts and in your soul. There will be many generations after you to carry the torch.
Technology and Elvis will ALWAYS work well together, he was an artist with vision and always on the cutting edge.sorry for Jacking this thread. Food for thought..
David Bendeth
Sat May 19, 2007 10:46 am
Daryl wrote:Hello David,
I want to thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I do have a second question for you if you don't mind me asking. It's a bit private that you may or may not want to answer in the open forum of a messageboard. I hope you don't take me asking this question as being insensitive but why exactly were you left go by BMG/RCA? I can't fathom any reason why any major record company would let go the guy who just compiled the biggest selling posthumous Elvis record ever done. What exactly did the powers that be at BMG tell you was the reason?
If you don't wish to answer this question out in open and wish to keep it private you can either PM via this website or if you wish not to go into that much detail, I also understand.
Daryl
Sat May 19, 2007 10:52 pm
Sat May 19, 2007 11:36 pm
Sun May 20, 2007 12:41 am
David Bendeth wrote:Good question and certainly not one that has been asked here before, which of course I always thought was strange.
I started with BMG in 1988 and was there until I think Jan 2004. I was hired in Canada and was transferred to New York in 1995. The main reason was that Bob Jamieson, my boss has made President of RCA and he took me with him.
Bob had a great run a RCA with Dave Matthews, Christine Aguilara and one of my bands Vertical Horizon. He turned the compmay around in a few years and was promoted to a more "suit "job in the Corporate BMG office.
He really did not like it and was later moved back to the Presidency at RCA. That was about the time we made E1.
I do not think BMG really much respect for Bob as they fired him shortly after the success of E1. At that time they merged RCA and Arista together and Clive Davis took over both companies.
Clive is a great record man, BUT he really saw me as a Bob Jamieson guy and not a Clive guy. If you know anything about Clive Davis he really appreciates and demands a lot of loyalty and respect from his employees and has quite a high turnover rate.
I was told there was a head count issue and I was the one to take the bullett in my department. I was also still under contract, it was not the end of the world.
To be honest I feel really lucky. At the time I think I was miserable and worried for about a week. I also knew by that time they had gone behind my back to work with Ray on E2. In some way I was almost relieved at that too, as I did not think the record was a strong as E1 musically or sonically. It was a follow up. I wanted to end on a high note.
So after may years of loyalty I was out on my own, I also knew that the business was changing and that I needed to be on the front end of the curve in making records. American Idol had become the cornerstone of BMG. It really was not my scene. People had really stopped buying CD's, and I saw the infrastructure start to crumble and the amalgamations start to turf out thousands of people. Within a year after I left BMG it was now a joint venture with SONY/BMG.
On the day I was retired from RCA you really have to remember that another 60 people of 112 were also sent home.Whole departments at.RCA records was completely dismantled and the company that Bob had built was gone forever. I was sad months before I was sent home, There was no reason for me to stay. I mean who would want to work with Simon Cowell on AI LOL?
I knew my calling was to make records with young artists. It was a tough climb back to the top of the charts, especially at my age.
A lot of the artists I produce and mix these days would be alien to 99% of this board. I am doing what I really want to do working with the future of the music business.
So there is the story, but remember one thing.
Behind every great story there is a better back story. There have been many instances at many companies where it is not "cool" to have the kind of success I had there. I had signed artists to that label that had sold in total over 20 million records long before E1 was released.
I was a prime target for a reason.
As a side note, there is not one person at the company in the USA today that I know of that had anything to do with the success of E1. And that folks, kinda says it all.
On more more side note, since I have left RCA here is what has happened in the biz.
BMG publishing has been sold, Warner Brothers has been bought by private investment and the stock price is down, EMI and Capitol have merged and are up for sale right now, MCA has closed, Dreamworks has closed, and sales are off about 10% a year on CD'S in a downward trend.
Apple looks poised to run the biz to me. That ipod is pretty nifty.
Sun May 20, 2007 7:11 am
Sun May 20, 2007 7:13 am
Daryl wrote:Hello,
David, I think that if the music industry is ever going to rebound from the funk it's currently situated in, it's going to have to come from the independent smaller labels, not the majors such as Sony/BMG. The major labels have only to look to themselves killing the industry. Before long the only stores that will carry music will also be the majors such as Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. The industry can't be taken seriously when I can go into a FYE store and see a CD on the racks for $18.99 and then turn around and go into say a Wal-Mart and see that same new CD on sale for $9.99. I personally saw this happen with E1. Also you can buy a new DVD release at Wal-Mart for less than the cost of the new CD at FYE. And at the end of the day a movie is going to provide more entertainment value than a CD. That's just the way the market shakes out. The Apple iPod cost eventually be the thing that could possibly level the playing field. I predict that within a few years you will be able to copy movies from your DVD onto your iPod for viewing at any time.
Oh, and yes indeed the iPod is a nifty little thing. (I have a 80 GB video playback and a 40 GB). That's a shitload of music.
Daryl
Sun May 20, 2007 8:44 am
David Bendeth wrote:On more more side note, since I have left RCA here is what has happened in the biz. BMG publishing has been sold, Warner Brothers has been bought by private investment and the stock price is down, EMI and Capitol have merged and are up for sale right now, MCA has closed, Dreamworks has closed, and sales are off about 10% a year on CD'S in a downward trend.
Sun May 20, 2007 9:04 am
Sun May 20, 2007 2:15 pm
Sun May 20, 2007 2:19 pm
Daryl wrote:Hello,
David, do you have any idea how well 30 #1 hits has sold to this day. The last RIAA certification was for 4 million a few years back. Also do you have any idea what worldwide sales are at?
Daryl
Sun May 20, 2007 6:42 pm
Sun May 20, 2007 7:19 pm
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