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Sure PEP, whatever you say!PEP wrote:R.R.D wrote:Hi PEP
I suppose this is the afternoon show
AS the different clips that I have seen are all from the afternoon show
You write that its the complete performance of Elvis
and that its over 15 min ,but the afternoon show is almost 30 min in lengt
Or is this the complete performances of 4 or 5 songs
do you now any thing about this?
Sorry, I have No further information
PEP
R.R.D wrote:Hi PEP
I suppose this is the afternoon show
AS the different clips that I have seen are all from the afternoon show
You write that its the complete performance of Elvis
and that its over 15 min ,but the afternoon show is almost 30 min in lengt
Or is this the complete performances of 4 or 5 songs
do you now any thing about this
either way this is the most fantastic news WAUV
I look forward to a on tour and a TTWII dvd box (if where that lucky)
but to see this tupelo footage with original sound will just be out of this world ,even just for a couble of complete songs
This is the Biggets Elvis news in many many years
Doc ,Tallhair where are you now it really starts to get exiting
Elvis in 1956 in his home town pulling all the stops and a hot band behind him ,with thousand of teenagers screaming there lungs out at his feet
can it get anybetter
My guess is in theory you would be correct, howeverJamesVRoy wrote:Who is the copyright owner, EPE for his image, or RCA/BMGPEP wrote:This unreleased Elvis footage in Concert from Tupelo 1956,
contains the complete performance of Elvis with the
original sound. (officially licenced from the copyright owner)
for the music?
Fantasticnigel wrote:Hi everyone
EIN has just added some of the biggest news in years -
Sources close to the UK based Memphis Recording Service label tell us that Joseph Pirzada is currently finishing off his latest project that will bring for the first time ever, unreleased Elvis footage in Concert from the 1950’ with original sound. To date, the only live 50’s performance footage with sound we know are from the TV shows. The release will also include an unreleased interview with Elvis from 1957 and live audio music. More details to follow…
Nigel
http://www.elvisinfonet.com
. And so called long time inner circle big experts (in their own view, I don't give names.. ) who have always spread negative hopes too us that nothing new exists in the archives. Well history always tells us that stuff exists even from the 50s. The only way to have new stuff are paying the money...
PEP wrote: My guess is in theory you would be correct, however
I just wonder if in this case there are some loop holes...
For example regarding the audio, in this case would
it fall under the public domain act in Europe?
An for the sake of arguement would that be the same case
for the his image....
Anyone know?
PEP
Dan_T wrote:
Looking at all the very cheaply made Elvis DVD's here in the UK,I don't think EPE would have a say in this project,if it's a strictly European release that is,as I'm sure EPE wouldn't have allowed some of the crap that's out there to hit the shelves if they had control over that material here in the .UK.
Kevin I agree with everything you said.General Sarnoff wrote:Dan_T wrote:
Looking at all the very cheaply made Elvis DVD's here in the UK,I don't think EPE would have a say in this project,if it's a strictly European release that is,as I'm sure EPE wouldn't have allowed some of the crap that's out there to hit the shelves if they had control over that material here in the .UK.
I'm pretty certain that I wouldn't want to be the person that decides to challenge them by issuing something like this... because frankly, they just might decide to sue for damages anyway. And once a lawsuit gets filed, it forces the defendant to hire attorneys to defend themselves-- and believe me, I think I can guess which side of the argument can most afford to drag out litigation, if they choose to.
-Kevin
Thanks for the info, Thekingstillrocks.Thekingstillrocks wrote:It has to be the amateur filmed footage, one which I missed out on last year.
I tried to buy it but it was sold extremely fast.
It has been part of a collection from an Elvis fan in Lubbock, TX since the early days.
He had a large collection of 1950 footage, with some very rare performances.
His first filming was at the Fair Park Auditorium, hometown Lubbock. 2 performances and Tupelo
The 56 footage : Forth Worth, Shreveport, Richmond Norfolk, Lubbock, El Paso, New Orleans, Tupelo, San Antonio.
1957: Tupelo, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles
Also footage Elvis eating somewhere with reporters and driving off etc.
Some have sound which is very rare in those days.
His grandson did put it on eBay last year and they were approached within 10 minutes.
He didn’t reveal the amount but it was a great deal as he said it.
He mentioned that the buyer said that he was thinking of using a part ot it for a DVD.
There are not too much people with that much money and releasing possibilities.
I tried to buy some the collection, asked what is was but he said that he had a buyer already, it it wouldn’t come through he would get back to me.
He had also a lot of photos and souvenirs and the ticket stubs.
I think that some of this will be on the release…. Anyway a very nice idea indeed a tour DVD from the 50’s well in this way I get it much cheaper.
Let’s hope I’m right!
Great info, judging by your post I assume the buyer was Mr. Pirzada himself. At least if it was him, it will eventually be shared with the public, rather then having a private collector lock it up for another 50 years!Thekingstillrocks wrote:It has to be the amateur filmed footage, one which I missed out on last year.
I tried to buy it but it was sold extremely fast.
It has been part of a collection from an Elvis fan in Lubbock, TX since the early days.
He had a large collection of 1950 footage, with some very rare performances.
His first filming was at the Fair Park Auditorium, hometown Lubbock. 2 performances and Tupelo
The 56 footage : Forth Worth, Shreveport, Richmond Norfolk, Lubbock, El Paso, New Orleans, Tupelo, San Antonio.
1957: Tupelo, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles
Also footage Elvis eating somewhere with reporters and driving off etc.
Some have sound which is very rare in those days.
His grandson did put it on eBay last year and they were approached within 10 minutes.
He didn’t reveal the amount but it was a great deal as he said it.
He mentioned that the buyer said that he was thinking of using a part ot it for a DVD.
There are not too much people with that much money and releasing possibilities.
I tried to buy some the collection, asked what is was but he said that he had a buyer already, it it wouldn’t come through he would get back to me.
He had also a lot of photos and souvenirs and the ticket stubs.
I think that some of this will be on the release…. Anyway a very nice idea indeed a tour DVD from the 50’s well in this way I get it much cheaper.
Let’s hope I’m right!
Amen, Brother Joe.Joe Car wrote:Great info, judging by your post I assume the buyer was Mr. Pirzada himself. At least if it was him, it will eventually be shared with the public, rather then having a private collector lock it up for another 50 years!Thekingstillrocks wrote:It has to be the amateur filmed footage, one which I missed out on last year.
I tried to buy it but it was sold extremely fast.
It has been part of a collection from an Elvis fan in Lubbock, TX since the early days.
He had a large collection of 1950 footage, with some very rare performances.
His first filming was at the Fair Park Auditorium, hometown Lubbock. 2 performances and Tupelo
The 56 footage : Forth Worth, Shreveport, Richmond Norfolk, Lubbock, El Paso, New Orleans, Tupelo, San Antonio.
1957: Tupelo, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles
Also footage Elvis eating somewhere with reporters and driving off etc.
Some have sound which is very rare in those days.
His grandson did put it on eBay last year and they were approached within 10 minutes.
He didn’t reveal the amount but it was a great deal as he said it.
He mentioned that the buyer said that he was thinking of using a part ot it for a DVD.
There are not too much people with that much money and releasing possibilities.
I tried to buy some the collection, asked what is was but he said that he had a buyer already, it it wouldn’t come through he would get back to me.
He had also a lot of photos and souvenirs and the ticket stubs.
I think that some of this will be on the release…. Anyway a very nice idea indeed a tour DVD from the 50’s well in this way I get it much cheaper.
Let’s hope I’m right!
Lew Nyack wrote:From elvis.com.au (bold text my doing):
Joseph Pirzada is working on a new DVD-Video/Audio and Book release. The DVD will contain nearly 25 minutes of newly found concert footage from the 50's with complete filmed song performances (more than 1) with sound...
Joseph is the owner so there are no legal issues what so ever and the sound thankfully, is already PD.
Kevin, not trying to be nosy, just wondering how long it takes to get projects like this off the ground, such as your outstanding Sullivan DVD!General Sarnoff wrote:Lew Nyack wrote:From elvis.com.au (bold text my doing):
Joseph Pirzada is working on a new DVD-Video/Audio and Book release. The DVD will contain nearly 25 minutes of newly found concert footage from the 50's with complete filmed song performances (more than 1) with sound...
Joseph is the owner so there are no legal issues what so ever and the sound thankfully, is already PD.
I'm not generally psychic, but I foresee someone getting a rude lesson in music publishing copyright, and possibly synchronization rights and performance contract law, in the future...
But that's what happens when ownership of physical elements is confused with ownership of underlying intellectual property rights, which are separate and distinct entities.
As was pointed out earlier, unless Elvis' performance consists of Gregorian chants or medieval minstrel ballads, at a minimum, the music publishing still needs to be cleared. And it's within the rights of the music publishers to forbid the use of their songs in a project for **any** reason-- say, for example, if they felt that the performers and/or the record label involved were not being properly compensated.
Just some food for thought.
-Kevin
Well, to be rather exact, my contribution dealt with what was onscreen-- the actual behind-the-scenes heavy lifting was done by Andrew Solt, Greg Vines and their crack squadron of production professionals!Joe Car wrote:
Kevin, not trying to be nosy, just wondering how long it takes to get projects like this off the ground, such as your outstanding Sullivan DVD!
